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Old 10-17-2013, 02:59 PM   #1
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Roamio and Mini update today (10/17/2013)

We will be releasing an update later today for TiVo Roamio and TiVo Mini.

Here is a list of some of the changes:
- TiVo Mini now waits 4 hours (instead of 90 minutes) of no remote control activity before prompting the user and then timing out of live TV and showing a screen saver
- new RF Remote Pairing screen for TiVo Roamio (Settings > Remote)
- fixed audio delay of 10+ seconds when unpausing a Netflix video with Dolby Digital+
- fixed macro-blocking of Amazon downloads
- fixed the occasional loud burst of static
- fixed several issues related to HDMI and various TVs where the UI/video would not display when the TV was turned on, or the box frequently rebooted when the TV was off
- improved the behavior of the RF remote in areas with WiFi interference
- fixed a MoCA encryption incompatibility between Roamio and Mini
- fixed issues related to overlapping recordings causing missed recordings and A/V glitching

The update should probably be available sometime after 4pm PT.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:15 PM   #2
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Thanks and well done Tivo.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:17 PM   #3
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Dang, nailing 'em out.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:28 PM   #4
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Hi Margret,

We very much appreciate the detailed change log!

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Old 10-17-2013, 03:40 PM   #5
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Awesome! Thanks Margret!
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:43 PM   #6
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We very much appreciate the detailed change log!

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Absolutely agree - this is awesome detail!
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:12 PM   #7
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After so many years of not having any information from Tivo about what was included in updates we really appreciate the information you are providing Margaret.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:37 PM   #8
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- TiVo Mini now waits 4 hours (instead of 90 minutes) of no remote control activity before prompting the user and then timing out of live TV and showing a screen saver

Quick question about this - how will this work with dynamic tuners? If I watch TV on my Mini and then turn off the TV, it will hold that tuner for 4 hours before releasing it so that my main TiVo unit can use it? If I hit the TiVo button before leaving the room, would that immediately release the tuner? I'm just hoping to understand how this will work.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:41 PM   #9
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Quick question about this - how will this work with dynamic tuners? If I watch TV on my Mini and then turn off the TV, it will hold that tuner for 4 hours before releasing it so that my main TiVo unit can use it? If I hit the TiVo button before leaving the room, would that immediately release the tuner? I'm just hoping to understand how this will work.
If you just turn off the TV, the Roamio will keep the connection to the MINI for four hours (clock starts following your last interaction with the Mini.)

If you hit the TiVo button, you will immediately release the Tuner. You can then turn off the TV.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:49 PM   #10
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Quick question about this - how will this work with dynamic tuners? If I watch TV on my Mini and then turn off the TV, it will hold that tuner for 4 hours before releasing it so that my main TiVo unit can use it? If I hit the TiVo button before leaving the room, would that immediately release the tuner? I'm just hoping to understand how this will work.
The way it works on the Roamio:

- Hitting the Tivo button releases the tuner.
- Timing out after remote inactivity (now 4 hrs) releases the tuner.
- If the tuner is needed for a recording, the host will reclaim it with a prompt on the Mini to cancel the impending recording if they wish, just like a recording conflict. Unless the recording is actively cancelled, it'll reclaim the tuner.

Otherwise it'll keep the tuner for the 4 hr duration regardless of the TV being on/off. It doesn't seem to detect the TV's status.

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Old 10-17-2013, 05:27 PM   #11
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- fixed issues related to overlapping recordings causing missed recordings and A/V glitching
This is the interesting one. Was the intention to use a single tuner when back-to-back recordings on the same channel overlap but it wasn't working properly and is now fixed? Or was it just a bug and two tuners will be used as usual?
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I'm curious about that as well
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:40 PM   #13
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Is this the "fall update" for the Roamio/Mini? I know they already had most of the features that were being added to the Premiere so maybe there is no "fall update" for them? Just a few minor updates like this to fix bugs?
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Old 10-17-2013, 05:52 PM   #14
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The way it works on the Roamio:

- If the tuner is needed for a recording, the host will reclaim it with a prompt on the Mini to cancel the impending recording if they wish, just like a recording conflict. Unless the recording is actively cancelled, it'll reclaim the tuner.
That behavior is awesome and exactly the way it should work, in my opinion. Thanks for sharing that detail.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:07 PM   #15
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:41 PM   #16
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Aww I liked the mini timeout functioning as an auto sleep function since I use it on my bedroom tv. So now tivo has responded to the squeaky wheels on that issue, but it's introduced a new problem for others... why not just make it configurable?

