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Old 07-22-2013, 11:00 AM   #91
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I like it too. It seems to me the right way to go for this show. At least he's not just saying the same thing and it's a new gag each time.
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Not to take ANYTHING away from Stewart, but I'm surprised at how much I'm liking Oliver hosting. I didn't not like him before but I was just mostly 'meh' about him. As a host he really shines. Of course I miss Stewart, but he could not have done better for a sub. I think it was a great choice, rather than having different guest hosts all the time.
I always liked John Oliver and he is doing a fine job as the host!

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Old 07-22-2013, 12:53 PM   #92
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I love the running gag at the top of each show, and that the art department has gotten into it and is photoshopping Jon's face onto funny pictures. They'll continue this until September when JS is back, so if you don't like it, no point in complaining about it.
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Old 07-22-2013, 02:10 PM   #93
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I've seen him live. If he is, he isn't very religious.
I know quite a few christians who aren't particularly religious. But that doesn't alter that their perspective on the story of Christ would be different from someone who was never a Christian.
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Old 07-22-2013, 03:38 PM   #94
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Not to take ANYTHING away from Stewart, but I'm surprised at how much I'm liking Oliver hosting. I didn't not like him before but I was just mostly 'meh' about him. As a host he really shines. Of course I miss Stewart, but he could not have done better for a sub. I think it was a great choice, rather than having different guest hosts all the time.
I like Oliver just fine but then again, I like most of the crew that they have now (I'm *sooooo* glad they got rid of Oliva Munn) so I probably would have liked whoever got picked. Especially since the writing staff is intact.

Actually, now that I think about it, it would have been better to give each of the crew a week at the helm. It would been nice to see Sam Bee & Jessica Williams at the desk. Besides Chelsea Handler, are there any other female hosts?
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I know quite a few christians who aren't particularly religious. But that doesn't alter that their perspective on the story of Christ would be different from someone who was never a Christian.
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I like Oliver just fine but then again, I like most of the crew that they have now (I'm *sooooo* glad they got rid of Oliva Munn) so I probably would have liked whoever got picked. Especially since the writing staff is intact.

Actually, now that I think about it, it would have been better to give each of the crew a week at the helm. It would been nice to see Sam Bee & Jessica Williams at the desk. Besides Chelsea Handler, are there any other female hosts?
I like it better they gave it to Oliver the whole summer. I think there's more continuity that way, and I'm not sure that the others could do it. I think Sam Bee could. Not sure about the others. Although a week with Lewis Black as host might have been interesting!
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Although a week with Lewis Black as host might have been interesting!
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I can take Lewis Black in small doses. But as the host? I think I'd hate it.
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What was the reference for the pic of JS they showed at the beginning of Monday's episode?
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I can take Lewis Black in small doses. But as the host? I think I'd hate it.
I liked his "Root of all Evil" show.
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What was the reference for the pic of JS they showed at the beginning of Monday's episode?
It was a pic of 70 year old Geraldo Rivera that he tweeted of himself (with Jon's head superimposed).
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I can take Lewis Black in small doses. But as the host? I think I'd hate it.
I would agree with that although I really enjoyed his F*K Texas bit the other night.
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I would agree with that although I really enjoyed his F*K Texas bit the other night.
That was good!

As much as I REALLY like LB, I'd probably have to agree that he's best in smaller doses.
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I would agree with that although I really enjoyed his F*K Texas bit the other night.
I did too. But a whole show like that? Too much.
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It was a pic of 70 year old Geraldo Rivera that he tweeted of himself (with Jon's head superimposed).
Ah, is that why I saw people referring to Geraldo on Twitter a few days ago?
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I know quite a few christians who aren't particularly religious. But that doesn't alter that their perspective on the story of Christ would be different from someone who was never a Christian.
I didn't make my point very clear.

WHY do you think he is a christian? There is NO evidence of that. It's totally an assumption.
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I didn't make my point very clear.

WHY do you think he is a christian? There is NO evidence of that. It's totally an assumption.
Isn't "christian" the default setting for humans?

For any given person, absent any evidence to the contrary, they're a christian.
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I did too. But a whole show like that? Too much.
I've seen his act on HBO where he does an hour of stand up and he's hysterical. So watching him do 20 minutes a day, where some of it is not him anyway, I'm ok with that. I would bet he's a terrible interviewer though.
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I didn't make my point very clear.

WHY do you think he is a christian? There is NO evidence of that. It's totally an assumption.
I thought he mentioned learning the bible as a kid in that interview.

In any case based only on what John Oliver said in that guest interview I was personally left with the impression he'd been raised Christian. <shrug>
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I thought he mentioned learning the bible as a kid in that interview.

