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Old 07-30-2013, 01:43 PM   #121
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Their three hour time slot with an excessive amount of commercials seems to allow about n hour and a half of programming. So if I want to see the movie I will have to find it somewhere.
Huh?

The serial they just showed was 1 hour 40 minutes long. The movie is 1 hour 29.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:35 PM   #122
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Yup, they adjust the preamble to the episode depending on episode length, and for the 8th, well there isn't much to say. (The movie, books, and I think a few radio plays, they may mention changes the movie made from the canon).
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:46 PM   #123
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By "the preamble to the episode", do you mean the retrospective on each doctor?

BTW -- yes I admit my frequent rant -- are these Doctor Who serials edited? Though I admit in these cases, I may grit my teeth and watch the (edited) version, as I'm not likely to watch them on netflix if/when I resubscribe. (I have far too many video sources already...) These doctor retrospectives are currently available On Demand, and I can FF through commercials. So I have only watched the beginning part about each doctor for a few of them.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:09 PM   #124
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The eps for the first 5 doctors were the only ones I cared about seeing. The first three because I knew virtually nothing about them and then T Baker and Davison because those are the ones I know and love. Numbers 6 and 7 just seem too cartoony and the use of the question marks is just completely ridiculous. I saw the movie with #8 about ten years ago and I wasn't impressed at all. It will be interesting to see what that episode of Revisited will be about. As for 9, 10, and 11, I've seen them all, no need to revisit them this soon.
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If the movie is not shown, unlikely since they have time for it, it is available on Netflix disc. I did not realize the episodes were so long. I never read the comics or books so the movie will be it for the eighth Doctor. Netflix also offers a disc of extras so it may cover the other media.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:15 AM   #126
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If the movie is not shown, unlikely since they have time for it, it is available on Netflix disc. I did not realize the episodes were so long. I never read the comics or books so the movie will be it for the eighth Doctor. Netflix also offers a disc of extras so it may cover the other media.
The classic series stories were multi episodic arcs with each episode lasting 25 minutes counting the previous episode recap. Most stories lasted for four episodes but some were as short as two, and some as long as six.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:48 PM   #127
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The classic series stories were multi episodic arcs with each episode lasting 25 minutes counting the previous episode recap. Most stories lasted for four episodes but some were as short as two, and some as long as six.
Or even a season long arc, like 4's "The Key To Time". Loved that multi-multi-arc as a kid...
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:21 PM   #128
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The eps for the first 5 doctors were the only ones I cared about seeing. The first three because I knew virtually nothing about them and then T Baker and Davison because those are the ones I know and love. Numbers 6 and 7 just seem too cartoony and the use of the question marks is just completely ridiculous.
Celery on Davison's lapel and question marks on his collars aren't silly at all.

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Old 08-01-2013, 10:19 AM   #129
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I do like the costuming of the 21st century doctors better
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:37 AM   #130
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I do like the costuming of the 21st century doctors better
Yeah, they got ridiculous after Peter Davison.
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Yeah, they got ridiculous after Peter Davison.
It's amusing that whenever anybody here criticizes trends that Peter Davison started, they say "after Peter Davison."
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The question marks are no more silly then them trying to jam "Doctor who" into dialogue in every episode.
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Old 08-01-2013, 11:13 AM   #133
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The question marks are no more silly then them trying to jam "Doctor who" into dialogue in every episode.
Yeah, that's one unfortunate tendency of Moffat's...anything that's worth doing is worth doing over and over and over.
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Let's all settle down and look at Ace.



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Old 08-01-2013, 12:00 PM   #135
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They loo silly and outrageous today but they fit the times they were designed in. Outlandish but within the wilder guidelines of the times. Perspective.
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They look silly and outrageous today but they fit the times they were designed in. Outlandish but within the wilder guidelines of the times. Perspective.
Well, that's not how I remember it...I think Baker II or McCoy would have stood out in any crowd, even in the 80s.

And that's coming from a guy who worked at Shinders in the 80s! (Minneapolis in-joke)
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Well, that's not how I remember it...I think Baker II or McCoy would have stood out in any crowd, even in the 80s.

And that's coming from a guy who worked at Shinders in the 80s! (Minneapolis in-joke)
Stood out. Yes. But not as ridiculous looking as they seem today. Heck, Matt Smith would stand out with a bow tie and the occasional fez.
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Or even a season long arc, like 4's "The Key To Time". Loved that multi-multi-arc as a kid...
Was that the one with Romana II and a white and black time something-or-other that had a bird on the tops of their heads?

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Was that the one with Romana II and a white and black time something-or-other that had a bird on the tops of their heads?
Don't remember the bird thing but that was the last of Romana I before she became Romana II. Romana II (the actress) was in the keys of time serial playing a different character. When Romana regenerated into II she purposely chose the form of that character so they could explain away why the actress was the same.

That whole traveling with a female timelord companion always fascinated me.
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Yes, the White Guardian was the one who sent the Doctor on the quest for the Key to Time. (with the "bird" on his head).

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Looks like the movie will air.

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Yes, the White Guardian was the one who sent the Doctor on the quest for the Key to Time. (with the "bird" on his head).

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Ah yes, they were Guardians. I knew that one was dressed in white and the other in black and the one in black was the bad guy, but I forgot what their title was. Did both the white and black one have a bird on his head?

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I assume they will skip Paul McGann and go right to Christopher Eccelston or will they show Paul McGann and the Doctor Who movie?
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They've said they are doing all 11. We will see how they handle it next month.

Added: FWIW, imdb lists 11 episodes and 8 on August 25.

BBC America webpage selling the DVD for 4 through 8 with the TV movie.
Well, they certainly showed the movie which was actually quit a bit shorter than some of the multi-part episodes.

I really, REALLY wish they had just skipped McGann completely. Being an American production, there were so many cringe-worthy moments, and extended moments, that I just wish they had declared it noncannon and let it go. There were at least two movies starring Peter Cushing as the Doctor that were left out.

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Well, they certainly showed the movie which was actually quit a bit shorter than some of the multi-part episodes.

I really, REALLY wish they had just skipped McGann completely. Being an American production, there were so many cringe-worthy moments, and extended moments, that I just wish they had declared it noncannon and let it go. There were at least two movies starring Peter Cushing as the Doctor that were left out.

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The two movies are not canon, in fact, they are "Doctor Who" in name only, McGann is canon to the BBC series and counts as one of the regenertions,which is why they showed it.
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The two movies are not canon, in fact, they are "Doctor Who" in name only, McGann is canon to the BBC series and counts as one of the regenertions,which is why they showed it.
Yup. The movies were contrary to canon, actually. Completely different take on the Doctor. I always considered them odd. The McGann movie was an attempt to continue the series and hence part of the story. There are oddities at odds with a lot of other canon but when a show runs for (now) 50 years, it is amazing that they are able to keep the level of continuity that they have.
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Just watched the movie. Not as bad as I remember. Actually, pretty decent. Fits pretty well with the new series.
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Wow. You are very charitable. I thought it was incredibly bad.
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Just watched the movie. Not as bad as I remember. Actually, pretty decent. Fits pretty well with the new series.
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Wow. You are very charitable. I thought it was incredibly bad.
I have to agree with Loadstar. I thought it was choppy and weird. It felt like it was made by someone who didn't really understand the show.
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It's interesting, though, how much it anticipates the new series. Kind of like a half-baked rough draft. All the elements are there, they just don't come together yet.

Maybe it was ahead of its time? Or maybe it was just half-baked. Still, I'd classify it as "interesting failure." And Eric Roberts makes a much, MUCH better Master than John Simm!
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