That said I do appreciate the info about the update.
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:50 PM   #17
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20.3.7.1a is the build, just got the update.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:07 PM   #18
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Amen, sister! And thanks for breaking the changes down.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:08 PM   #19
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Installing now for me.

Edit: Done. Will know tonight if the padding thing is fixed. Thursday is one of my busy nights with lots of back to back recordings with padding.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:29 PM   #20
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My Mini now has What to Watch Now and Manage Recordings & Downloads now appearing in TiVo Central.

Software Version: 20.3.7.1a-01-6-A92
Flash Player: quattro-2-6/2013.09.04-1005
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Old 10-17-2013, 08:08 PM   #21
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My Mini now has What to Watch Now and Manage Recordings & Downloads now appearing in TiVo Central.
My guess is Manage Recordings will disappear soon. It seems to appear for some users right after an upgrade but disappears soon after. I hope I am wrong because I really would love a way to manage season passes and recordings from a Mini.
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My guess is Manage Recordings will disappear soon. It seems to appear for some users right after an upgrade but disappears soon after. I hope I am wrong because I really would love a way to manage season passes and recordings from a Mini.
You already can by pressing 1 (SPM) or 2 (TDL) from TiVo Central.
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You already can by pressing 1 (SPM) or 2 (TDL) from TiVo Central.
Yes, but most people don't know those shortcuts. I think they will eventually make it public but they keep hiding it from TiVo Central for some reason.
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This is the interesting one. Was the intention to use a single tuner when back-to-back recordings on the same channel overlap but it wasn't working properly and is now fixed? Or was it just a bug and two tuners will be used as usual?
It looks like recording was changed to remove the back to back on a single tuner recording. Had The Millers and The Crazy Ones recording back to back on CBS with padding and two tuners were used.
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My Mini now has What to Watch Now and Manage Recordings & Downloads now appearing in TiVo Central.

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Ah, yes! (For some reason I thought Roamio/Mini had it with 20.3.6, so I didn't mention it.)

I should have included this line:

- TiVo Minis can now remotely manage the To Do List and Season Pass Manager of the host TiVo DVR (as long as the DVR is running 20.3.7.1 or later).
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My Mini now has What to Watch Now and Manage Recordings & Downloads now appearing in TiVo Central.
And yes:
- "What to Watch Now" available from TiVo Central

(Went too fast responding to the last message.
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Is this the "fall update" for the Roamio/Mini? I know they already had most of the features that were being added to the Premiere so maybe there is no "fall update" for them? Just a few minor updates like this to fix bugs?
Yes, this is the "Fall Update". 20.3.7.1 will be available to TiVo Premiere boxes later this month. (http://www.tivo.com/priority to get your Premiere to the front the list.)

This update does have some additional hidden goodness for Roamio, but I'm not ready to talk about that yet.
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Update looks good. Thanks for the details. Loving the fast updates.


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Aww I liked the mini timeout functioning as an auto sleep function since I use it on my bedroom tv. So now tivo has responded to the squeaky wheels on that issue, but it's introduced a new problem for others... why not just make it configurable?

That said I do appreciate the info about the update.
Seems like one of those things that it would be nice to have a configurable option.
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:55 PM   #29
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This update does have some additional hidden goodness for Roamio, but I'm not ready to talk about that yet.
Interesting.

When will the UI's look similar on the Minis and the Roamio (instead of the Minis having the old look)?

Still no word on when remote streaming is going to be activated?
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Still no word on when remote streaming is going to be activated?
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