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Old 05-10-2013, 02:44 PM   #871
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I'm assuming the different colors are different seasons (Blue=S1, Red=S2), and the numbers are millions of viewers.

Surprising that the one episode everyone unanimously cites as by far and away the best of S2 (Blackwater, S2E9) is the one that had the least viewers.
I would be surprised if that were the case this time around, as they look to have established a pattern (at least through 2 seasons) where the biggest, most shocking events happen in the penultimate (9th) episode of the season. And anyone who's read the 3rd book can tell you exactly what is going to happen in S3E9, and it's going to blow some people's minds.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:16 PM   #872
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Surprising that the one episode everyone unanimously cites as by far and away the best of S2 (Blackwater, S2E9) is the one that had the least viewers.
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And yes, Blackwater is arguably the best ep ever. It is odd about the viewers.

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Old 05-10-2013, 03:24 PM   #873
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:59 PM   #874
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, May 13, 2013:

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Time    Net     Show                    18-49           Viewers 
8:00PM  NBC     The Voice (8-10PM)      3.6     10      11.03
        CBS     How I Met Your Mother   3.4     11      8.37
        ABC     DWTS (8-10PM)           2.0     6       13.01
        FOX     Hell's Kitchen (8-10PM) 1.7     5       3.97
        CW      90210 (8-10PM)          0.3     1       0.62
        
8:30PM  CBS     The Big Bang Theory -R  2.4     7       7.37
                    
9:00PM  CBS     2 Broke Girls           2.9     8       8.93
                    
9:30PM  CBS     Mike & Molly            2.4     6       8.32
        
10:00PM ABC     Castle                  2.2     6       11.26
        NBC     Revolution              1.9     5       5.72
        CBS     Hawaii Five-0           1.8     5       7.68
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NBC was number one with adults 18-49, while ABC won with total viewers.

On NBC, The Voice notched a 3.6, down half a ratings point from last week's 4.1 adults 18-49 rating. Revolution notched a 1.9, down a tenth from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, How I Met Your Mother garnered a 3.4, up eight tenths after last week's season low 2.6 adults 18-49 rating. 2 Broke Girls notched a 2.9, up two tenths from last week's 2.7 among adults 18-49. Mike & Molly notched a 2.4, up a tenth from last week's 2.3 adults 18-49 rating. Hawaii Five-0 earned a 1.8, down a tenth from last week's 1.9 adults 18-49 rating.

On ABC, Dancing with the Stars matched last week's series low-tying 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. Castle earned a 2.2, up two tenths from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX, a two-hour Hell's Kitchen earned a 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, down two tenths from last Tuesday's 1.9 adults 18-49 rating.

On The CW, a two hour 90210 was even with last week's 0.3 adults 18-49 rating.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:57 AM   #875
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Wow, I wonder if that's the first time American Idol has ever finished 5th for the night in the demo.
Wasn't it second behind CBS?
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:08 AM   #876
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Wasn't it second behind CBS?
Idol got a 2.8 in the A18-49 demo that night. Four shows (Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Scandal, and Grey's Anatomy) ranked higher in the demo that night.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:31 AM   #877
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Idol got a 2.8 in the A18-49 demo that night. Four shows (Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Scandal, and Grey's Anatomy) ranked higher in the demo that night.
You said "for the night" but aaronwt read it as "in its time slot."
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:57 PM   #878
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Nice catch!
Which is why GoT is taking this Sunday off before resuming with the last 2 eps on 6/2 and 6/9.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:35 PM   #879
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Monday, May 20, 2013:
(and the last Monday of May Sweeps)
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Time  Net  Show                       Adults    Viewers
8:00  NBC  The Voice (8-10PM)         3.4/10    10.61
      ABC  DWTS (8-10PM)              2.5/7     14.73
      CBS  2 Broke Girls - R          1.2/4     5.02
      FOX  Raising Hope - R           0.7/2     1.77
      CW   Oh Sit!                    0.3/1     0.89
                                                
8:30  CBS  RoE - Series Finale        1.8/5     6.25
      FOX  Goodwin Games-Ser Prem     0.7/2     1.748
                                                
9:00  CBS  The Big Bang Theory - R    2.2/6     7.56
      FOX  New Girl - R               0.6/2     1.42
      CW   Oh Sit!                    0.2/1     0.64
                                                
9:30  CBS  Mike & Molly - R           2.2/6     7.96
      FOX  The Mindy Project - R      0.6/2     1.392
                                                
10:00 CBS  Hawaii 5-0: Season Finale  2.0/6     9.02
      NBC  Revolution                 1.9/5     5.80
      ABC  Motive - Series Premiere   1.4/4     6.83
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NOTE: vs. last week A18-49 usage was -3% from 8-10p and -2% from 8-11p

NBC was number one with adults 18-49, while ABC won with total viewers.

