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Old 11-10-2013, 09:42 PM   #1
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The Walking Dead S04E05: "Internment" 11.10.13

Intense episode, No?

Really tired of Lizzy. I thought she had a plan taunting the Walker. I was wrong.

Carl was The Man.

Michonne needs to keep smiling.

The Governor - what will he do now? Maybe Carol will come back and get him.
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Old 11-10-2013, 11:21 PM   #2
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Favorite scene was Rick and Carl mowing the walkers down.

Why didn't they do that before?
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:12 AM   #3
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Favorite scene was Rick and Carl mowing the walkers down.

Why didn't they do that before?
The noise attracts more walkers and limited ammo, so guns are pretty much only used as necessary.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:26 AM   #4
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I'm tired of sick people. Hopefully that's over and done with now.

And that fence. Why didn't they just park some cars against the fence in the weak spots? They could line the inside of the fence with cars and it would hold forever.

Still, loving the show. I predict Carol will rescue the group from the governor somewhere down the line
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so are we supposed to now think that the Guv was climbing the fence (then climbing back out) and feeding mice to the Walkers so they would all congregate in one spot on the fence and break it?
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^^ I didn't get that at all. I thought he was simply spying on the prison.
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I'm tired of sick people. Hopefully that's over and done with now.

And that fence. Why didn't they just park some cars against the fence in the weak spots? They could line the inside of the fence with cars and it would hold forever.

Still, loving the show. I predict Carol will rescue the group from the governor somewhere down the line
Moving cars against the fence would take away from Rick's gardening time.

Or at least they could have random noise points around the fence to spread out the walkers.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:55 AM   #8
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^^ I didn't get that at all. I thought he was simply spying on the prison.
well, someone has been feeding them mice. Walkers have also been gathering in one spot, and one spot only, for no apparent reason (well, other than 'this is where you can get mice' reason), weakening the fence...So I was just wondering if we will eventually find out that the Guv was responsible...

which would make it the most roundabout diabolical plan ever!
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The noise attracts more walkers and limited ammo, so guns are pretty much only used as necessary.
Didn't they show an enormous dumpster full of ammo in this ep? Right beside the one full of guns?
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I thought it was a great episode but my first thought, just like when the sickness first occurred is "Why don't they keep those cells closed?". They showed Hershel closing some cells yet somehow all the dead still managed to get out.
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The noise attracts more walkers and limited ammo, so guns are pretty much only used as necessary.
Maybe so, but it seems like it would have been smart to use the guns and to get rid of the horde BEFORE it became so critical that they knocked the fence down and compromised the prison.

I wonder if the Gov is somehow leading those 7500 walkers that swamped Daryl over towards the prison.
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:57 AM   #12
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Didn't they show an enormous dumpster full of ammo in this ep? Right beside the one full of guns?
I believe those were large laundry bins, but yes they were filled with guns and ammo.
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:57 AM   #13
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Didn't they show an enormous dumpster full of ammo in this ep? Right beside the one full of guns?
Yep- all uncovered out in the open where all the humidity and pouring down rain in the world can get them.

Lizzie playing footsie in Glenn's bloody phlegm-goo just cemented the fact that she is one strange ranger. And that one tiny little "cough" is still sounding fake IMO, especially when all the other affected folks are dropping like flies.

And haha, but Rick's so afraid of telling Darryl about Carol.
As he should be.

LOVED Rick and Carl teaming up- he gained a new respect for his son there.
As he should- Carl is my fav and this ep made me very happy.

Herschel was quite the effective walker tosser there, too.
Mall Santa gone mad indeed

I am totally bored by the Governor and hope that wraps up quickly, but I know my hope is in vain.
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Yep- all uncovered out in the open where all the humidity and pouring down rain in the world can get them.
Ha! I commented to my wife that they didn't seem concerned about their guns and ammo getting rained on
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Walkers have also been gathering in one spot, and one spot only, for no apparent reason (well, other than 'this is where you can get mice' reason), weakening the fence...
I shouldn't try to apply logic to a zombie movie, but...
The way the walkers pushed through the fence seemed too organized. That many bodies leaning on it or crowding towards it wasn't enough. It took some pushing. Once they got through, they turned into slow shamblers again, easily mowed down.

Anyway, after finishing that group off it seemed like Rick and Carl just left, paying no special attention to the big hole in the fence.

