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Old 10-21-2013, 09:51 PM   #1141
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Is he joking? CBS has been known as the "geezer network" (I'm out of the "young" demo, so I guess I'm technically part of that, though I've been watching 60 minutes(*) since I was a kid) for decades.. Heck, I've known about it for decades, and it was probably true for decades before that.

(*) Though to hopefully be slightly young, I actually listen to the free audio podcast which (1) I play at 2x, and (2) has very few if any ads.. (Once in a while they seem to put a few ads in the very beginning but I 30 second skip until I hear "and I'm <whoever>, on this week's edition of 60 minutes".)
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:52 PM   #1142
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CBS has been the "older" people's network for quite awhile. Time to bring back some Murder She Wrote and Matlock!
Except Matlock was on NBC then ABC. (had to check imdb, I thought it was only on ABC)
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Old 10-22-2013, 12:51 AM   #1143
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I'm smack in the middle of that 18-49 demographic and the only two networks I watch are CBS and Fox.

I guess a lot of people grew up with CBS and stuck with Walter Cronkite for decades and it's rubbed off?

Though, up to around 30-odd years ago, the most popular TV show in Canada was CBS news. (Then Canada actually started getting some local channels of its own that carried proper national news).

Heck, even as the geezer network, they're still pulling in high ratings.
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:18 AM   #1144
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I have zero idea what network any show is on except "Justified" being on FX for some reason. Why do people care about watching a network as opposed to a show?
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Old 10-22-2013, 11:32 AM   #1145
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, October 21, 2013:
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Time     Net    Show                       18-49        Viewers 
8:00PM   NBC    The Voice (8-10PM)         4.2   11     13.40
         CBS    How I Met Your Mother      2.9   9      7.87
         FOX    Bones                      2.1   6      7.49
         ABC    DWTS (8-10PM)              1.9   5      13.11
         CW     Hart Of Dixie              0.6   2      1.43
                               
8:30PM   CBS    2 Broke Girls              2.6   7      8.05
                                                        
9:00PM   CBS    The Big Bang Theory -R     2.5   6      8.49
         FOX    Sleepy Hollow -R           1.0   3      3.37
         CW     BEAUTY AND THE BEAST       0.6   2      1.67
                                                        
9:30PM   CBS    Mom                        2.4   6      7.79
                         
10:00PM  NBC    The Blacklist              3.0   8      10.57
         ABC    Castle                     1.9   5      10.64
         CBS    Hostages                   1.4   4      5.77
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Last night’s Monday Night Football game (Minnesota at NY Giants) was simulcast on the CBS affiliate in Minnesota and on The CW affiliate in New York. As a result, CBS and CW numbers may be inflated and subject to more than typical adjustments in the finals.

NBC was number one in Adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

On NBC, The Voice fell to a new season low (for a Monday) 4.2, down three tenths from last week's 4.5 adults 18-49 rating. The Blacklist matched last week's 3.0 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, How I Met Your Mother earned a 2.9, down two tenths from last week's 3.1 adults 18-49 rating. 2 Broke Girls matched last week's 2.6 adults 18-49 rating. Mom garnered a 2.4, up four tenths from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. Hostages earned a 1.4, up two tenths from last week's series low 1.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC, Dancing with the Stars earned a season low 1.9, down two tenths from last week's 2.1 adults 18-49 rating. Castle notched a season low-tying 1.9 down three tenths from last week's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX, Bones scored a 2.1, up a tenth from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating.

On the CW, Hart Of Dixie earned a 0.6, up two tenths from last week’s 0.4. BEAUTY AND THE BEAST scored a 0.6, up three tenths from last week's 0.3 adults 18-49 rating.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:44 PM   #1146
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A bit late but Walking Dead's 16 and 14 mill audiences for the last couple of weeks (plus numerous DVR watchers I'm sure) put all the network shows, bar football, to shame.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:06 AM   #1147
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A bit late but Walking Dead's 16 and 14 mill audiences for the last couple of weeks (plus numerous DVR watchers I'm sure) put all the network shows, bar football, to shame.
I don't get the enormous popularity, but I guess people like to be scared.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:27 AM   #1148
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I don't get the enormous popularity, but I guess people like to be scared.