On NBC, The Voice notched a 3.4 down 11 percent from last week's 3.8 adults 18-49 rating. It was the lowest-rated performance show this season and Monday low for the series. Revolution earned a 1.9 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week.

On CBS, the series finale of Rules of Engagement garnered a 1.8 down 14 percent from a 2.1 on May 6, when it followed a new How I Met Your Mother. The season finale of Hawaii Five-0 earned a 2.0 up 11 percent from last week's 1.8 adults 18-49 rating but down 26 percent from a 2.7 for last year’s season finale on May 14, 2013.

On ABC, the performance finale of Dancing with the Stars scored a 2.5 up 25 percent from last week's series low-tying 2.0 adults 18-49 rating but down 14 percent from a 2.9 for last spring’s performance finale on May 21, 2012 and down 7 percent from a 2.7 for the fall’s performance finale on November 26, 2012. The series premiere of Motive earned a 1.4 adults 18-49 rating, down 33 percent from Castle’s 2.1 in the time period last week. Your predictions were a little too optimistic.

On FOX, the series premiere of the long delayed comedy The Goodwin Games garnered a 0.7 adults 18-49 rating. Your predictions were far too optimistic.

On The CW, Oh Sit scored a 0.3 adults 18-49 rating at 8PM even with its most recent episode on May 6. A second episode at 9PM notched a 0.2 adults 18-49 rating.
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On FOX, the series premiere of the long delayed comedy The Goodwin Games garnered a 0.7 adults 18-49 rating. Your predictions were far too optimistic.
Long delayed? I presume it's just a burnoff of something that they shelved. Were there stories about it before?

This is a backhanded compliment, but I thought it was a decent "second rate sitcom". Despite the name, while I realize this would never happen, it could have evolved into "finish the game, then they all move back to their hometown permanently". It actually sort of reminded me of that show on TNT (??) with the guy moving back home and buying the bar from his father.

I'll still have to look up the actors (I used Tivo's Explore).. The woman was mentioned as being on How I met your Mother.. so I presume she's the stripper girlfriend..
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I never even heard of the Goodwin Games, nor did I have any idea it was going to be on. Based on the ratings, doesn't look like I shouldn't bother with it anyway.
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You said "for the night" but aaronwt read it as "in its time slot."
Isn't that what matters? How it does against the shows that are on at the same time?
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Isn't that what matters? How it does against the shows that are on at the same time?
Not for a show like American Idol that was once the number 1 show on television. To go from #1 overall to 5th on the night is a pretty big tumble.
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Long delayed? I presume it's just a burnoff of something that they shelved. Were there stories about it before?

This is a backhanded compliment, but I thought it was a decent "second rate sitcom". Despite the name, while I realize this would never happen, it could have evolved into "finish the game, then they all move back to their hometown permanently". It actually sort of reminded me of that show on TNT (??) with the guy moving back home and buying the bar from his father.

I'll still have to look up the actors (I used Tivo's Explore).. The woman was mentioned as being on How I met your Mother.. so I presume she's the stripper girlfriend..
The Goodwin Games: I watched this, and was pleasantly surprised. It was enjoyable and fun, and I'll watch the rest.
Here is some background on it, from Alan Sepinwall...

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"The Goodwin Games" debuts tonight at 8:30 Eastern, and the week after Upfront Week is a reminder of how silly the whole process is. FOX ordered this show a year ago, planned to rotate it in with its Tuesday comedies at midseason, then gave up on it when "Ben and Kate" failed out of the gate and the entire night imploded. Seven episodes were shot, then shelved, and that was it. Scott Foley went on to do an arc on "Scandal," Beau Bridges did a CBS pilot ("The Millers") that got picked up, etc. Everyone has moved on. It's as pure a case of Summer Burn-Off Theatre as you can find.
Normally I would run as fast as I can from something like this. But I enjoyed it enough to watch the rest of it. Plus I love Becki Newton.

The TNT bar show is Sullivan & Son, starting back up this summer.
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The summer burn-off reminded me of something I read last week about FOX making a big commitment into "year-round programming". Didn't they say they were going to do that years ago?

