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Old 08-21-2013, 06:52 PM   #31
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Holy moly that thing is little!
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:20 PM   #32
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I was just about to pull the trigger on a Basic when I remembered that it doesn't do MoCa and I use my current Elite as a MoCa bridge for my entire entertainment center. Hmmm.... Now I have to decide if I should just get a Plus or buy another MoCa adapter.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:46 PM   #33
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Mine arrive tomorrow so if no one has tried by then I will certainly give it a shot.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:48 PM   #34
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Looks like the base model needs different tools to upgrade, T8.
Well that looks rather tight. Plus no fan?
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Well that looks rather tight. Plus no fan?
No fan = quiet
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:49 PM   #36
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I believe the fan is on the same side as the coax so it might not be viewable?
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nevermind I see the fan right below the hard drive in the pic.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:51 PM   #38
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I believe the fan is on the same side as the coax so it might not be viewable?
The pictures of the back of it from the Tivo website, and other places here have no fan on the back.
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nevermind I see the fan right below the hard drive in the pic.
The only thing I see below the hard drive is the power and SATA connector for the hard drive.

Or is that it between the PCB and the hard drive? It certainly needs a fan otherwise it would get very hot in that small case without some active air movement.
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Oh I see it now, its beside the drive and it blows from side to side!
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Anyone taken a stab at this yet. Trying to decide if I want a Pro or a Plus and the potential for upgrade is going to be the deciding factor.
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:35 PM   #42
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Anyone taken a stab at this yet. Trying to decide if I want a Pro or a Plus and the potential for upgrade is going to be the deciding factor.
I'd be really interested if someone tries on a 4TB drive. I believe Seagate has one that's rated for A/V use. I think it's going for around $200.
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:39 PM   #43
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I am so torn on this device. I currently have Window Media Center with a Ceton device and I am not sure if switching to TIVO would be better than what I currently have. Does anyone have any thoughts?
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Oh I see it now, its beside the drive and it blows from side to side!
Ah well. Was hoping for a fanless, lower power Tivo.
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I'd be really interested if someone tries on a 4TB drive. I believe Seagate has one that's rated for A/V use. I think it's going for around $200.
I think we need to know if it's even possible to upgrade before we start trying to find the upper limit.

But in any case if anyone except Weaknees has had success upgrading a Roamio please let us know.
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:52 PM   #46
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Anyone taken a stab at this yet. Trying to decide if I want a Pro or a Plus and the potential for upgrade is going to be the deciding factor.
I am sure it will eventually be available, even if the existing tools require a minor tweek. Weeknees did it in a day - so I cannot be too difficult!

Is the guy that put together the consolidated tools still around? I cannot remember his user name.
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I am sure it will eventually be available, even if the existing tools require a minor tweek. Weeknees did it in a day - so I cannot be too difficult!

Is the guy that put together the consolidated tools still around? I cannot remember his user name.
Both comer (jmfs) and spike (mfslive & WinMFS) have been awol for a while.

I'd like to take this opportunity to shamelessly beg for virgin DvrBARS Full backup images of all three models, and perhaps even the Weaknees upgrade versions. If I can figure it out I will happily post the results.

We can work something out via Dropbox - just send me a PM.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:21 PM   #48
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Both comer (jmfs) and spike (mfslive & WinMFS) have been awol for a while.

I'd like to take this opportunity to shamelessly beg for virgin DvrBARS Full backup images of all three models, and perhaps even the Weaknees upgrade versions. If I can figure it out I will happily post the results.

We can work something out via Dropbox - just send me a PM.
True, but Comer dis make his email address part of the boot screens for JMFS. Anybody tried emailing him?
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If WK did it so quickly I wonder if they had to use anything other than JMFS?
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If WK did it so quickly I wonder if they had to use anything other than JMFS?
They did the same thing with the Premiere and the DVRupgrade guy on ebay does also. The ebay guy doesn't use the tools, but a straight copy and then modifies the partitions manually to incorporate the extra space iirc.

