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Old 11-14-2013, 12:04 PM   #91
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I'm starting to feel claustrophobic with this show. I need to see what's happening in the rest of the world.
That's the beauty of the apocalypse--you have no idea what's going on in the rest of the world. Unless you start seeing planes fly over or get radio broadcasts, you're lost. Bad in some ways, good in others. At least there's no government telling you what you can and can't do. No Obamacare.

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Sadly, redemption in a show like this is usually fatal. See: Andrea.
Can someone remind me what happened to Andrea? I forgot all about her.

I wonder what the average life span is for a woman in a car surviving the zombie apocalypse on her own? Maybe she should get some zombie companions like Michonne had--that seemed to work. I can't see Carol lasting on her own very long.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:11 PM   #92
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Can someone remind me what happened to Andrea? I forgot all about her.
In last season's finale, the Governor handcuffed her to a chair and then locked her in a room with someone who was dying. When the dying guy turned into a zombie, he came and ate Andrea before she could get herself free.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:12 PM   #93
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That is just symantics. You are just calling it something different than exile. Either way she was told to not come back and she complied (so far).

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Old 11-14-2013, 12:15 PM   #94
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In last season's finale, the Governor handcuffed her to a chair and then locked her in a room with someone who was dying. When the dying guy turned into a zombie, he came and ate Andrea before she could get herself free.
well, to add a little detail: he bit her a little before she killed him. Then when the gang came in to save her, all they could do is give her a gun so she would kill herself. They locked the door and then we all heard the gunshot.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:20 PM   #95
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In last season's finale, the Governor handcuffed her to a chair and then locked her in a room with someone who was dying. When the dying guy turned into a zombie, he came and ate Andrea before she could get herself free.
Andrea was bitten by the Zombie. She shot herself, one would assume, in the head.
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:46 PM   #96
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That is just symantics. You are just calling it something different than exile. Either way she was told to not come back and she complied (so far).
The word is semantics.

Anyway, the part quoted above is wrong. Rick did not tell Carol "to not come back".
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:47 PM   #97
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Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true.
Of course, it is true because it is a statement of fact.
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:49 PM   #98
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He locked her out of the car and said he won't allow her there with his family. It's pretty clear to everyone but you.
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:50 PM   #99
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I'm reminded of something my 10 year old told my 7 year old: If I say you win, will you shut up?
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:52 PM   #100
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Which, judging from the reactions we've seen so far, she would lose.

When Rick said he didn't trust her around his family, he was saying he would actively campaign against her at such a council meeting. Keeping her from staying, not keeping her from returning. Even if Carol thinks she could convince the council otherwise, she shouldn't think so with Rick against her. If she somehow managed to win a council vote, that would create a "us or her" situation. Rick would leave taking his family and followers, splitting the group significantly.
I agree. I think Carol probably realized this as well.
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:53 PM   #101
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He locked her out of the car and said he won't allow her there with his family.
False.

You need to listen again. Or re-read my posts about it. He did not say he "won't allow her there with his family".
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:55 PM   #102
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:12 PM   #103
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He locked her out of the car and said he won't allow her there with his family. It's pretty clear to everyone but you.
Surely you realize he'll never budge? Just give it up, and hope some day he and Ereth don't end up on opposite sides of an argument.
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:30 PM   #104
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I'm reminded of something my 10 year old told my 7 year old: If I say you win, will you shut up?
Agreed. I had actually forgotten who/why I had him on ignore so recently took him off. Now I remember why. Problem solved (again).

I love a healthy debate, but he/she has proven themselves totally unwilling to accept anybody's ideas other than their's (unless it agrees with their's).
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:31 PM   #105
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I'm reminded of something my 10 year old told my 7 year old: If I say you win, will you shut up?
I'm going to guess the answer is no. He's one of those...
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:54 PM   #106
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well, to add a little detail: he bit her a little before she killed him. Then when the gang came in to save her, all they could do is give her a gun so she would kill herself. They locked the door and then we all heard the gunshot.
To add more detail: that was after she spent several minutes reminiscing instead of using the instrument the soon-to-be-walker provided her to free herself. She was almost free when she got bit so if she had concentrated on freeing herself, she would have survived.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:02 PM   #107
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To add more detail: that was after she spent several minutes reminiscing instead of using the instrument the soon-to-be-walker provided her to free herself. She was almost free when she got bit so if she had concentrated on freeing herself, she would have survived.
That was only because the writers wanted to create dramatic tension. Andrea was dying in that episode no matter what. That the writers made her seem stupid at the same time was probably unintentional.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:02 PM   #108
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I love a healthy debate, but he/she has proven themselves totally unwilling to accept anybody's ideas other than their's (unless it agrees with their's).
Let's summarize.

I mentioned several facts from the conversation that Rick and Carol had, then explained why what happened was not Rick ordering Carol's exile.

pmyers and Zevida responded with incorrect statements about what was actually said, and then when I pointed out the factually incorrect statements, pmyers responds by saying that I cannot accept the ideas of others and he is therefore ignoring me.

Well done, pmyers!
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:03 PM   #109
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If only that's all it were.
Enlighten me.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:26 PM   #111
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I'm starting to feel claustrophobic with this show. I need to see what's happening in the rest of the world.
I hear ya. My favorite episodes are were we get to see what else is going on in the world, especially when they come across any survivors. I love hearing their stories of survival and also what they call "walkers".
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:46 PM   #112
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Enlighten me.
There's no point- everyone is sick of hearing about it.
Please stop already.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:20 PM   #113
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I love hearing their stories of survival and also what they call "walkers".
A question just occurred to me.... Is there a reason nobody ever calls them zombies on the show? Is that term copyrighted by someone? Just curious.
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A question just occurred to me.... Is there a reason nobody ever calls them zombies on the show? Is that term copyrighted by someone? Just curious.
Per the show creator: in this "world" the concept of a Zombie, has never existed. They have no prior knowlege of Zombies to go by.
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Please stop already.
I had stopped. I summarized the situation and was planning to be done with the debate. Then DevdogAZ and you posted about it.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:13 PM   #116
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Agreed. I had actually forgotten who/why I had him on ignore so recently took him off. Now I remember why. Problem solved (again).

I love a healthy debate, but he/she has proven themselves totally unwilling to accept anybody's ideas other than their's (unless it agrees with their's).
Ha...that dude's been on my IL for a loooong time...I certainly don't miss him
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:28 PM   #117
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To add more detail: that was after she spent several minutes reminiscing instead of using the instrument the soon-to-be-walker provided her to free herself. She was almost free when she got bit so if she had concentrated on freeing herself, she would have survived.
I was completely drawing a blank on this until this post--now I remember how she stupidly messed around instead of getting on with it. Thanks for the reminders.
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:28 PM   #118
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Agreed. I had actually forgotten who/why I had him on ignore so recently took him off. Now I remember why. Problem solved (again).

I love a healthy debate, but he/she has proven themselves totally unwilling to accept anybody's ideas other than their's (unless it agrees with their's).
That's weird, I did the same thing as you. Maybe I thought I was missing a valid debate. He's back on the ignore list.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:32 AM   #119
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I was completely drawing a blank on this until this post--now I remember how she stupidly messed around instead of getting on with it. Thanks for the reminders.
And she was stupidly messing around with perfectly manicured feet!
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