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Old 11-06-2013, 10:33 PM   #1
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We've begun updating TiVo Stream for out-of-home streaming

Hi TiVo Stream owners!

We have begun releasing the out-of-home feature to TiVo Stream boxes. An initial group of boxes were authorized for the update today.

If you are anxious to see if your TiVo Stream was one of them, then WHILE CONNECTED TO YOUR HOME NETWORK you'll need to:

- start the TiVo iOS app on your iPhone or iPad
- go into Settings > Streaming System Information
- select "Make Service Call" (it will turn gray)
- wait until the "Make Service Call" is black again
- select "Restart streaming device" and wait awhile for the restart to complete
- go to Settings > Streaming Setup

*IF* your box was in the first group to be authorized for the update, then the "Set Up Streaming?" screen will have a checkbox for "Set up out-of-home streaming". Check that box, and complete setup.

NOTE: You will only be able to OOH stream from retail TiVo Premiere or Roamio DVRs running 20.3.7.1a software or later.

If your TiVo Stream was not in this first batch, it should be updated within a couple of weeks.

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Old 11-06-2013, 11:09 PM   #2
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I just saw this and opened the app on my iPad and it automatically came up and asked if I wanted to enable out of home streaming, so it looks like my Stream was enabled.

But, I do not see this:
- Settings > Streaming System Information

Only see this:
- Settings > System Information
and no option to "Make Service Call"

My SW version is: 19.1.2a-01-6

Can anyone confirm if this is the needed version?

I do have 20.3.7.1a on the Premier.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:14 PM   #3
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:11 AM   #4
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My SW version is: 19.1.2a-01-6

Can anyone confirm if this is the needed version?
That looks like an older version. On Roamio it is:
Software Version: 19.1.3b-USB-6

You don't have to go through iOS app to get to the web page either, just use:
http://<StreamIP>:49152/sysinfo
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:57 AM   #5
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The new Stream update is 19.1.3b-01-6
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:28 AM   #6
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If your TiVo Stream was not in this first batch, it should be updated within a couple of weeks.

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Old 11-07-2013, 05:38 AM   #7
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Weeks?????
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:29 AM   #8
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Get it to work with Android and I will buy it otherwise no thanks.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:31 AM   #9
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Awesome for apple people, the worldwide market majority share of tablets and phones belongs to android, not apple though. All of my devices are at least jelly bean 4.2.2. I would love to want a tivo stream, yet it's currently a waste of money.

When can I expect to really want a stream?
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:48 AM   #10
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Android share blah blah blah. I have iOS devices, but that didn't help me get picked for a Stream update. Boo! I'm gettin a cable DVR and Windows phone!

(This rant was in no way supported by Microsoft or any Cable company or Cable company supplier.)
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:05 AM   #11
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Pointing to WW market share is immaterial, that has been flogged to death in the other thread. Android numbers are larger, but not all android devices are (or will be) capable of streaming.

You need to look at share in countries where Tivo is sold and look at the capabilities of the devices. This tells a different story.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:05 AM   #12
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When they say "within weeks" I am sure she means that the staged roll-out will take a couple of weeks to complete.

You could get it tomorrow, or you could get it by the end of the Month.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:23 AM   #13
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The new Stream update is 19.1.3b-01-6
Got it last night too.

Build Date is Oct 1, 2013 (old one was June)

I set it up from home and tested it at work this morning.
All seems to work well.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:44 AM   #14
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Awesome for apple people, the worldwide market majority share of tablets and phones belongs to android, not apple though. All of my devices are at least jelly bean 4.2.2. I would love to want a tivo stream, yet it's currently a waste of money.

When can I expect to really want a stream?
I am looking into Sling box but is much more expensive and you need to purchase an app for each device.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:02 AM   #15
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Awesome for apple people, the worldwide market majority share of tablets and phones belongs to android, not apple though. All of my devices are at least jelly bean 4.2.2. I would love to want a tivo stream, yet it's currently a waste of money.

When can I expect to really want a stream?
Latest rumor is Q1 2014 for Android support.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:09 PM   #16
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[RANT ON]Why does every stream thread turn into an android discussion? There are threads for that discussion elsewhere.[/RANT ON]

Back on Track,

Will there be a priority list for this update at some point?
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:22 PM   #17
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I don't seem to be in the first group, but thanks for letting us know how to check, Margret. I'll keep looking for it over the next few weeks.
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Will there be a priority list for this update at some point?
I think she said stream does not get a priority list.
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:48 PM   #19
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My stream looks to be updated with 19.1.3b-01-6, will need to check it out when I get home tonight.
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I wonder if it was based on purchase date? I bought my stream as part of that initial "contest" offer. I didn't actually "win" the contest but someone on here did and posted a copy of the email so I called in an lied and it worked. So mine was one of the first 600 ever made.
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I wonder if it was based on purchase date? I bought my stream as part of that initial "contest" offer. I didn't actually "win" the contest but someone on here did and posted a copy of the email so I called in an lied and it worked. So mine was one of the first 600 ever made.
could also be by serial number, mine was purchased day one at best buy.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:01 PM   #22
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This will be over wi-do only, correct? When will steaming over cellular be out?
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This will be over wi-do only, correct? When will steaming over cellular be out?
next year ( maybe q1 )
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Pointing to WW market share is immaterial, that has been flogged to death in the other thread. Android numbers are larger, but not all android devices are (or will be) capable of streaming.

You need to look at share in countries where Tivo is sold and look at the capabilities of the devices. This tells a different story.
With the new 4.4 KitKat having been designed for legacy devices still running gingerbread and as little ram as 512M and soon rolling out world wide (yes some devices using TI dsp chips will be left behind) it is your argument that is without merit.

Implementing the age old concept of paged memory in legacy devices with limited ram may be slow but like the days of DOS/EEMS micro processors can extend their life and run more complex software.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:42 PM   #25
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I think his point is that if you look at the numbers in the context of devices deployed in the US (only place the TiVo Stream works), that are running the proper OS (4.2+) and actually have hardware capable of playing video they don't favor Android quite as much as they might seem. But in any case TiVo is working on the Android version. I'm sure they'll release it as soon as it's ready. No amount of complaining is going to speed it up.
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I am not defending the lack of andriod support (I have both platforms), only trying to explain that numbers can be deceiving. Andriod numbers include a large number of phone devices in developing nations that do not have the capability to render the video nor access to the device.

I was in Europe last week, in Barcelona there seemed to be more andriod than iOS (yes, I was seriously watching this for an unrelated purpose) but when I landed back in the US things were overwhelmingly iOS. Not scientific, but it illustrates my point.
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I was not in the first wave. Which stinks because I'm going away this weekend and this feature would have been great to have.
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I was not in the first wave. Which stinks because I'm going away this weekend and this feature would have been great to have.
Same here.
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Android fanboys go away

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Awesome for apple people, the worldwide market majority share of tablets and phones belongs to android, not apple though. All of my devices are at least jelly bean 4.2.2. I would love to want a tivo stream, yet it's currently a waste of money.

When can I expect to really want a stream?
TiVo treats Android the same as Google does. By first releasing on iOS and then at a later date for Android.

Android fanboys upset after Google’s Hangouts update hit iOS first – By Christian Zibreg, Oct 22, 2013

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/10...hit-ios-first/
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:29 AM   #30
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that are running the proper OS (4.2+) and actually have hardware capable of playing video they don't favor Android quite as much as they might seem.
SlingPlayer/Slingbox seem to stream video just fine to a 3+ year-old Droid X running 2.2.

I'm sure TiVo's engineers are as smart as Sling's.
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