Unless you're a small child afraid of monsters under your bed, there is nothing 'scary' about the show.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:30 AM   #1149
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Unless you're a small child afraid of monsters under your bed, there is nothing 'scary' about the show.
You mean other than the horrific creatures who and used to be characters on the show coming out of nowhere then eating human intestines in a bleak, bleak world full of despair and violence?
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You mean other than the horrific creatures who and used to be characters on the show coming out of nowhere then eating human intestines in a bleak, bleak world full of despair and violence?
Sorry, I don't find it 'scary'. Intense? Yes. Gross? Yes. Possibly disturbing imagery? Yes. Scary? Nope.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:37 AM   #1151
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You mean other than the horrific creatures who and used to be characters on the show coming out of nowhere then eating human intestines in a bleak, bleak world full of despair and violence?
I have yet to find a horror movie that actually scares me, which is why I don't generally enjoy the genre.

I think I read somewhere that when the economy is down, horror movies (and in this case TV shows) tend to do very well. Not sure what the correlation is, but the golden age of horror flicks, was the 1930s, which was during the Great Depression. We see a huge uptick on Vampire and Zombie movies and TV shows over the last 5-10 years or so.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:45 AM   #1152
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Sorry, I don't find it 'scary'. Intense? Yes. Gross? Yes. Possibly disturbing imagery? Yes. Scary? Nope.
It must be true of everyone, then. No one is ever scared by horror movies/shows, apparently.
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I don't think scary is the correct word either, gruesome or gory to the extreme (it makes me laugh most of the time), but there's nothing to make me jump out of my seat or hide behind the couch

Either way, the fact that Steve doesn't like the show isn't especially relevant to a ratings thread, I'm sure there are lots of other shows he doesn't like that get decent ratings. Walking Dead however is, I think, the top rated cable show ever and is beating most of the network shows these days.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:47 AM   #1154
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It must be true of everyone, then. No one is ever scared by horror movies/shows, apparently.
Yes, that's exactly what I said.

Nothing you put forth in what makes the show 'scary' would cause me, or most adults, to be in fear while watching the show. Some people may, but to say that the reason 16 million people watched the season premiere is because they like to be scared is ludicrous.

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Old 10-23-2013, 12:42 PM   #1155
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It must be true of everyone, then. No one is ever scared by horror movies/shows, apparently.
I know I'm not. But I still like them.

I like the Walking Dead because I think it is a good drama. Now most of the special effects look fake because it is a TV show and you need a movie budget to look more realistic with the digital effects. So I don't even see how a person could get scared from the actual effects.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:29 PM   #1156
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Yes, that's exactly what I said.

Nothing you put forth in what makes the show 'scary' would cause me, or most adults, to be in fear while watching the show. Some people may, but to say that the reason 16 million people watched the season premiere is because they like to be scared is ludicrous.
I agree with your last sentence (it's not good because it is scary to some people) but what you said was, "Unless you're a small child afraid of monsters under your bed, there is nothing 'scary' about the show."

There are plenty of people who find it scary. Even some reviewers.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:04 PM   #1157
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Tuesday, October 22, 2013:

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Time    Net  Show                       18-49             Viewers
8:00PM  CBS  NCIS                       3.0    9          18.58
        ABC  S.H.I.E.L.D.               2.6    8          7.13
        NBC  The Biggest Loser          2.0    6          6.64
        FOX  Dads                       1.4    4          3.61
        CW   The Originals              0.9    3          2.15
                                
8:30PM  FOX  Brooklyn Nine-Nine         1.6    4          3.78
                                                          
9:00PM  NBC  The Voice                  4.0    11         12.84
        CBS  NCIS: LA                   2.6    7          14.87
        FOX  New Girl                   1.8    5          3.76
        ABC  The Goldbergs              1.7    5          5.26
        CW   Supernatural               1.0    3          2.30
                                                          
9:30PM  FOX  The Mindy Project          1.4    4          2.86
        ABC  Trophy Wife                1.2    3          4.03
                                                          
10:00PM CBS  Person Of Interest         2.2    6          12.94
        NBC  Chicago Fire               2.1    6          7.59
        ABC  Shark Tank -R              1.1    3          3.45
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NBC was the number one network in adults 18-49 while CBS was on top with total viewers.

