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Old 08-18-2013, 07:57 AM   #61
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I could see them releasing an Amazon Prime app for the Mini and new S5 only. They have much better hardware and should be able to run the app much better then the Premiere. If the hold up has anything to do with hardware then once the S5 is released I suspect we'll see something from Amazon.

Although I hope they retain some way to do the download method for rentals and purchases.
I hope so too. Since, unless something has changed, the Amazon downloads to TiVos are the only way to get 1080P content from Amazon. While Amazon streaming is only 720P.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:39 AM   #62
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Agreed. Seems possible that Amazon wouldn't want to release a Prime Streaming app to an underpowered platform.
Right, because my two year old Sony Blu-ray player that does Amazon is a power house.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:59 AM   #63
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The chip in the Premiere wasn't even state of the art back when it was released 3.5 years ago. It doesn't even technically meet the minimum system requirements for Adobe Air. So it's very possible that Amazon and other services are holding out for better hardware. The Mini has a much more modern chip that's akin to the one used in Samsung Smart TVs, which also use Adobe Air and have a Amazon Prime app. The next gen TiVo, which is rumored to be released some time this week, will have a similar chip to the Mini. So if they are holding off for better hardware then we shouldn't have to wait very long.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:30 AM   #64
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The next gen TiVo, which is rumored to be released some time this week

I must have missed that!
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:32 PM   #65
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https://twitter.com/tivodesign/statu...48332459315200
New update for the Mini, includes HTML 5 Netflix application. No word on DTA.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:43 PM   #66
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That sounds great. Hopefully they fixed the 1080p24 output issue.
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:45 PM   #67
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I have forced a connection a few times on my Mini and also the Premiere it is linked to. I still do not have Netflix. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:47 PM   #68
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Interestingly she also said something about DTA showing up for the Roamio. I would have thought that Premiere needs an update before DTA is working.
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:09 PM   #69
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Interestingly she also said something about DTA showing up for the Roamio. I would have thought that Premiere needs an update before DTA is working.
That's why she said "Roamio". I assume the Roamio units are shipping with a newer version of the software then what we have on our Premiere units. We probably wont see the update for Premiere units for a couple weeks, or maybe not even until the Fall update whenever that happens to be.
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:22 PM   #70
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Yes, I somehow missed the Raomio announcement, which is surprising considering my gadget fetish.

Looks like I can tell my wife what I would like for an anniversary gift this year. Anyone want a good deal on an XL4 + Stream? :P
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:26 PM   #71
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Sorry!

Hi all,

Sorry -- I just learned that while the software update is now available for Mini, Netflix won't actually appear for a few days, possibly not until Monday.

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Old 08-20-2013, 06:37 PM   #72
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Sorry -- I just learned that while the software update is now available for Mini, Netflix won't actually appear for a few days, possibly not until Monday.

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Hah, I spent an hour trying to get it to show up. I updated, rebooted, did a complete system reset and been in and out of every setting at least 3 times!
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Old 08-23-2013, 05:24 PM   #73
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The new Netflix app popped up on my Mini this morning. It's very fast, and when you search from the TiVo UI it takes you directly to the show as described. It still doesn't support the new profiles but hopefully that will be added soon.
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Cool, thanks for the heads up!
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Old 08-23-2013, 08:28 PM   #75
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Does it still crash if you have 1080p/24 set as an output type? (mine is connected to a 720p TV so I can't even test it)
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:46 AM   #76
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Does it still crash if you have 1080p/24 set as an output type? (mine is connected to a 720p TV so I can't even test it)
Not sure what res my Twitter pal was using, but when he stopped Netflix playback last night, the Mini rebooted:

https://twitter.com/DanJacobsen/stat...93706759098368

I logged into the Netflix app, but ended up not watching anything so I can't report back. Wonder what that Amazon app icon was all about, as that did not make a return with Netflix.
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Maybe they're closer to releasing a Prime Streaming app then we think.
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Old 08-25-2013, 02:17 PM   #78
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Nextflix App surprise - view on Mini

Opened the iOS Netflix app last night and to my surprise when I selected a movie it asked if I wanted to view it on my iPhone or "Theatre" (the name of the mini hooked up the the projector in my home theater). I ran down, powered up and sure enough, there was the Netflix app ready to go! I have a Premier XL4 that I had logged into Netflix on, but almost never used due to slowness and awkward implementation. I had never even looked for Netflix on the Mini. Netflix-on-Mini was great! Fast and intuitive!

