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Old 07-12-2013, 10:32 AM   #61
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Exactly

And I'm bad with names. Terrible with names actually. I watch shows for years that I like and for the life of me cannot remember names. So yeah, that was harsh.
To be fair, though, being able to remember names wasn't a factor. You referred to "the woman reporter whose hubby is on the other side"; that's not forgetting somebody's name, that's failing to understand what happened. Her hubby isn't on the other side; he was killed & buried by Barbie.

But I guess if you don't understand what's happening on the show, it can be perfectly enjoyable.
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To be fair, though, being able to remember names wasn't a factor. You referred to "the woman reporter whose hubby is on the other side"; that's not forgetting somebody's name, that's failing to understand what happened. Her hubby isn't on the other side; he was killed & buried by Barbie.

But I guess if you don't understand what's happening on the show, it can be perfectly enjoyable.
I think he confused the "woman cop whose hubby (?) is on the other side" with the "woman reporter whose hubby is on the underside."
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I think he confused the "woman cop whose hubby (?) is on the other side" with the "woman reporter whose hubby is on the underside."
Boyfriend, but yes...but confusing those two is a pretty good indication that somebody hasn't been paying much if any attention. And I continue to be amused that such a person is among the biggest defenders of the show.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:38 AM   #64
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Boyfriend, but yes...but confusing those two is a pretty good indication that somebody hasn't been paying much if any attention. And I continue to be amused that such a person is among the biggest defenders of the show.
Boyfriend. I wasn't sure.

Wasn't defending the mistake. Just tracing where it happened.
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I don't know, I'm still mildly entertained by it. Sure, these characters are stupid, but in an entertaining way.
I'm enjoying it too. I'm a book reader, so part of my enjoyment stems from enjoying the book and seeing the characters come to life. I too am curious as to how they would keep the show moving beyond one season. It doesn't feel like there's enough substance to pull it off. The audience is going to get bored week after week not knowing what the dome is and demand resolution. The only show that I've seen that could successfully pull that off was Lost, and that was by randomly flailing around introducing new and sometimes inconsistent plots.

Maybe someone needs to find a hatch, with a timer and a guy pushing a button, and we could forget about the mysterious dome and fixate on that for a season or two...

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I like the kid and the "two mommy" daughter dynamic.
It feels a bit forced to me, like it hastily thrown in to fit a demographic and not really integrated into the story. The characters should have some bit of mysterious back story to them to keep them interesting, so we can learn something more as the season progresses.
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I'm hoping Junior gets beat up again in the next episode.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:23 PM   #67
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I think he confused the "woman cop whose hubby (?) is on the other side" with the "woman reporter whose hubby is on the underside."
This, you're right.
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Boyfriend, but yes...but confusing those two is a pretty good indication that somebody hasn't been paying much if any attention. And I continue to be amused that such a person is among the biggest defenders of the show.
Biggest defenders of the show? It's mild summer entertainment and I'm enjoying it. If this were on during the fall up against 50 other shows I have on my DVR, I'd probably stop watching too. I have some curiosities on how they will resolve things.

I do think, I'm entitled to an opinion that is different than the majority here and am allowed to express it. But I guess not.
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It feels a bit forced to me, like it hastily thrown in to fit a demographic and not really integrated into the story. The characters should have some bit of mysterious back story to them to keep them interesting, so we can learn something more as the season progresses.
I don't even think the two mommy thing plays into it for me, I like the character. She's got a mysterious side that I'd like to see explored.

As for the rest of what you said, I agree. That's why I asked if there were plans to extend this out past this season. They need to move the story along around the dome.
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I don't even think the two mommy thing plays into it for me, I like the character. She's got a mysterious side that I'd like to see explored.
So it's the daughter you find interesting? I'd agree with that, she's a much more interesting character than her parents. She's rebellious and inquisitive. I bet she'll play a part in sorting things out.
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:58 PM   #71
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I think he confused the "woman cop whose hubby (?) is on the other side" with the "woman reporter whose hubby is on the underside."
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This, you're right.
They're practically twins.


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They're practically twins.

That would be Juliet and Ana Lucia, with Barbie playing the part of Sawyer.
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Old 07-12-2013, 01:10 PM   #73
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LOL! This show is a little too goofy for pretension.
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:23 PM   #74
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But I guess if you don't understand what's happening on the show, it can be perfectly enjoyable.
In Steve's defense, I'm probably also enjoying the show more than most people posting here.

Not that I think the show is currently great (I liked the pilot a lot but the second and third episodes have been rather meh), but the stupidity of the characters isn't bothering me as much as it is others.

For me, I think because this isn't a show about the best and the brightest or even people who have had training for this, these are supposed to be average people who are caught in this situation.

And let's face it, the average person isn't very smart....


So I expect a certain amount of stupidity from the characters.
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LOL! This show is a little too goofy for pretension.
I think you are talking to the wrong person there. Many a show thread has been "Helmerichs'd" and loses all fun for me.

Sure if Barbie murdered him and he's dead then he is "on the other side".
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Old 07-12-2013, 02:42 PM   #76
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Sure if Barbie murdered him and he's dead then he is "on the other side".
It wasn't murder, he was standing his ground.

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Old 07-12-2013, 05:48 PM   #77
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Have they said if this is a mini-series or a regular series with a S2 possibility? I think it's moving too slow for a mini-series and that's my major problem with this show.