On NBC, The Biggest Loser earned a 2.0, down three tenths from last week's 2.3 adults 18-49 premiere rating. The Voice matched last week's 4.0 adults 18-49 rating. Chicago Fire tied its season low with 2.1 from last week's 2.3 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS NCIS notched a 3.0, down a tenth from last week's 3.1 adults 18-49 rating. NCIS: Los Angeles was even with last week's 2.6 adults 18-49 rating. Person Of Interest matched last week's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC, Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. hit a new series low with a 2.6, down two tenths from last week's 2.8 adults 18-49 rating. The Goldbergs garnered a 1.7, up a tenth from last week's series low 1.6 adults 18-49 rating. Trophy Wife fell to a new series low with a 1.2, down a tenth from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX, Dads scored a 1.4, down a tenth from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating. Brooklyn Nine-Nine earned a 1.6, up a tenth from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating. New Girl matched last week's 1.8 adults 18-49 rating. The Mindy Project was also even with last week's 1.4 adults 18-49 rating.

On the CW, The Originals earned a 0.9, down two tenths from last week's 1.1 adults 18-49 rating. Supernatural was flat with last week's 1.0 adults 18-49 rating.
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I agree with your last sentence (it's not good because it is scary to some people) but what you said was, "Unless you're a small child afraid of monsters under your bed, there is nothing 'scary' about the show."

There are plenty of people who find it scary. Even some reviewers.
We'll agree to disagree about the level of scariness. Let's leave it at that and get back to the ratings.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:33 PM   #1159
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Overnight ratings for Wednesday, October 23, 2013:
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Time    Net     Show                         18-49           Viewers Live+SD
8:00PM  FOX     World Series Game 1 (8-10PM)  4.1   11       13.73
        CBS     Survivor Blood vs Water       2.3   7         9.37
        ABC     The Middle                    2.1   7         8.19
        NBC     Revolution                    1.4   4         5.05
        CW      Arrow                         0.9   3         2.81
       
8:30PM  ABC     Back In The Game              1.7   5         6.24
                    
9:00PM  ABC     Modern Family                 3.8   10       10.29
        CBS     Criminal Minds                2.7   7        11.48
        NBC     Law And Order: SVU            1.4   4         5.54
        CW      The Tomorrow People           0.6   2         1.89
                    
9:30PM  ABC     Super Fun Night               2.2   6         5.96
       
10:00PM CBS     CSI                           2.1   6        10.25
        ABC     Nashville                     1.6   4         5.52
        NBC     Ironside                      0.8   2         3.88
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FOX was number one in adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

NOTE: Due to the nature of live programming the ratings for FOX (World Series) are approximate and subject to more than the typical adjustments in the final numbers.

On FOX, Game 1 of the World Series earned a preliminary 4.1 adults 18-49 rating up from last year's Game 1 (Detroit vs. San Francisco ) which earned a 3.2 preliminary rating (and rose to a 3.6 in the finals).

On CBS, Survivor earned a series low (excluding recaps/specials) 2.3, down three tenths from last week's 2.6 adults 18-49 rating. Criminal Minds matched last week's 2.7 adults 18-49 rating. CSI garnered a 2.1, up a tenth from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC, The Middle earned a season low 2.1, down a tenth from its last original's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating. Back In The Game earned a series low 1.7, down two tenths from last week's 1.9 adults 18-49 rating. Modern Family garnered a season low 3.8, down three tenths from last week's 4.1 adults 18-49 rating. Super Fun Night notched a 2.2, up a tenth from last week's 2.1 adults 18-49 rating. Nashville matched last week's 1.6 adults 18-49 rating.

On NBC, Revolution tied last week's series low 1.4 adults 18-49 rating. Law And Order: SVU hit a season low 1.4, down four tenths from last week's 1.8 adults 18-49 rating.Now-canceled Ironside earned a 0.8, down two tenths from last week's 1.0 adults 18-49 rating.

