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Old 07-10-2013, 03:26 PM   #31
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"How many matches do you have left?"
"Only one. Let's waste it standing around talking."
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Drove me nuts. The last match literally burned out as they were talking. D'oh! No one, repeat, no one, is that stupid in real life.
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I forget who got jumped all over for commenting on how in-your-face the two moms things is, but he was right. "We are a same-sex couple." "... our legitimate daughter ...". I'm all for same-sex marriage. What I'm against is bad writing.
Yeezus, was this ever in your face. "Take you out of the moment" in your face.

It's funny, I was just reading a Ken Levine blog post on "Writing Good Dialogue". In it he gives some tips on how to make TV dialogue sound realistic, and not stilted.

The writers of UTD should read his article.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:34 PM   #32
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The last match literally burned out as they were talking. D'oh!
Due to time constraints, the following dialog had been cut earlier: "Should we look for something else to burn before we run out of matches? Maybe some strips of clothing on a stick, if we can't find anything else?"

"No, don't bother, the stairway is just up ahead, right after the next commercial."
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I forget who got jumped all over for commenting on how in-your-face the two moms things is, but he was right. "We are a same-sex couple." "... our legitimate daughter ...". I'm all for same-sex marriage. What I'm against is bad writing.
If she just said that out of nowhere, I would agree, but in this circumstance, she was being bullied by other patrons of the bar. She was being direct and clear because she was defending herself and her family, not because she was being preachy. It appeared to be a realistic response to the situation IMO.

Overall, though, I'm not too thrilled with the quality of the show. It could have been a lot better than it is, and I think a big contributing factor for the level of quality we're getting is the "need" to extend the story over multiple seasons. They should have stuck with the single season approach here.
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Drove me nuts. The last match literally burned out as they were talking. D'oh! No one, repeat, no one, is that stupid in real life.

Yeezus, was this ever in your face. "Take you out of the moment" in your face.

It's funny, I was just reading a Ken Levine blog post on "Writing Good Dialogue". In it he gives some tips on how to make TV dialogue sound realistic, and not stilted.

The writers of UTD should read his article.
Good simple article. Thanks.
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If she just said that out of nowhere, I would agree, but in this circumstance, she was being bullied by other patrons of the bar. She was being direct and clear because she was defending herself and her family, not because she was being preachy. It appeared to be a realistic response to the situation IMO.
It was in the faces of the viewers not in the face of another character in the show.

If I want to be re-programmed, I'll just watch Everybody Loves Hypnotoad.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:06 PM   #37
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I'm out. The first three episodes remind me of the first three seasons of Lost. The first one was good and drew you in, the second wasn't as good as the first but still showed promise, and the third was just pointless.
Season Pass deleted after this episode. I'll stick with the book.

I'm reminded of Last Resort. Fantastic pilot and concept, second episode not as good and by the end of the third I was done. Last Resort also had better actors.
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It was in the faces of the viewers not in the face of another character in the show.

If I want to be re-programmed, I'll just watch Everybody Loves Hypnotoad.
Huh?
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:25 AM   #39
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I'm reminded of Last Resort. Fantastic pilot and concept, second episode not as good and by the end of the third I was done. Last Resort also had better actors.
This! Same duration for me. 1.5 episodes.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:39 AM   #40
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Drove me nuts. The last match literally burned out as they were talking. D'oh! No one, repeat, no one, is that stupid in real life.

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Unfortunately, yes in the real world, there are many, many, many people that stupid. You hear stories about them on a daily basis. And the ones that are the worst get Darwin awards.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:56 AM   #41
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I think you guys put too much emphasis on the matches. Yes, it was dark, and they were lost. But it's not like their lives were in any immediate danger. They already knew the general direction out (due to the flickering flames), so it was just a matter of time before they found the exit.
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Old 07-11-2013, 09:18 AM   #42
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I think you guys put too much emphasis on the matches. Yes, it was dark, and they were lost. But it's not like their lives were in any immediate danger. They already knew the general direction out (due to the flickering flames), so it was just a matter of time before they found the exit.
I was just responding to the emphasis the show put on the matches. It made a point of that being the final match, presumably to manufacture drama and tension, but then immediately disregarded the drama and tension it had sought to build the moment before. That's poor writing.
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I was just responding to the emphasis the show put on the matches. It made a point of that being the final match, presumably to manufacture drama and tension, but then immediately disregarded the drama and tension it had sought to build the moment before. That's poor writing.
Plus they made a big deal of the structure being unstable because of the dome slicing through it, so there was supposed immediate danger. Without any evidence of it.

