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Old 08-30-2013, 10:05 PM   #1
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HBO, Bad Robot, Westworld!

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/west...-abrams-pilot/

Could be interesting. It's a shame Abrams' record is so spotty...hopefully this will be one of the Good Ones.
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:15 PM   #2
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I love Westworld (and even like Futureworld) but how do you turn that into a weekly series? You can't have the robots go nuts every week, it would defy suspension of disbelief that people would still go to the resort. If you use it for a backdrop for other kinds of stories, then you have the problem of making a "holodeck series" where nothing is real.

To have recurring characters you care for, you have to focus on the people behind the scenes, rather than the guests. I supposed you could do a bit of "Fantasy Island" with a few staff you care about and the fantasy stories of the guests being the point of the series, with most of the guests discovering their fantasies aren't as fun to live out as they are to fantasize about but I think that would get old pretty fast.

You have to admit, though, the idea of a production company named "Bad Robot" doing a series about quite literally bad robots, is somewhat amusing.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:24 AM   #3
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I love Westworld (and even like Futureworld) but how do you turn that into a weekly series?
Obviously it didn't work, but I present exhibit A... Beyond Westworld
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:41 AM   #4
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Are they going to make a Yul Brynner robot to play the Yul Brynner robot?
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I hope they at least give Richard Benjamin a cameo in the pilot. I love that guy!
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:55 AM   #6
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I love Westworld (and even like Futureworld) but how do you turn that into a weekly series? You can't have the robots go nuts every week, it would defy suspension of disbelief that people would still go to the resort. If you use it for a backdrop for other kinds of stories, then you have the problem of making a "holodeck series" where nothing is real.

To have recurring characters you care for, you have to focus on the people behind the scenes, rather than the guests. I supposed you could do a bit of "Fantasy Island" with a few staff you care about and the fantasy stories of the guests being the point of the series, with most of the guests discovering their fantasies aren't as fun to live out as they are to fantasize about but I think that would get old pretty fast.
One thing that Abrams is undeniably good at is unexpected twists on high concepts. (It's the execution that sometimes falls short.) So I assume that HBO didn't just throw a ton of money at him and say "Let's see what you can do with Westworld!", but rather, he came to them with an idea for Westworld that surprised them enough with its doability that they decided to throw a ton of money at him.

And since it seems that he will not be directly running the show, perhaps we'll get the best of both worlds...an Abrams concept which somebody else will take and run with.
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I'm picturing a show like Fantasy Island. New people come every week to experience the place with a hidden dark side to what's going on. Maybe an employee or two "disappears" at first, then the guests start getting killed.

How do you hide the fact that guests or workers are dying? Create an android clone of them, send them home and have them die away from the park. Eventually some reporter will notice that previous guests of Westworld have been dying in single-car accidents or suicides at a way above average rate, usually with their bodies burnt or otherwise damaged almost beyond recognition.
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...with a hidden dark side to what's going on.
And I think that's the key. The people behind Westworld are Up To Something, and Westworld is where they're testing their methods up. Our Heroes have to figure out what's going on (with lots of false leads and red herrings along the way, of course), and as the Big Picture comes into focus, figure out how to stop it.

I'm not sure how big a part the Special Guest Stars will or should play. Focusing too much on that aspect will give the show a campier, more 70s feel to it which I'm not sure would play well to today's audience.
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I hope this is good since it will be on HBO. They keep getting shows that make me subscribe to them to watch.

I didn't realize WestWorld had come out on BD. I think I will pick it up sometime next month. I remember watching it back in the early 70's.
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That could have been better written, but it's still funny!
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I didn't realize WestWorld had come out on BD. I think I will pick it up sometime next month. I remember watching it back in the early 70's.
You need to pay closer attention to the Amazon addiction thread.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...88#post9751188
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Some look like robots. Some look just like people, you could call them skin jobs.

Next thing you know they're attacking your planet and starting a new religion.
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Abrams + Crichton, a match made in Hell.
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Behind the scenes, Westworld will be (1) building a time machine, (2) cloning dinosaur DNA, and (3) building a satellite to retrieve mysterious space-borne viruses.
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You need to pay closer attention to the Amazon addiction thread.

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Crap!! I forgot Amazon started charging tax today in Virginia. I might as well just order it from BestBuy to count toward the Reward Zone dollars.
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Does anyone else think it's perfect that Westworld is going to be a "Bad Robot" production?
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Does anyone else think it's perfect that Westworld is going to be a "Bad Robot" production?
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Obviously it didn't work, but I present exhibit A... Beyond Westworld
Wow cool.

Youtube has everything!

Beyond Westworld Promo




(It looks like the whole episodes are up there too!)
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:08 PM   #21
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I'm beginning to dislike JJ Abrams... I hope his only involvement will be his name..

Jonathan Nolan (The Prestige, The Dark Knight, Person of Interest) will be directing, and co-writing the pilot with Lisa Joy


Nolan's name on this project is more exciting than JJ Abrams, IMO..
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