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Old 06-25-2013, 07:17 PM   #1
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Series 3 Tivo HD Capacitor List

The purpose of this thread is to clarify the ordering information needed to replace the capacitors in a TiVo HD or HD XL.

Step 1: Figure out which model you have. This thread is covering the models TCD652160 and TCD658000. If you have a Series 3 OLED model (TCD 648250 or TCD648250B), then see this post for ordering information: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...93#post9131293

Step 2: Verify that your power supply is made by 3Y Power and has this part number: TiVoPN: SPWR-00011-000 RevB0. The part list in this post is specific to this supply. Pictures of this power supply are in this post: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...62#post9628362

Step 3: Make sure that you can do the work. Capacitors are polarized and must be installed correctly. The trick to soldering is to apply the minimum heat necessary to accomplish the task and enough to get the job done. (In other words try not to burn up your new devices). A video is posted here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...39#post8758939

Step 4: Determine what you want to order. You can opt to change out the caps as they die, or do them all at once. Since the most expensive capacitor located at C120 is not a part under stress (in other words, a part with a longer life), you may only want to replace it if it is showing signs of failure.

Step 5: Order your parts. Here's a list that I used from DigiKey.

Code:
QTY PART NUMBER                 DESCRIPTION                LOCATION
 1  1189-1197-ND   CAP ALUM 470UF 200V 20% RADIAL    C120
 1  493-1896-ND    CAP ALUM 47UF 50V 20% RADIAL      C220
 1  493-5362-1-ND  CAP ALUM 10UF 25V 20% RADIAL      C227
 1  493-5369-1-ND  CAP ALUM 2.2UF 50V 20% RADIAL     C306
 2  P12354-ND      CAP ALUM 1000UF 10V 20% RADIAL    C403,C503
 1  P12376-ND      CAP ALUM 470UF 16V 20% RADIAL     C702
 5  493-6967-ND    CAP ALUM 2200UF 10V 20% RADIAL    C402,C407,C501,C502,C504
 1  P12366-ND      CAP ALUM 1000UF 16V 20% RADIAL    C701
Grand Total: $12.49 + tax + shipping ~$17 in total.

Note, that there are multiple parts which may suffice as replacements, so my list may differ from others. I looked at other part lists posted on this forum and found issues with the specifications of the chosen parts. We want low ESR parts and high ripple currents. We need the ripple current equal to or higher than the original parts. Secondly, I favored parts that were in stock! Lastly, I didn't worry too much about package size since there is plenty of room.

In case you need to substitute a part, here's the original part list and specifications.

Code:
QTY VENDOR & TYPE     DESCRIPTION   Ripple  Imp     LOCATION
 1  CAPXON KF Series  470UF 200V      ?      ?      C120
 1  CAPXON KF Series  47UF 50V       290mA  0.65    C220
 1  CAPXON KF Series  10UF 25V        85mA  2.56    C227
 1  CAPXON KF Series  2.2UF 50V       55mA  2.8     C306
 2  CAPXON KF Series  1000UF 10V     1.43A   .038   C403,C503
 1  CAPXON KF Series  470UF 16V      1.03A   .053   C702
 5  OST RLS Series    2200UF 10V     2.15A   .022   C402,C407,C501,C502,C504
 1  OST RLS Series    1000UF 16V     1.82A   .023   C701
Note: I could not find a data sheet for the 200V capacitor, so the ripple current and impedence is unknown.


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Old 06-25-2013, 09:15 PM   #2
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Well done, thanks! Hope I never need it!

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Old 06-26-2013, 05:21 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by bantar View Post
The purpose of this thread is to clarify the ordering information needed to replace the capacitors in a TiVo HD or HD XL.

Step 1: Figure out which model you have. This thread is covering the models TCD652160 and TCD658000. If you have a Series 3 OLED model (TCD 648250 or TCD648250B), then see this post for ordering information: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...93#post9131293

Step 2: Verify that your power supply is made by 3Y Power and has this part number: TiVoPN: SPWR-00011-000 RevB0. The part list in this post is specific to this supply. Pictures of this power supply are in this post: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...62#post9628362

Step 3: Make sure that you can do the work. Capacitors are polarized and must be installed correctly. The trick to soldering is to apply the minimum heat necessary to accomplish the task and enough to get the job done. (In other words try not to burn up your new devices). A video is posted here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...39#post8758939

Step 4: Determine what you want to order. You can opt to change out the caps as they die, or do them all at once.

Step 5: Order your parts. Here's a list that I used from DigiKey.

Code:
QTY PART NUMBER                 DESCRIPTION                LOCATION
 1  1189-1197-ND   CAP ALUM 470UF 200V 20% RADIAL    C120
 1  493-1896-ND    CAP ALUM 47UF 50V 20% RADIAL      C220
 1  493-5362-1-ND  CAP ALUM 10UF 25V 20% RADIAL      C227
 1  493-5369-1-ND  CAP ALUM 2.2UF 50V 20% RADIAL     C306
 2  P12354-ND      CAP ALUM 1000UF 10V 20% RADIAL    C403,C503
 1  P12376-ND      CAP ALUM 470UF 16V 20% RADIAL     C702
 5  493-6967-ND    CAP ALUM 2200UF 10V 20% RADIAL    C402,C407,C501,C502,C504
 1  P12366-ND      CAP ALUM 1000UF 16V 20% RADIAL    C701
Grand Total: $12.49 + tax + shipping ~$16 in total.