In any case based only on what John Oliver said in that guest interview I was personally left with the impression he'd been raised Christian. <shrug>


Uh ok. Even 'raised a christian' isn't a christian, but tons of people study the bible.
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Isn't "christian" the default setting for humans?

For any given person, absent any evidence to the contrary, they're a christian.
I think Christianity is arguably #1, however it wouldn't surprise me if Islam is actually the most preferred religion in the world..

Then there's the argument over what is being christian.. I tried to setup a christian friend with a catholic girl, and he told me no thanks but he's looking for a christian... To me (agnostic) they both worship the same zombie figure.
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I would agree with that although I really enjoyed his F*K Texas bit the other night.
Me too. My wife said she actually got a bit choked up watching it! And we don't even live in NY.
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Uh ok. Even 'raised a christian' isn't a christian, but tons of people study the bible.
I think you have a different definition than I do and you are trying to be clever or something. I don't get what you are trying to say. If you have some point you are trying to make, please make it, and quit trying to get there obliquely.

His Biography notes he graduated from Christs College, Cambridge, which I would presume has some religious overtones, wouldn't you?

It's not "an assumption" out of whole cloth (with no evidence) as you try to imply, it's what came across in his conversation about this book about Jesus Christ.

He does say "I've not had much of a relationship with Christ, except for.." and goes on to talk about the story of the Crucifixion which had real meaning for him.

Now, you may be trying to say he's not particularly devout or something, I don't know, because you insist on being cryptic, but if you are trying to say he has nothing at all like Christianity in his background, then I think you are sadly mistaken.

Watch the interview. He accepts every word. A non-Christian would have challenged some of the parts of the story that Reza Azlan was offering. For instance, there's actually no historical evidence that Jesus existed at all. None. The entire premise of the book, to discuss what the life of Jesus must've been like, is flawed in that there is no evidence that any such person ever existed. But a Christian doesn't believe that, they believe everything. Just as Jon Oliver did in the interview. Even when Azlan points out (correctly) that the Gospels were written long after the fact (by people who were not even there), at no point does Jon even notice that means we are talking about hearsay handed down by generations and we couldn't possibly know what Jesus actually said.

He may be a lapsed Christian, or a poor Christian, but there's no doubt in my mind that he's a Christian. The interview screams "Christian", or at least Christian-raised and accepting of the basics of the story, which I see from this post you believe means something else, but I don't know what point you are trying to make there.

Had any non-Christian conducted that interview it would have been dramatically different. Why are you so dead-set convinced that he couldn't possibly be a Christian?
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I think Christianity is arguably #1, however it wouldn't surprise me if Islam is actually the most preferred religion in the world..
Christianity is still #1 worldwide (~33%-21%) by a comfortable margin over Islam though I believe Islam is slowly closing the gap.

For the US, it's obviously a much, much bigger (~75%-~1%) difference.
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Christianity is still #1 worldwide (~33%-21%) by a comfortable margin over Islam though I believe Islam is slowly closing the gap.

For the US, it's obviously a much, much bigger (~75%-~1%) difference.
What about Hindu and Buddhism? With nearly half the world's population living in China and India, I'm not sure I'd agree that Christianity is #1 worldwide.
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What about Hindu and Buddhism? With nearly half the world's population living in China and India, I'm not sure I'd agree that Christianity is #1 worldwide.
But if you're white and British, it's a decent enough of a guess...
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I think Christianity is arguably #1, however it wouldn't surprise me if Islam is actually the most preferred religion in the world..

Then there's the argument over what is being christian.. I tried to setup a christian friend with a catholic girl, and he told me no thanks but he's looking for a christian... To me (agnostic) they both worship the same zombie figure.
Isn't a Catholic a Christian? Isn't an Eastern Orthodox person ALSO a Christian? Christian does not equal Protestant only, I'm pretty sure.
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What about Hindu and Buddhism? With nearly half the world's population living in China and India, I'm not sure I'd agree that Christianity is #1 worldwide.
According to the link, Hindu is 13%, and Buddhists 6%.


And I'm as surprised by those numbers as you are.
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According to the link, Hindu is 13%, and Buddhists 6%.


And I'm as surprised by those numbers as you are.
Considering China is a Communist country that discourages religion, maybe Chinese aren't considered Bhuddists?

As for Hindu, while there are a lot of Hindus, I don't think it compares to Christianity when you consider the vast majority of people in Europe, N. America, S. America and a good part of Africa are Christians. Even though India has a LOT of Hindus, around the world, it's not nearly as big.
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Isn't a Catholic a Christian? Isn't an Eastern Orthodox person ALSO a Christian? Christian does not equal Protestant only, I'm pretty sure.
Some people have argued right on this board that Catholics are not Christians. Even within Christianity, you can find the "I am right and you are an ignorant heathen" attitude.
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