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Old 08-19-2013, 06:44 AM   #841
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TiVoShanan will personally deliver me a 6-tuner Tivo with built in Stream and OLED display? Makes espresso, too?
i want dominos pizza ordering back!
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Old 08-19-2013, 07:31 AM   #842
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i want dominos pizza ordering back!
That was like the first time I'd ordered Dominos in years, solely for blog purposes, and boy was it a mistake - they texted me promos for months.

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Old 08-19-2013, 12:14 PM   #843
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That was like the first time I'd ordered Dominos in years, solely for blog purposes, and boy was it a mistake - they texted me promos for months.
Ha! Dominos has a nice smartphone app.
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:58 PM   #844
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While I was out today, I stopped in Best Buy and unsurprisingly no news.

This leads me to believe that this will be an announcement this week with possible ordering direct through TiVo similar to the launch of the Premiere. Best Buy wouldn't have them in stock till September as a result.

If Best Buy was going to have them in stores this week, I would expect to see them in the Best Buy systems where they could clearly see product incoming or in stock. At this point they are saying they can't even see the sku or model numbers.
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:09 PM   #845
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Launching as kids are going back to school and the lucky ones are still on vacation isn't ideal. Other than back to school computers, August is notoriously dead in CE (sales, advertising, interest). So maybe the announcement now and then availability in a few weeks with another post-Labor Day announcement?
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:14 PM   #846
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Maybe they want sales to be slow at first so they can ramp up the support staff and production ahead of the holiday rush. This could be the perfect time to launch a new version.
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:55 PM   #847
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Maybe they want sales to be slow at first so they can ramp up the support staff and production ahead of the holiday rush. This could be the perfect time to launch a new version.
I agree. If they launch at a non-prime period, the low initial sales will make it easier for their support staff to get into the groove. It also might expose bugs that could be fixed by prime-time.

What I don't get is my local Best Buy stores have the 2-Tuner Premiere in-stock, but still want full retail price of $149 for the 75 hour model, same as TiVo directly. They should be in the clearance category, from what I understand is going on in other regions.

Unfortunately, they don't price match in-store prices with online prices. Amazon has the same thing for ~$84, new.

I guess I'll just have to online order, and save on sales tax. I'm just looking for a new unit to have for parts (and a virgin hard drive). I know I can get them cheap from TiVo as refurbished, but who knows what the history of a refurb will be...
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:07 PM   #848
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Here we go!

http://www.petra.com/catalogsearch/r...?q=tivo+roamio

$200, $400, $600







Roamio (4 tuner)
$199.99
Up to 75 HD/500 SD hours of recording capacity
500GB
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Records up to 4 HD shows at once
Works with digital cable systems & digital HD antenna
14-day program guide
Includes RF/IR remote


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$399.99
Records up to 6 HD shows at once
Up to 150 HD/1,000 SD hours of recording capacity
1TB
TiVo® search simultaneously searches TV & web entertainment together
Accesses Netflix®, Hulu Plus®, Amazon®, Pandora®, Spotify®, YouTube® & more
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Connects to multiple TiVo® Mini devices
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Roamio Pro (6 tuners)
$599.99
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I believe only the XL4s are in the clearance category. I have yet to see the Premiere for less than $99 and that was on sale.

It could still be 9/30 for the release. Mention it on earnings call this month, 28th I believe, unveil at CEDIA Sept 26-28th, and on sale first week of October.

I think missing the fall Premieres would be a bad move. By beating the fall premieres you catch those who want to record them all. By releasing after the fall premieres people know how many tuners they need and may opt for the 4 over the 6.

Of course they could also announce this week, sell direct from TiVo, and 30 days later public release on sale at Best Buy like the Premiere launched, iirc.

If they did that depending on what if any upgrade is offered, I don't know what I would do.

EDIT: Big Jim posted while I was typing.

Ouch at the $600 price tag. I am definitely waiting to see what upgrades and bundles are offered. Here is hoping disc drives are easily upgraded.
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I hope not mentioning Netflix on the 4 tuner is just an oversight...
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:15 PM   #851
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Ouch at the $600 price tag. I am definitely waiting to see what upgrades and bundles are offered. Here is hoping disc drives are easily upgraded.
If that information is true, it looks like the only difference between the Plus and the Pro is the hard drive. $200 for a 1TB->3TB upgrade, when even at full retail a new 3TB drive is ~$120, is pretty outrageous pricing.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:17 PM   #852
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If that information is true, it looks like the only difference between the Plus and the Pro is the hard drive. $200 for a 1TB->3TB upgrade, when even at full retail a new 3TB drive is ~$120, is pretty outrageous pricing.
I definitely agree. I know TiVo usually prices the top models so the hardware is profitable, but $200 for a drive upgrade is insane when you can buy the 3TB AV drive for $149 retail.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:20 PM   #853
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Crap!!!! $600?!?!?