We can keep waving all this off as the characters being stupid but what it really is is bad writing.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:10 PM   #44
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I was also a little sad to see Earl, the "Saving Grace" angel, playing the part of a small town bigot.
You mean "country singer who's frozen when he dies and awakens in the 23rd century aboard the Enterprise?



Or perhaps the doctor from Alcatraz?



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You mean "country singer who's frozen when he dies and awakens in the 23rd century aboard the Enterprise?

Or perhaps the doctor from Alcatraz?

He does get around.

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Yeah - those guys. I just expected better from Earl.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:21 PM   #47
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UTD is the first show in years that had my thinking of bailing after just 2.5 episodes. Man oh man episode 3 was boring.
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I don't know, I'm still mildly entertained by it. Sure, these characters are stupid, but in an entertaining way. I guess I'm curious enough to see how they resolve the dome crisis to keep watching. I've stuck through much worse. And I'm not even a SK fan. I like the kid and the "two mommy" daughter dynamic. I think they are interesting characters. And the woman reporter who's hubby is on the other side is interesting.

Have they said if this is a mini-series or a regular series with a S2 possibility? I think it's moving too slow for a mini-series and that's my major problem with this show.

Ratings still good?
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The article I read said that they could continue on to other seasons. If the ratings stay where they are it should easily get another season. But each episode has lost viewers. It started out with around 13.5 million viewers and the third episode is now down to around 10.5 million viewers. For live + Same day ratings. But that is still much higher than anything else out there right now. But if they keep losing viewers at this rate there won't be many left by the end of Summer.
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I guess I'm curious enough to see how they resolve the dome crisis to keep watching.
They've made it clear that they will stretch it out as long as they can. This will end up like Lost or How I Met You Mother, where you don't get the resolution until the show has become so bad that it's in danger of being canceled.
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I don't know, I'm still mildly entertained by it. Sure, these characters are stupid, but in an entertaining way. I guess I'm curious enough to see how they resolve the dome crisis to keep watching. I've stuck through much worse. And I'm not even a SK fan. I like the kid and the "two mommy" daughter dynamic. I think they are interesting characters. And the woman reporter who's hubby is on the other side is interesting.

Have they said if this is a mini-series or a regular series with a S2 possibility? I think it's moving too slow for a mini-series and that's my major problem with this show.

Ratings still good?
The woman reporter who's hubby is on the other side? So I see you are watching this show very closely..................

and the 2 mommy thing is freakin terrible.

This show is horrid.
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The woman reporter who's hubby is on the other side? So I see you are watching this show very closely..................

and the 2 mommy thing is freakin terrible.

This show is horrid.
that's a little harsh, both my wife and I are enjoying it. For us, a suitable summer show where our expectations are not as high as they will be in the fall.
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that's a little harsh, both my wife and I are enjoying it. For us, a suitable summer show where our expectations are not as high as they will be in the fall.
you can still enjoy it even though it is a horrible show, that doesn't change the fact that it is terrible, I enjoy some terrible shows at times also
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The woman reporter who's hubby is on the other side? So I see you are watching this show very closely..................
Well, he IS on the other side.

So to speak.
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This thread needs more Rachelle Lefevre, I even watched "A Gifted Man" for her:

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...I'm all for same-sex marriage. What I'm against is bad writing.
I'm against both....and I'm just about out on this show, too.
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...I'm sticking with it because it is about the only new TV on right now...
Huh? You don't have cable/sat, then, I assume?
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that's a little harsh, both my wife and I are enjoying it. For us, a suitable summer show where our expectations are not as high as they will be in the fall.
Exactly

And I'm bad with names. Terrible with names actually. I watch shows for years that I like and for the life of me cannot remember names. So yeah, that was harsh.
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you can still enjoy it even though it is a horrible show, that doesn't change the fact that it is terrible, I enjoy some terrible shows at times also
If it's that terrible, why put yourself through that torture? I might stick with shows I don't enjoy as much as others, or shows that were good for many years, but turn terrible because I've invested time in it, but for a new show, if it's that terrible, I'm bailing.
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oh I'm out already plenty of stuff on cable and netflix and movies.
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