Ratings still good?
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They've made it clear that they will stretch it out as long as they can. This will end up like Lost or How I Met You Mother, where you don't get the resolution until the show has become so bad that it's in danger of being canceled.
I think they made a strategic mistake by trying to play both sides. I remember when it was first announced, it was a summer mini-series. Then later, it was changed to "if it does well, we'll keep going". Now they have a semi-dog that doesn't belong anywhere.

They could have made a taut, crisp, fast-paced mini-series. Story would have been better, it would move, people would stay and watch because we would know that the end would bring closure.

Instead we get a show that, before three eps are done, is already dragging in places. And of course it is, they have to make it last as long as they can. Instead, they will get a sloppy story, that loses half its viewers before it's a month old, and ends up serving no master.

Why oh why don't TV execs ever learn? You don't always have to go for six seasons. A fast win beats a slow death any day.
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Old 07-12-2013, 06:10 PM   #78
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Why oh why don't TV execs ever learn? You don't always have to go for six seasons. A fast win beats a slow death any day.
Artistically, you're right. But in the network business model, they're making a massive investment with almost no chance of profit. If this does happen to be the one in (a thousand? Ten thousand? Whatever) that strikes gold, they don't want to limit their ability to rake it in for years to come. Almost every show ends in a slow death, and that's fine with them as long as it has a long life first, during which they can make tons of money and more than offset all the money they lose on all the shows that never make it to six seasons, or three, or one, or even ever get on the air in the first place.

They'd rather bet on a six-season long-shot than on a one-summer long-shot.
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Old 07-13-2013, 09:16 PM   #79
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Should have been a 4 part mini-series. This is awful.

Hate hate hate the "hey dude" teenagers.

Hate the doe eyed deputy.

The newspaper woman is annoying.

Crazy junior sucks.

Barbie is boring.

Hate Florida Evans.

They took an interesting intriguing novel and made it into a bland Days of our Lives.

I'm Out.
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It's too bad that J.J. isn't with her under the dome.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:36 PM   #81
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Just finished the book this week and watched all three episodes tonight.

Loved the book. The re-tooling to make this a full fledged series is a big negative in my enjoyment of the show. Changing characters motivations. Changing characteristics of the dome. May give it another week or two...
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In Steve's defense, I'm probably also enjoying the show more than most people posting here.

Not that I think the show is currently great (I liked the pilot a lot but the second and third episodes have been rather meh), but the stupidity of the characters isn't bothering me as much as it is others.

For me, I think because this isn't a show about the best and the brightest or even people who have had training for this, these are supposed to be average people who are caught in this situation.

And let's face it, the average person isn't very smart....


So I expect a certain amount of stupidity from the characters.

I don't think stupidity is the best way to describe how most of the characters are acting. Stupidity would be taking an axe to the dome or something else that would seem panicky. These people are all too calm. There's seemingly no curiosity, no panic, no planning, nothing that would indicate that they realized they had a dome around them. It's not that they are acting stupid, they just aren't acting like real people who just got cut off from the outside world.
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I forget who got jumped all over for commenting on how in-your-face the two moms things is, but he was right. "We are a same-sex couple." "... our legitimate daughter ...". I'm all for same-sex marriage. What I'm against is bad writing.
He wasn't right... when talking about the pilot. They didn't make a huge deal out of it in that episode. In this one, it was in your face and unrealistic IMO. About par for the course in this show...

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He wasn't right... when talking about the pilot. They didn't make a huge deal out of it in that episode. In this one, it was in your face and unrealistic IMO. About par for the course in this show...

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It is all just bad writing. They weren't in your face at all. It was a confrontation with someone who confronted her. However, all the writing is melodramatic and bad.
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One time is one thing. They did the same "reveal" two or three times in the same episode... that's in your face.

And bad writing
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One time is one thing. They did the same "reveal" two or three times in the same episode... that's in your face.

And bad writing
I say just bad writing because they are trying to do the "fish out of water" thing. Lets have someone who would seem totally out of place and use the resulting tension. So, what would be out of place? A lesbian couple with a teen daughter. What a great idea. In your face says there is an agenda. Given how bad their writing is, I just think it is yet another case of clumsy writing.
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I also think we're seeing the effects of "let's do season 2"-itis in how slowly and stupidly everything is progressing. The initial media coverage of the show acted like this was a fixed 13-episode miniseries, but apparently the show runners have mapped out two additional seasons. This does not bode well for a taut storyline.
Some of your comments describe the typical ~1,000 page Stephen King tome.

I have not read "Under the Dome" but am slogging through "11/22/63" now - it is good but goes on and on and on.

While his books are well written and researched they tend to meander all over the place. He is too big and sells too many books as-is for any editor to turn his books into a taut storyline. I believe SK is heavily involved with the adaption of UTD.
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There is a lot of bad writing and bad acting.

I enjoyed the book, so I will likely stick with it a bit longer, but I dunno....
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I may be smeeking, but did anyone else think "well, you could burn the empty box of matches with that last match"?

I did do a double-take when she offered crazy teenager a ride back into town as soon as they got out of the tunnel. So she followed him in her car?!
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It's Hollywoodland where you can follow someone without ever arousing any suspicion.

In the tunnels, where it's supposedly too dark for them to navigate without light, she manages to follow him. She doesn't stumble or make any noise despite walking just a few yards behind him in tunnels that are dead quiet and where any noise would echo like crazy.
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