On the CW, Arrow fell to a 0.9, down two tenths from last week's 1.1 adults 18-49 rating. The Tomorrow People also dropped two tenths to a 0.6 from last week's 0.8 adults 18-49 rating.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:54 PM   #1160
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I hope there is another wave of cancelations coming in the next week or two. I have several borderline shows being saved. I'm not sure I want to watch them to begin with so the network dropping them would make my decision easier (Wonderland, Reign, Tomorrow People, and Hostages).
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Overnight ratings for Thursday, October 24, 2013:
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Time    Net   Show                    18-49          Viewers 
8:00PM  CBS   The Big Bang Theory     4.9   16       16.47
        FOX   World Series (8-10PM)   3.4   10       12.67
        NBC   The Voice (8-9PM) -R    1.3   4        5.24
        ABC   OUaT in Wonderland      1.1   4        4.34
        CW    The Vampire Diaries     1.1   3        2.50
        
8:30PM  CBS   The Millers             2.8   8        10.88
                  
9:00PM  ABC   Grey's Anatomy          2.8   8        8.53
        CBS   The Crazy Ones          2.3   7        8.77
        NBC   Sean Saves the World    1.1   3        4.03
        CW    Reign                   0.6   2        1.84
                  
9:30PM  CBS   Two and a Half Men      2.3   6        8.42
        NBC   The Michael J Fox Show  1.2   3        3.74
        
10:00PM ABC   Scandal                 3.0   8        8.65
        CBS   Elementary              1.8   5        8.592
        NBC   Parenthood              1.3   4        3.96
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FOX was number one with adults 18-49 and with total viewers.

On FOX, game two of the World Series earned a preliminary 3.4 adults 18-49 rating up from last year’s World Series Game 2 which earned a preliminary 2.9 and was adjusted to 3.5 in the finals.

On CBS, The Big Bang Theory earned a season low 4.9, down three tenths from last week's 5.2 adults 18-49 rating. The Millers garnered a series low 2.8, down four tenths from last week's 3.2 adults 18-49 rating. The Crazy Ones scored a series low 2.3, down a tenth from last week's 2.4 adults 18-49 rating. Two and a Half Men notched a 2.3, up two tenths from last week's series low 2.1 adults 18-49 rating. Elementary earned a 1.8, up three tenths from last week's series low 1.5 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC, Once Upon A Time in Wonderland earned a 1.1, down a tenth from last week's 1.2 adults 18-49 rating. Grey's Anatomy earned a 2.8, up a tenth from last week's 2.7 adults 18-49 rating. Scandal scored a season low 3.0, down three tenths from last week's 3.3 adults 18-49 rating.

On NBC, Sean Saves the World matched last week's 1.1 adults 18-49 rating. The Michael J Fox Show was even with last week's 1.2 adults 18-49 rating. Parenthood also matched last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating .

On the CW, The Vampire Diaries scored a 1.1, down two tenths from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. Reign earned a 0.6, down two tenths from last week's 0.8 adults 18-49 rating.
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Article on ratings, the TV biz, and demographics...

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"Why does the TV business hate people over 50?" That's one of the most common questions I get asked by viewers.

This is not an idle query. The TV industry, like much of corporate America, chases youth. That pursuit has a major impact on programming. It helps explain why a low-rated show such as NBC's "Community" can keep going (and going, and going ...) while older-skewing shows are usually toast. Even if they have more total viewers.

So now you know why "Harry's Law," the legal drama with sexagenarian Kathy Bates, is no longer on the air. NBC executives said as much when they canceled the show.

Most TV networks are chasing viewers in the "demo," or the demographic ages 18 to 49 as measured by Nielsen. But how and why did that happen? And is that even rational?
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Article on ratings, the TV biz, and demographics...