Is the only difference between the Plus and the Pro the 3TB drive? if so I hope someone figures out how to expand it quickly. Because if they are the same, I'm not paying $200 for an extra 2TB. Not when I just picked up several 3TB drives for $110 each. And the last 2TB drive I picked up earlier this Summer was only $70.
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$600 is a bit icky, and no MoCA mentioned on the 4-tuner. But otherwise probably within early expectations.
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:24 PM   #855
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Meh... Upgraded processor is all I see so far.

Looks like the 4 tuner unit is significantly hobbled if you take the feature list at face value. No Over the Top apps?

I hope reveiws will reveal more then just this simple incremental update of a processor and two additional tuners.
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Wonder why the base model has a different shape?
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Old 08-19-2013, 04:30 PM   #857
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Wonder why the base model has a different shape?
If you look at it compared to the remote it's also smaller then the other unit.

Also is it just me, or does the remote look stumpier. Looks like it's somewhere between the Premiere remote and the Slide
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Yes the remote does look smaller. Which looks like a nice improvement since I like the size of the Slide remote.

And I guess I need to look at the four tuner unit price to figure out what to sell my ELite boxes for.

But $600 for the pro?? I could see $500 but $600 seems excessive.
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$600 is a bit icky, and no MoCA mentioned on the 4-tuner. But otherwise probably within early expectations.
Stellar find! Even though I'm not surprised by the details or pricing. I assume the current 2-tuner Premiere will stay on shelves for some time (months) at the $100 price point, then we'll see a price drop across the board.
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Also is it just me, or does the remote look stumpier. Looks like it's somewhere between the Premiere remote and the Slide
Yes, at a first passing glace I almost thought it was the Slide.

Can anyone make out what the button says under the directional pad? It almost looks like "Guide" but that would be redundant.

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The software will be the interesting part.
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Stellar find! Even though I'm not surprised by the details or pricing. I assume the current 2-tuner Premiere will stay on shelves for some time (months) at the $100 price point, then we'll see a price drop across the board.
My compulsive need to google the model numbers every couple days to find a hit like this finally paid off.
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I am definitely on hold from a day 1 buy at those prices. It is now entirely dependent on what upgrade offers and bundles are available.

With no upgrade offer and just MSD that is $1000 for the Pro model and $800 for the Plus.
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I can't believe it's actually called a Roamio. Oh well I'll just call it the S5
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Yes, at a first passing glace I almost thought it was the Slide.

Can anyone make out the button under the directional pad? Almost looks like "Guide" but can't quite make it out for sure.
Looks like Guide to me.

The zoom button and regular guide button on the remote look like they say something different.

Either the directional pad is smaller or the remote is somewhere between the size of the Slide and the Peanut. On the Slide you don't have the room for a Guide button there and I can't see making the existing buttons smaller.
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My compulsive need to google the model numbers every couple days to find a hit like this finally paid off.
Your Googling has exceeded my Google Alerts.
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If you look at it compared to the remote it's also smaller then the other unit.

Also is it just me, or does the remote look stumpier. Looks like it's somewhere between the Premiere remote and the Slide
Yes it does look smaller, I didnt notice that at first. Maybe its like someone said and has a wall wart power supply, or one like a laptop. Maybe even the 2.5 form factor hard drive like was discussed. Seagate has a 500GB video drive capable of 12 HD streams, so maybe they threw that in there

EDIT: Looks like Western Digital changed the specs on their 2.5 A/V drive to now say 10, it used to say 4.
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I actually wouldn't mind it having an external power supply. At least those are typically cheap and easy to replace.
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I actually wouldn't mind it having an external power supply. At least those are typically cheap and easy to replace.
Exactly, I agree on that one! TWC uses the DCX3510M Motorola DVR in my area and it has an external power supply on it, very small size for a DVR too.
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No OLED! Arghhhh...
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