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Old 10-29-2013, 11:44 AM   #571
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:00 PM   #572
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #573
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:02 PM   #574
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:08 PM   #575
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... Walt wasn't a hero at the end, he was the same he had been throughout, an anti-hero. Big difference. The finale was the perfect completion to both the story arc and the character arc, because Walt was the story - who he was originally, who he became and why and how it affected everyone around him, and how, in the end, he somewhat came back to himself, or at least tried as best he knew how.

After being diagnosed with cancer, as wrong-headed as his solution may have been, Walt started out with a noble intention - to protect his family after he was gone. Unfortunately he chose to do so by the most despicable means - manufacturing one of the most horribly destructive drugs out there. That he would choose to do something so abhorrent with seemingly little moral or ethical regard for the destruction he would cause to the users of his product demonstrates a serious lack of empathy, the hallmark of a pyschopath. Walt very quickly lost his grasp on that original intent because of ego and greed, and his selfish megalomania completely took over his life. He became a monster. And by doing so he destroyed countless lives, including his own and those of everyone he loved.

Walt admitted his selfishness to Skyler in the end, finally, because he had been forced to face what he'd done and what he'd become after he'd been brought to the depths - Hank's murder, Jesse's "betrayal", his failure to provide for his family, his wife and son's physically and emotionally violent rejection, being a fugitive - it all brought it home. Alone in that cabin in the frigid wilderness, with only his beloved and useless barrel of cash to keep him company, dying, he was the epitome of failure.

Walt's final acts were not heroic, actually they weren't even unselfish. I think he pretty much admits that at one point. Throughout the entire series a common theme - a catalyst for much of what happens, in fact - is that Walter White, who has been a milquetoast his entire life, has to prove himself smarter and better than everyone else - the oh-so-righteous cops, the big bully bad guys, his own family; it's almost like a game and he has to - has to - WIN. At any cost. So, yes, while his actions produce some really desirable results in the end, and, yes, while part of him is truly motivated by his love for his family, he is ultimately driven by his same old selfishness and ego. The only difference is this time everything he does is justified from a moral, if not legal, pov. This is made clear when Saul explains to him how everything would work out for his family if he simply turned himself in. Walt considers this but rejects it, even though this is before he knows that his family has been threatened. Instead he concocts a plan to get over on everybody. And he does.

In the end, at death, Walt is smiling not just because he's back in his cherished lab, as some have suggested, but because he is back in his lab because HE WON.
Great analysis of Walt's character!
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:15 PM   #576
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Bryan Cranston is fabulous.
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...or...maybe he stole Marie's purple ****....
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:18 PM   #577
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Walt wasn't a hero at the end, he was the same he had been throughout, an anti-hero. Big difference.
I disagree. Walt was an anti-hero up until the final episode when he became the righteous one, killing the bad guys and saving the day and dying a heroic death by saving his partner. That was his perfect ending.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:57 PM   #578
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Is that the same pink bear as the one from the airplane?
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:06 PM   #579
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Eh, despite his 11th hour "redemption", he's still an anti-hero. He caused so much death and destruction of so many lives... just because he killed the "bad guys" at the end and saved Jesse (whom he was determined to kill moments earlier), does not make him a hero in the end.
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:13 PM   #580
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Is that the same pink bear as the one from the airplane?
No...it's the purple one from the airplane....




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Old 10-29-2013, 01:18 PM   #581
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:10 PM   #582
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Eh, despite his 11th hour "redemption", he's still an anti-hero. He caused so much death and destruction of so many lives... just because he killed the "bad guys" at the end and saved Jesse (whom he was determined to kill moments earlier), does not make him a hero in the end.
Not to reopen a long discussion but I didn't get the feeling that he was actually determined to kill Jesse moments earlier. He only started complaining to Jack about Jesse not being dead when they put the gun to his head and were about to kill him (yet he still didn't have the car keys in his hand). He needed to buy a few seconds worth of time. That worked. And when he saw Jesse in his slave-like state, he decided to save him.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:32 PM   #583
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ugh, Walt already contracted Jack to kill Jesse for flipping on him to the DEA -- that didn't change. He wanted Jesse dead in the desert.... and then when he heard Jesse was still cooking the Blue meth, he definitely wanted Jesse dead as well... until he saw Jesse in chains and being held as a slave is what changed his mind.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:00 PM   #584
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ugh, Walt already contracted Jack to kill Jesse for flipping on him to the DEA -- that didn't change. He wanted Jesse dead in the desert.... and then when he heard Jesse was still cooking the Blue meth, he definitely wanted Jesse dead as well... until he saw Jesse in chains and being held as a slave is what changed his mind.
Eh, he's had months to sit out in the woods, not thinking about Jesse at all (except possibly regretting that he had to kill him, maybe). Up until he heard about the blue meth, he wasn't thinking about him. After hearing about the blue meth, it's not clear what he was thinking.. We can guess he was mad that Jesse teamed up with Jack, but that's only if he really believed that. He could be mad at Jack for using Jesse to sell more of HIS blue meth. I think there's a chance that he was indifferent to Jesse at this point, and only mentioned him to stall for time so he could reach those keys.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:32 PM   #585
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I'm thinking of trying to be Walter White for Halloween. Don't know where I'd find the right hat and jacket, or yellow hazmat suit. But I was looking through pictures to see if I could find the right look and came across this. Thought you all might enjoy it.



You can buy a print of this graphic in various sizes here.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:49 PM   #586
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Just go in your undies.
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Old 10-29-2013, 04:27 PM   #588
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Bryan Cranston is fabulous.
It's the wrong bear. That one has both eyes.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:56 PM   #589
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Eh, despite his 11th hour "redemption", he's still an anti-hero. He caused so much death and destruction of so many lives... just because he killed the "bad guys" at the end and saved Jesse (whom he was determined to kill moments earlier), does not make him a hero in the end.
Well in the whole context of the series, yes, he's the anti-hero. But if the finale was a standalone movie, he'd be the hero. That's just what I don't like about the finale. The show is still absolutely phenomenal.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:34 AM   #590
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GLAAD sponsored a "wear purple" day last week- maybe this is related?

My husband dressed as Walter for an event last week- please excuse the hasty shadow removal.


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Old 10-30-2013, 01:52 PM   #591
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This isn't the first time this subject has come up in my life, so I think I may have issues seeing pinks and purples.

Are all you guys saying Cranston was wearing purple in those pictures?

I see hot pink.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:53 PM   #592
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Wow, Toni, that's pretty good!

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Old 10-30-2013, 03:18 PM   #594
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This isn't the first time this subject has come up in my life, so I think I may have issues seeing pinks and purples.

Are all you guys saying Cranston was wearing purple in those pictures?

I see hot pink.
It's fuschia.
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Looks more magenta to me.
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:20 PM   #596
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I thought it was salmon.
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Looks more magenta to me.
Close, but I think Magenta is more purpley red. I still say Fuchsia, which is more a purpley pink.

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I wanna know if he was pink for gay rights or pink for breast cancer awareness.
From the one pose, I'd say #1.
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Heck, who remembers when Cranston got a latex mask made up of Walt and put it on during Comic-Con and went around the floor as Walter White?

(That mask was later sold on eBay, but there's YouTube footage of Cranston walking around in the mask dressed as Walt. I'm sure most of the people visiting didn't even realize it.

anyhow, it should be fairly easy to find a yellow tyvek suit if you want to dress up - it's a standard color. Just find out where the contractors shop for construction supplies (think slightly more "pro" than Home Depot, though even HD may have some)
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