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Good article. Pretty much what I've been saying here for awhile now. The TV executives an advertisers are chasing a ghost. Once they wise up, things will change. I think they still believe they can bring back the demo. I'm not sure if that's possible. Statistically it doesn't look like it.
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Elementary does skew older. I need to see what I'm missing.
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And it still smoked every other program, even the World Series.
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And it still smoked every other program, even the World Series.
I would be willing to bet it makes a bigger than normal jump when the DVR + 7 numbers are released. I'm sure a few people were watching the World Series while recording the shows they normally watch.
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Overnight broadcast primetime ratings for Friday, October 25, 2013

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Time    Net     Show                18-49         Viewers Live+SD 
8:00PM  CBS     Undercover Boss     1.6  6        8.58
        FOX     MasterChef Jr       1.4  5        3.85
        NBC     Dateline (8-9PM)    1.3  5        6.07
        ABC     Last Man Standing-R 1.0  4        5.02
        CW      The Carrie Diaries  0.3  1        0.84
                    
8:30PM  ABC     The Neighbors -R    0.7  3        3.52
                    
9:00PM  ABC     Shark Tank          2.0  7        7.32
        NBC     Grimm -P            1.8  6        6.13
        CBS     Hawaii Five-0       1.4  5        9.32
        FOX     the Simpsons -R     0.8  3        1.93
        CW      iHeartRadio:KPerry  0.2  1        0.71
                    
9:30PM  FOX     The Simpsons -R     0.7  2        1.78
                    
10:00PM NBC     Dracula -P          1.8  6        5.28
        ABC     20/20               1.5  5        6.68
        CBS     Blue Bloods         1.3  4        11.02
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NBC was number one in adults 18-49 but CBS won with total viewers.

On NBC, Dateline earned a x from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. The season premiere of Grimm earned a 1.8,up from last year's Friday premiere (which earned a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating) but down two tenths from last year's Monday season debut which earned a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. The series premiere of Dracula also earned a 1.8 adults 18-49 rating and is NBC’s highest in-season 18-49 rating in the slot, (excluding breaking news coverage) since January 4. Your predictions for both were spot on!

On ABC, Shark Tank matched last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating 20/20 garnered a 1.5, up three tenths from the previous week's 1.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, Undercover Boss earned a 1.6, down two tenths from last week's 1.8 adults 18-49 rating. Hawaii Five-0 matched last week's 1.4 adults 18-49 rating. Blue Bloods matched last week's 1.3 among adults 18-49.

On FOX, MasterChef Junior scored a 1.4, up a tenth from last week's 1.3 adults 18-49 rating.

On The CW, The Carrie Diaries earned a paltry 0.3 adults 18-49 rating, down from last season's 0.6 series premiere rating and also down a tenth from the 0.4 adults 18-49 rating last season's finale earned. The iHeartRadio Katy Perry special earned a 0.2 adults 18-49 rating.
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I'll put this in the ratings thread rather than the baseball thread:
I'm wondering if the "Friday = TV death" rule applies to live sports that are viewed in bars (usually with the sound off). Does viewing in bars count in the ratings and, if not, I wonder if advertisers account for it some other way.

The reason I ask is that Major League Baseball started the World Series on a Wednesday instead of a Tuesday, and the only reason I can think of was to avoid having a game on Friday. (They'd have had a game on Saturday regardless). But in exchange for no Friday game, they have to go head to head against the NFL four times out of a potential 7 games (Thursday Game 2, Sunday Game 4, Monday Game 5, Thursday Game 7). Had they started on Tuesday they'd only have gone up against the NFL once (Sunday Game 5).

Are the ratings so bad on Friday that they make up for the ratings loss from competing against the NFL on three extra nights?
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:09 AM   #1169
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I'll put this in the ratings thread rather than the baseball thread:
I'm wondering if the "Friday = TV death" rule applies to live sports that are viewed in bars (usually with the sound off). Does viewing in bars count in the ratings and, if not, I wonder if advertisers account for it some other way.
I don't think the Nielsen sampling allows for commercial placement of their boxes. I don't know that for sure, but it makes sense, since one of the measures used is "households."

If that is the case, then, viewing in bars have no effect on the ratings.
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Does Nielsen monitor people, or just TVs?

IOW, in radio, the ratings aren't taken by attaching something to the radio. They're taken by the person carrying around a device that listens for encoded sounds, no matter what radio they're coming from. Anything similar in TV? If so, do they require the sound to be on?

Before the people meters in radio, ratings were taken by diary. That too would have included bar viewing if the TV ratings were taken like that.
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