During the bright and sunny morning after scene, when Herschel was getting in the jeep with Michone, I kept expecting a final surprise (like the end of a slasher movie) -- one presumed-dead walker getting Herschel.
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Anyway, after finishing that group off it seemed like Rick and Carl just left, paying no special attention to the big hole in the fence.
Holes in TWO fences!
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I shouldn't try to apply logic to a zombie movie, but...
The way the walkers pushed through the fence seemed too organized. That many bodies leaning on it or crowding towards it wasn't enough. It took some pushing. Once they got through, they turned into slow shamblers again, easily mowed down.
Although the pushing could have been simple crowd dynamics, the kind that gets normal people killed...when people at the back of a crowd move forward, crushing the people in the front of the crowd.
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Didn't they show an enormous dumpster full of ammo in this ep? Right beside the one full of guns?
That's what it looked like, but it it's not an unlimited supply and as far as anyone knows, they'll have to live in the zombie apocalypse for a long long time. There is no running to the store to buy more as needed. You make what you have last as long as you can.
Since the early episodes of the series, bullets have been, for the most part, only used as necessary.
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Maybe so, but it seems like it would have been smart to use the guns and to get rid of the horde BEFORE it became so critical that they knocked the fence down and compromised the prison.
Yes, it might seem like that.
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... During the bright and sunny morning after scene, when Herschel was getting in the jeep with Michone, I kept expecting a final surprise (like the end of a slasher movie) -- one presumed-dead walker getting Herschel.
If that happened, then his character would be Herschel Walker.
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If that happened, then his character would be Herschel Walker.


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I was disappointed that neither Herschel, nor Maggie seemed even remotely upset about losing someone who has been with them since almost the beginning. Carol is one of the few remaining originals and her character deserved more acknowledgement. Which does suggest IMO that she will be back. Or just lazy writing. I'm hoping the former!
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Well, duh she's going to be back!

As for their lack of being upset, I think the point the writers are trying to make (and not doing a very good job) is that Carol murdered two of their own. By Carol's standards, Glenn, Herschel, Creepy Child, and everybody else in the sick ward would now be dead. Because that's what we do with sick people when we're Carol.

Carol really has turned into something of a monster. The mystery, given that the writers have clearly set her up for that, is that everybody isn't more upset with what she did.
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I was disappointed that neither Herschel, nor Maggie seemed even remotely upset about losing someone who has been with them since almost the beginning. Carol is one of the few remaining originals and her character deserved more acknowledgement.
Neither Herschel nor Maggie were originals.

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Favorite scene was Rick and Carl mowing the walkers down.

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The noise attracts more walkers and limited ammo, so guns are pretty much only used as necessary.
As long as the walkers are on the outside of the fence, there's no reason to waste all of your ammo shooting at them. As others have said, ammo has to be a somewhat scarce resource at this point.

But really, they should have done a better job of shoring up the fence. And they should have been able to spread out the herd somewhat using noise and other distractions, to where they could take them out more readily. They let the horde build up far too much.
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I am totally bored by the Governor and hope that wraps up quickly, but I know my hope is in vain.
I was totally bored by the governor last season and wasn't happy he is being brought back so soon -

On an did anybody else see that? moment
- anyone else notice that in the "previously on" footage they showed Carol dragging the body out -
they showed that moment before after she turned the corner without revealing who was doing the dragging.
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As long as the walkers are on the outside of the fence, there's no reason to waste all of your ammo shooting at them. As others have said, ammo has to be a somewhat scarce resource at this point
I would think that they could have looted more ammo from Woodbury than they could ever need.
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I would think that they could have looted more ammo from Woodbury than they could ever need.
Good point. They had a lot of supplies there. I'd think they'd have antibiotics and such as well. They even had a female doctor that must've gotten killed since I've not seen her.

Regarding Carol - I find her fascinating and agree that she has become a monster. I'm glad they added this to her otherwise boring (but endearing) character. I'm interested in how she and Daryl will play out. I think he was affected by the empathy she once showed him which, given his upbringing, must have been refreshing.
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I would imagine that if Woodbury had ammo or any other supplies they could take, they most certainly would have taken it.
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Yeah, the guns and ammo out in the open seemed like a real weird storage situation, and as we've said in other episode threads, I don't know why they haven't simply circled the wagons around the perimeter, driving dragging or otherwise parking vehicles around the fence and setting up a perimeter system like the one used at Woodbury.
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