Note, that there are multiple parts which may suffice as replacements, so my list may differ from others. I looked at other part lists posted on this forum and found issues with the specifications of the chosen parts. We want low ESR parts and high ripple currents. We need the ripple current equal to or higher than the original parts. Secondly, I favored parts that were in stock! Lastly, I didn't worry too much about package size since there is plenty of room.

In case you need to substitute a part, here's the original part list and specifications.

Code:
QTY PART NUMBER       DESCRIPTION  Ripple  Imp     LOCATION
 1  CAPXON KF Series  470UF 200V      ?      ?      C120
 1  CAPXON KF Series  47UF 50V       290mA  0.65    C220
 1  CAPXON KF Series  10UF 25V        85mA  2.56    C227
 1  CAPXON KF Series  2.2UF 50V       55mA  2.8     C306
 2  CAPXON KF Series  1000UF 10V     1.43A   .038   C403,C503
 1  CAPXON KF Series  470UF 16V      1.03A   .053   C702
 5  OST RLS Series    2200UF 10V     2.15A   .022   C402,C407,C501,C502,C504
 1  OST RLS Series    1000UF 16V     1.82A   .023   C701
Note: I could not find a data sheet for the 200V capacitor, so the ripple current and impedence is unknown.

That 200 V cap is only handling ripple in the 60Hz to 120Hz range, so it's not subjected to the stresses some of the smaller ones are, is probably not even a low ESR cap, and will probably be just fine even if the smaller ones on the +5 and +12 Volt lines are about to explode.

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Old 06-26-2013, 01:51 PM   #4
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That 200 V cap is only handling ripple in the 60Hz to 120Hz range, so it's not subjected to the stresses some of the smaller ones are, is probably not even a low ESR cap, and will probably be just fine even if the smaller ones on the +5 and +12 Volt lines are about to explode.
Thanks. I've updated the original post noting this as an optional replacement part. I'll try to keep the original post updated if I get any further feedback or corrections. It's always hard when the important details are buried somewhere deep in a popular thread.

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Old 07-22-2013, 11:57 AM   #5
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Running into the Power Supply issue on my TiVo HD 652160 (2 noticeably bulged and leaking 1000uF caps). Replaced the entire supply with the one from my second TivoHd and all is fine, so definitely the power supply.

Wanted to say THANKS for this part list (saw it in another thread as well). got the parts on the way, and will solder when they get in. I'll report back on the resolution.

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Old 12-06-2015, 04:41 PM   #6
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I found this post very helpful in finding a capacitor list for my failing tivo.

Any recommendation on a desoldering tool, or which solder wick to get? Also what solder I should get?

I've got two soldering irons and some radio shack solder. Don't know if its good or not.

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I found this post very helpful in finding a capacitor list for my failing tivo.

Any recommendation on a desoldering tool, or which solder wick to get? Also what solder I should get?

I've got two soldering irons and some radio shack solder. Don't know if its good or not.
You need at least a 40 Watt iron.

You don't have to use a de-soldering tool or plunger type hand held vacuum pump, but they can help.


Radio Shack, about which I don't usually say nice things, has a de-soldering tool that looks like a soldering iron with a turkey baster attached--it's a rubber squeeze bulb.

That can be used to take out the old caps and maybe even as a soldering iron to install the new ones.

Do not, repeat, do not buy desoldering braid from Radio Shack.

They used to have some stuff that wasn't as good as the name brands, but was usable in a pinch but a few years ago they changed to some truly horrible stuff.

I recently bought this stuff

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Product...tualkey590-427

and it's okay.

This

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...8Mm3Johdq7E%3d

would probably be okay as well, I've used Chemtronics braid with good results in the past and might get some more to compare it to the MG from the first link.

And if I were buying MG again, I'd probably get the slightly narrower version of what I got last time.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...1344fRQ5AFw%3d


If you buy your caps from Digi-Key instead of Mouser, you should be able to find the same thing there.

I see they also have Multicore brand braid/wick which I've never seen before, but that's been a good solder brand in the past, so their braid is probably good as well.


I've been using a spool of Radio Shack 64-009A solder for a few years now and it's good enough for TiVo PS caps.

But it's probably a lot more than you need, so see if they have the same thing, only fewer feet of it.

.032 dia.
60/40 lead/tin ratio

Do not use anything lead free or the stuff that's 2% Silver for this job--takes more heat.


If you've got some 63/37 on hand, that'll probably be just as good for this.

And the diameter doesn't have to be the same.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE USING ROSIN-CORE SOLDER AND NOT THE ACID-CORE STUFF PLUMBERS USE!!!


If you have the rosin core without the solder around it, that's called flux.

That's Latin for "flow" or something like that, and flux helps melted solder flow.

If you melt some new rosin-core solder into the solder you're trying to remove, it helps to melt it more than just heating it with the iron.

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Old 02-07-2016, 11:24 PM   #8
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I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to post my thanks.

I have a TiVo HD with a lifetime subscription, and it started to whine and wouldn't boot. I narrowed it down to the power supply, and then I found this thread. I saw 4 capacitors that were bulging, but none of them were leaking.

I ordered the new caps from Digikey as spelled out by bantar (except the largest cap was no longer in stock, I used 1189-1216-ND instead). After replacing the caps, my TiVo is back up and running.

Once again, thanks for the great info!

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