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Old 05-15-2013, 11:47 AM   #31
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I'd love to see them use the Crimson Dynamo.
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The only characters who other studios have now are Spidey, the FF, and the X-Men (none of whom would be wasted in a SHIELD TV show anyway). And if it were easier just to create their own, they would have done it in the comics, where the last seriously successful character created was, what, Wolverine? 1974?

Nah, if they're going to use super-heroes (I haven't seen the trailer yet), then they'll plunder Marvel's vast catalog. They'd be fools not to.
Are we limiting that to only Marvel? Because I think a case could be made for Wolfman-Perez Teen Titans in 1982. Or, you know, Watchmen in 1986.

Still a very long time. Remember when Nova was going to be "The next Spider-Man"? You just can't force that.
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This kind of reminds me of Heroes but you know it probably won't suck.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's more "Man from U.N.C.L.E" than Heroes, since it's about a super-spy organization. I suspect the super stuff will be incidental and ancillary, to keep costs down.

But I also would bet on references, and how ordinary humans deal with living in a world with Thunder Gods and Hulks.
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I hope you mean the first season....
Well the first two for me.
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They can use Dr. Strange, Daredevil, Black Panther, Hercules, the Inhumans, Ant-Man, the Vision, Wonder Man, Iron Fist. Also, there's no reason Hawkeye or the Black Widow couldn't show up if Jeremy Renner or Scar-Jo aren't busy. (They'd probably save those for Big-Event episodes.)

I wonder if Hydra and/or AIM will be the opposition. But don't expect them to wear those green crepe uniforms (Hydra) or the yellow jumpsuits with hat-box helmets (AIM).
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:12 PM   #37
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They can use Dr. Strange, Daredevil, Black Panther, Hercules, the Inhumans, Ant-Man, the Vision, Wonder Man, Iron Fist. Also, there's no reason Hawkeye or the Black Widow couldn't show up if Jeremy Renner or Scar-Jo aren't busy. (They'd probably save those for Big-Event episodes.)
Dr. Strange, the Panther, Ant Man, and Iron Fist all have movies in various stages of planning, so they would be out. And I assume now that they have Daredevil back, they wouldn't waste him on a TV show. I doubt very much the show's budget could handle even guest appearances by any of the existing movie characters.
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I know that Marvel doesn't own the X-Men films and TV, but can they use the X-Men plot of mutants popping up everywhere? It seems like a good springboard for the Mutant-of-the-Week setting.
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They can use Dr. Strange, Daredevil, Black Panther, Hercules, the Inhumans, Ant-Man, the Vision, Wonder Man, Iron Fist. Also, there's no reason Hawkeye or the Black Widow couldn't show up if Jeremy Renner or Scar-Jo aren't busy. (They'd probably save those for Big-Event episodes.)

I wonder if Hydra and/or AIM will be the opposition. But don't expect them to wear those green crepe uniforms (Hydra) or the yellow jumpsuits with hat-box helmets (AIM).



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There's a super hero called "Wonder Man"?? How inadequate must that guy feel!
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There's a super hero called "Wonder Man"?? How inadequate must that guy feel!
Yes there is, and I liked him until John Byrne got his hands on him.
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Yes there is, and I liked him until John Byrne got his hands on him.
Reading that Wiki article, is it wrong that I think he ought to be played by Matt LeBlanc?
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Few people remember that Wonder Mans brain patterns were used by Ultron to create the Vision. Given the rumors that we might see The Vision in future Avengers movie, it would be way cool to use Wonder Man to set that up in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Not that the movies/TV has to use everything from the books, but it'd be a nice wink to the long time fans.
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Few people remember that Wonder Mans brain patterns were used by Ultron to create the Vision. Given the rumors that we might see The Vision in future Avengers movie, it would be way cool to use Wonder Man to set that up in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Not that the movies/TV has to use everything from the books, but it'd be a nice wink to the long time fans.
I remember because I'm an old dude.

Not only does the Vision have Wonder Man's brain patterns, he has the Golden-Age Human Torch's android body. I always admired Steve Englehart for coming up with that brilliant origin, although I'm told a lot of Marvel writers and editors hated him for meddling with their characters.