Weaknees never shared how they were able to do it.
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Looks like the base model needs different tools to upgrade, T8.
Here's the Pro/Plus chasis, which they tell me is more similar to the Premiere line


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I love all those heat sinks! So glad they moved that hard drive around too and got the wires away from the heat sink this time.
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By the way, I just emailed Weaknees about a 4TB upgrade and they told me there's a bug they're working to overcome. So maybe we'll have 4TB upgrades soon.
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Almost looks like a 2.5 drive would have been a better option.
Probably cheaper and more reliable with the larger one, assuming they can vent the heat. Also, remember, the stock Roamio is a half height drive whereas the upgrades are full height. Although I assume TiVo specced it out for full height to leave the door open for larger drives later on in this product's lifecycle.
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By the way, I just emailed Weaknees about a 4TB upgrade and they told me there's a bug they're working to overcome. So maybe we'll have 4TB upgrades soon.
"Deja Vu, all over again". At least they caught it before selling and shipping this time, like what happened with the 4TB 2x2TB Premiere original upgrade..
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They did the same thing with the Premiere and the DVRupgrade guy on ebay does also. The ebay guy doesn't use the tools, but a straight copy and then modifies the partitions manually to incorporate the extra space iirc.

Weaknees never shared how they were able to do it.
I can attest to that. I have repeatedly posted about how I don't consider taking (essentially) a stock Premiere drive, doing a DD_Rescue-type copy, then tacking on a ~1.7TB partition at the end of it all "optimized", "aligned", and/or anything special. Most of DVR_DUDE's claims are scare-tactics, myths, and half-truths. The only bonus I could find, was whatever he did to allow you to still use a TiVo-approved external expander (which JMFS doesn't allow for).
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I can attest to that. I have repeatedly posted about how I don't consider taking (essentially) a stock Premiere drive, doing a DD_Rescue-type copy, then tacking on a ~1.7TB partition at the end of it all "optimized", "aligned", and/or anything special. Most of DVR_DUDE's claims are scare-tactics, myths, and half-truths. The only bonus I could find, was whatever he did to allow you to still use a TiVo-approved external expander (which JMFS doesn't allow for).
Well, if it works, it works. Isn't that all that really matters? Who cares how you got there.
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Probably cheaper and more reliable with the larger one, assuming they can vent the heat. Also, remember, the stock Roamio is a half height drive whereas the upgrades are full height. Although I assume TiVo specced it out for full height to leave the door open for larger drives later on in this product's lifecycle.
Technically, a 3.5" full-height drive is twice the height of what we now commonly call "full-height", which makes the thinner ones technically "quarter-height".

I do know that as of 2 years ago, WD's 2.5" 1TB (WITH Advanced Format) drives were full-height, and wouldn't even fit in a laptop (or any I'm aware of). They just recently got those down to half-height. Not sure if they've pulled that of with 2TB, yet...
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Well, if it works, it works. Isn't that all that really matters? Who cares how you got there.
I just don't like the not-so-truth in advertising. But, all the vendors are doing it, so I understand why he joined-in. I'd never buy another drive from him again, though (unless it was my only choice). I wanted 4K aligned and an optimized partition structure. That's what I paid for, not what I received. I have no desire to add an external expander, and know all the DIY methods. He claimed his were something special and superior to all others. I firmly disagree with those claims.
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I just don't like the not-so-truth in advertising. But, all the vendors are doing it, so I understand why he joined-in. I'd never buy another drive from him again, though (unless it was my only choice). I wanted 4K aligned and an optimized partition structure. That's what I paid for, not what I received. I have no desire to add an external expander, and know all the DIY methods. He claimed his were something special and superior to all others. I firmly disagree with those claims.
I had good experiences with DVR-Dude and the three or four drives I got from him. But that was also many years ago. His were certainly cheaper than ones I got from Weaknees and DVR Upgrade. Although doing it myself wasn't bad either.

How recent was your purchase from DVR_Dude?
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