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Old 06-18-2013, 08:17 AM   #1
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Exclamation COX deploying SDV & Tuning Adapters in LAS VEGAS, RIGHT NOW!

COX deploying SDV & Tuning Adapters in LAS VEGAS, RIGHT NOW!

Two days ago, out of nowhere, we received a notification that as of JUNE 17, 2013, Tuning Adapters would be available, as a self-install kit, at our local Cox retail centers, free of charge & additional fees.

It also states that: AS OF JULY 17, 2013, we would lose nearly all our channels, beyond basic service, if the Tuning Adapters were NOT installed before that date.

They make a play to save us the hassle of going through this, by offering ONE (ONLY ONE) of THEIR digital/HD receivers for the same price as a CableCard for 12 months (which I guess might appeal to somebody with ONLY ONE TiVo (or other CableCard device, NOT leased from Cox). After the year of $1.99/month offer, the costs associated with keeping the receiver would go up to whatever rates were in place at that point.

THERE IS NO MENTION OF ON-DEMAND, unless it's while their baiting you with a discounted receiver, leased from them.

In a house where family members are SCOLDED, harshly, for leaving a single CF nightlight on, or not turning off lights when leaving a room, I am very worried about the increased electrical utility bill that will arise from using these Tuning Adapters. We have some of the highest electric rates in the nation. I've read, all over, how these Tuning Adapters are inefficient ELECTRICITY HOGS, run hot, and introduce all sorts of issues in the wake of their deployment.

I realize this is the way things need to be, and it was coming sooner or later. My biggest concern is does the FCC CableCard mandate also cover Tuning Adapters, or are they a separate matter. If separate, who do we complain to, if/when there are problems with them? Cox here absolutely hates TiVo, hates CableCards, & hates supporting the parts that they should be responsible for supporting. Their party line for a year has been "We don't support TiVo". It doesn't matter what the problem is, or if it affects every device in the house, non-TiVo & all, if there are TiVos in the house, that's the line you get...
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:47 AM   #2
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COX deploying SDV & Tuning Adapters in LAS VEGAS, RIGHT NOW!
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In a house where family members are SCOLDED, harshly, for leaving a single CF nightlight on, or not turning off lights when leaving a room, I am very worried about the increased electrical utility bill that will arise from using these Tuning Adapters. We have some of the highest electric rates in the nation. I've read, all over, how these Tuning Adapters are inefficient ELECTRICITY HOGS, run hot, and introduce all sorts of issues in the wake of their deployment.
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Triple posting this? Really?

Boy your mom is really harsh about the electricity usage, isn't she? Hope you can hold up through all the SCOLDING and grow up unwarped by it.

Why does LV have such high rates? Aren't you close to Boulder Dam?
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:26 AM   #3
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Triple posting this? Really?
Why does LV have such high rates? Aren't you close to Boulder Dam?
That is a question that is perfectly valid to ask, and the reference to Boulder Dam even applies.

For some IDIOTIC (probably political) reason, most locally generated power is sold to neighboring states. Then we buy our power from other neighboring states.

The casinos get their electricity at a discount, but the residential consumers get gouged. If you can explain why electricity in the Midwest (like Wisconsin), costs 1/4, or less, than that of Vegas, I'd love to hear why...

The cross posting is due to the very few posts that exist, here, from TiVo users in Las Vegas. I've always felt that the former rogue Cox franchise (which felt rules and regs didn't apply to it), was very successful in a TiVo holocaust, purging those that had them, by making sure it was close to impossible to get a CableCard to work. By the time the FCC stepped in, and the rogue franchise had already fallen back into the fold, I feel like one of maybe a dozen people left (out of an unknown original number), who still fight Cox and their "we don't support TiVo", that I still hear every time I talk to them. It's ALWAYS a battle, just to be a TiVo owner here, and actually use the product.
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Old 06-18-2013, 03:52 PM   #4
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Poor support for TiVo's isn't unique to Comcast. Despite the FCC's official (but de facto unenforceable) support for CableCARD and Tuning Adapters, the real world is that these are a PITA to Cable cos and are less than 1% of their market.

I'm in the Midwest and electricity costs around 11 cents/KWh. Are you saying it costs you 44 cents or more?

Whatever you're paying, apparently neighboring states are outbidding you. As for the casinos .... well politics ... subsidizing the state's major industry.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:59 PM   #5
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I'm in the Midwest and electricity costs around 11 cents/KWh. Are you saying it costs you 44 cents or more?

Whatever you're paying, apparently neighboring states are outbidding you. As for the casinos .... well politics ... subsidizing the state's major industry.
Actually, yes, it can exceed that. The electrical billing out here is like long distance phone service. There's peak billing hours and off-peak. Depending on some of the plans you can sign up for, you can get a decent rate, if you ONLY use electricity during graveyard-shift hours, and none otherwise.

Last month's electric bill for our relatively small 3 bedroom, single story house, was over $600.00. This is on the plan that is supposed to keep the bill roughly the same, each month, all year long. They also remotely shut off our A/C on days when temperatures get above 112, and allow indoor temps to reach 96, before they might turn it back on (But, not in the casinos, of course - they are immune to rolling blackout countermeasures).

Anyway, that paints the extreme price of electricity here, and why adding all the Tuning Adapters is not a popular subject in my home.
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:40 PM   #6
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It's like that (electricity) in Texas too.
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:35 PM   #7
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Well Cisco's STA1540 Tuning Adapter lists a maximum of 15W power dissipation. Couldn't come up with the Motorola equivalent in my quick search. Do you have a Cisco or Motorola system?

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