Oh, and is there any reason they can't use Prince Namor, the SUB-MARINER?
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Not only does the Vision have Wonder Man's brain patterns, he has the Golden-Age Human Torch's android body. I always admired Steve Englehart for coming up with that brilliant origin, although I'm told a lot of Marvel writers and editors hated him for meddling with their characters.
Roy Thomas and Neal Adams, actually, although Englehart was writing the book when they finally revealed it. But there was that famous scene in the Kree-Skrull War when Ant-Man finds the evidence that the Vision was actually the Human Torch (although we didn't know that's what he found). Apparently, Adams drew the scene without knowing what Ant-Man found, and it struck Thomas that Viz was HT. He dropped hints through the rest of his run.
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Really? It was Thomas and not Englehart who came up with that, and Englehart took the credit -- and the heat -- because he was the writer? Huh.
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Really? It was Thomas and not Englehart who came up with that, and Englehart took the credit -- and the heat -- because he was the writer? Huh.
I don't think he ever took the credit...in retrospect, it was clear that Thomas had been setting it up for years, and I knew when I was a kid the Adams-Thomas story. Englehart was just tying up loose plot threads, and I haven't ever heard him claim anything else.
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So what's the big deal with "Coulson Lives?" Did he die in the Avengers movie? I remember almost nothing from that movie other than a gigantic flying craft and a ridiculously long and elaborate battle scene at the end.

Oh, and them all sitting in a restaurant after the credits.
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So what's the big deal with "Coulson Lives?" Did he die in the Avengers movie? I remember almost nothing from that movie other than a gigantic flying craft and a ridiculously long and elaborate battle scene at the end.

Oh, and them all sitting in a restaurant after the credits.
Yes, he died in the Avengers movie.
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So what's the big deal with "Coulson Lives?" Did he die in the Avengers movie? I remember almost nothing from that movie other than a gigantic flying craft and a ridiculously long and elaborate battle scene at the end.
He was impaled through the chest by a metal rod during that battle. He had a very long and fairly explicit death scene.

They's gots some 'splainin' to do.
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I remember because I'm an old dude.

Not only does the Vision have Wonder Man's brain patterns, he has the Golden-Age Human Torch's android body.

Thanks to John Byrne, that's no longer the case.

Byrne destroyed the Thomas era Vision completely by having him dismantled by the Government and his brain completely erased.
The West Coast Avengers put his body back together but not his mind.

He was later destroyed in Avengers Disassembled and then rebuilt for Young Avengers with a young Immortus' brain patterns.

And he's not the rebuilt Human Torch but something Ultron built based on some of Professor Horton's design work.
Which is why the real Original Human Torch has been running around the Marvel Universe for the last 15 years (although somewhat on and off, so to speak).
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He was impaled through the chest by a metal rod during that battle. He had a very long and fairly explicit death scene.

They's gots some 'splainin' to do.
In a world of super powers, aliens, and high-tech gadgetry, I don't think they will have a problem coming up with an explanation. Or they may even drag it out as the whole season-long mystery plot.
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I think I have it. Coulson is Wolverine's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roomate.
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I think I have it. Coulson is Wolverine's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roomate.
Not that it matters hugely, but Wolverine's father's brother's nephew's cousin could be Wolverine himself.
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In a world of super powers, aliens, and high-tech gadgetry, I don't think they will have a problem coming up with an explanation. Or they may even drag it out as the whole season-long mystery plot.
The simplest way would be to make the TV character an LMD (Life Model Decoy; android duplicates that are commonly used in the SHIELD comic books). And it would open up some interesting sci-fi storylines...what is it to be human? Is an exact duplicate of Coulson Coulson? Etc. etc...a long form version of what Blade Runner did (or Battlestar did badly). All the sci-fi, none of the budget.
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Previously unmentioned twin brother. Phil Coulsen died in the helicarrier. Paul Coulsen, though, he works in a smaller facility that is soon to get a TV show.

Yeah, that works.
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Thanks to John Byrne, that's no longer the case.

Byrne destroyed the Thomas era Vision completely by having him dismantled by the Government and his brain completely erased.
The West Coast Avengers put his body back together but not his mind.

He was later destroyed in Avengers Disassembled and then rebuilt for Young Avengers with a young Immortus' brain patterns.

And he's not the rebuilt Human Torch but something Ultron built based on some of Professor Horton's design work.
Which is why the real Original Human Torch has been running around the Marvel Universe for the last 15 years (although somewhat on and off, so to speak).
Ick. I wish I didn't know that now.
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In a world of super powers, aliens, and high-tech gadgetry, I don't think they will have a problem coming up with an explanation. Or they may even drag it out as the whole season-long mystery plot.
Stick one of Tony Starks glowing widgets in the middle of his chest.
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I suspect you might see a mix of C-Listers and low level A and B listers appearing. It would be pretty easy to use this show to get the public's interest in a certain character and/or a certain actor playing that character.
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