Good things happening at Tivo these days!
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:54 PM   #79
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Confirmed DIAL Support on both Mini's with the YouTube and Netflix iOS apps.

One of two attached TVs supports 1080p. The new Netflix app immediately starts playing 1080p which is a welcome change. When I exit from playing the stream, the Mini immediately reboots. This is 100% repeatable.

The Mini running a lower resolution doesn't have a problem.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:14 PM   #80
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It looks like this Netflix on Mini is the html5 version as the Roamio has. Finally! Now all we need on the Mini is Season Pass manager and To Do list to work.
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:51 PM   #81
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It looks like this Netflix on Mini is the html5 version as the Roamio has. Finally! Now all we need on the Mini is Season Pass manager and To Do list to work.
YouTube is the new version as well.
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:13 PM   #82
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I just tried Netflix on both of my Minis. For some reason it is scaling the content to 1080P24. In the example short, even when it was at DVD resolution, the Mini was outputting 1080P24.
Then when I tried to exit out of Netflix, the Mini rebooted. I had the same result with both of my Minis. I'm waiting for them to finish booting to try it again.

EDIT: well this is weird. I checked the resolution output screen and it does show 1080P24, but ti doesn't say "pass through" like it doe son the Elites. So if 1080P24 is checked, then the Mini will scale to 1080P24 in Netflix. It was not scaling my TV viewing to 1080P24.

I guess I need to try some Netflix video content to make sure it will output that in 1080i and not 1080P24.
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I just tried Netflix on both of my Minis. For some reason it is scaling the content to 1080P24. In the example short, even when it was at DVD resolution, the Mini was outputting 1080P24.
Then when I tried to exit out of Netflix, the Mini rebooted. I had the same result with both of my Minis. I'm waiting for them to finish booting to try it again.

EDIT: well this is weird. I checked the resolution output screen and it does show 1080P24, but ti doesn't say "pass through" like it doe son the Elites. So if 1080P24 is checked, then the Mini will scale to 1080P24 in Netflix. It was not scaling my TV viewing to 1080P24.

I guess I need to try some Netflix video content to make sure it will output that in 1080i and not 1080P24.
It appears that it will scale all content from Netflix to 1080p24. The reboot only happens when I exit the app. I haven't been able to make it reboot while playing an actual stream.
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It appears that it will scale all content from Netflix to 1080p24. The reboot only happens when I exit the app. I haven't been able to make it reboot while playing an actual stream.
Yes teh same here. It is playing the stream fine but it rebooted when I exited out of Netflix. I've only exited out of Netflix once though with each Mini. RIght now I'm playing back a couple of streams. RIght now I have 1080i and 1080p24 checked for resolution outputs. When in the Netflix menu it is sending 1080i and when I stream a title it is scaling to 1080P24.
I still need to find some video content to see if it it will scale that to 1080P24, which you would not want.

EDIT: OK as soon as I tried to exit out of the stream, that was playing this mini rebooted. Let me try to back out with the other Mini.

EDIT: The second Mini also rebooted.

i'll uncheck 1080P24 output this time to see if that makes a difference like before.
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Yes. With 1080P24 unchecked neither of my Minis are rebooting.

So I guess TiVo still needs to get this figured out so 1080P24 output can be enabled.
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Anyone else getting a V301 error when trying to access Netflix on the Mini? Not sure what i should try to fix it.
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Yes. With 1080P24 unchecked neither of my Minis are rebooting.

So I guess TiVo still needs to get this figured out so 1080P24 output can be enabled.
Guess I didn't notice since my bedroom plasma is 720p.
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Yes. With 1080P24 unchecked neither of my Minis are rebooting.

So I guess TiVo still needs to get this figured out so 1080P24 output can be enabled.
I sent an email to @tivodesign. She responded that they believe they have a fix for this issue and expect to release a minor update in mid-September to address it.
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Anyone else getting a V301 error when trying to access Netflix on the Mini? Not sure what i should try to fix it.
I'm getting the same error. Connecting and restarting didn't fix it. Maybe a few more days...
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It was working last night for me. I unchecked 1080p24 output and didn't have any more issues.
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