For all the lip service, summer still remains - for completely valid business reasons - a desert of network original (non-reality) programming.
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The summer burn-off reminded me of something I read last week about FOX making a big commitment into "year-round programming". Didn't they say they were going to do that years ago?

For all the lip service, summer still remains - for completely valid business reasons - a desert of network original (non-reality) programming.
Yes, FOX made a big deal of it many years ago, then it kind of got swept under the rug. But the reality is, reruns are shown just a fraction as often as they were 10-15 years ago, and summer is filled with original programming, even if most of it is reality. Outside of CBS and their insistence on sticking with crime procedurals that rerun well, there aren't very many reruns shown by the other networks, either during the season or in the summer.
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It used to be summer was the time I watched cable, who had new programming. That's still somewhat true. There's usually a bunch of shows on USA that I watch during the summer, and one or two on FX. Of course now with DVRs, I always have a bunch of stuff saved up..and there's always a baseball game on, and Big Brother. The summer is no longer a time you have to suffer through reruns of any kind.
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Broadcast primetime ratings for Tuesday May 21, 2013
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Time  Net   Show                                   18-49 Rtng/Sh Viewers 
8:00  NBC   NBC News Special: Oklahoma             2.0/6          8.16
      FOX   So You Think You Can Dance (8-10PM)    1.9/6          4.59
      CBS   NCIS: Los Angeles - R                  1.3/4          7.70
      ABC   The Bachelor's Funniest Moments        1.2/4          4.75
      CW    The Vampire Diaries - R                0.3/1          0.77
                                                             
9:00  NBC   The Voice                              3.1/9          9.99
      ABC   DWTS (9-11PM) - Season Finale          2.6/7         14.95
      CBS   NCIS - R                               1.3/3          7.75
      CW    America's Next Top Model - R           0.3/1          0.58
                                                             
10:00 NBC   Grimm - Season Finale                  1.7/5          5.22
      CBS   NCIS -R                                1.4/4          7.15
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NBC was the number one network in adults 18-49 while ABC was on top with total viewers.

On NBC, the news special Devastation in Oklahoma garnered a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating, even with the 2.0 that The Voice Recap earned in the time period last week. The Voice scored a 3.1, down 11 percent from last week's 3.5 adults 18-49 rating for its lowest rated Tuesday telecast this cycle. The season finale of Grimm earned 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, even with last week, but up 6 percent from a 1.6 fir the season one finale on May 18, 2012. Your predictions were accurate.

On ABC, the special The Bachelor’s Funniest Moments earned a 1.2 adults 18-49 rating, up 9 percent from Wipeout’s 1.1 in the time period last week. The two hour season finale of Dancing with the Stars scored a 2.6, up 44 percent from last week's 1.8 adults 18-49 rating but down 21 percent from a 3.3 for last season’s finale on May 22, 2012. It was the lowest rated finale in the show’s history.

On FOX, a two hour So You Think You Can Dance earned a 1.9 adults 18-49 even with last week’s one hour premiere.
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The burn off of ABC's Family Tools didn't last long. They pulled it tonight but as of right now next week's is still scheduled.
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For all the lip service, summer still remains - for completely valid business reasons - a desert of network original (non-reality) programming.
"24" is scheduled for next summer. I sure thought there have been a few other non-cable, non-burnoff summer network shows in the past ~10 years, but can't think of any others.

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The burn off of ABC's Family Tools didn't last long. They pulled it tonight but as of right now next week's is still scheduled.
Was it originally scheduled for tonight? I actually looked in the listings to see if I was forgetting which day it was on, and yeah, I noticed it was still on for next week.

This one is worse than "The Goodwin Games", but somehow I keep watching the shows with the lead in "Family Tools".. He always acts as the bumbling guy, pretty much the same thing, and the shows keep getting cancelled quickly. None are great, but are vaguely amusing.. (The "leading up to the wedding" one, based on a British show, was the best.)
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It used to be summer was the time I watched cable, who had new programming. That's still somewhat true. There's usually a bunch of shows on USA that I watch during the summer, and one or two on FX. Of course now with DVRs, I always have a bunch of stuff saved up..and there's always a baseball game on, and Big Brother. The summer is no longer a time you have to suffer through reruns of any kind.
I've got 16 shows and over 200 hours of programming set to record this summer. I don't know how the hell I'm going to catch up on the dozen or so shows I still have left from the fall/winter seasons.
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Apparently NBC and CBS are fighting over whether Sunday Night Football or the Big Bang Theory is the number one rated prime time show for the just completed TV season.
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Apparently NBC and CBS are fighting over whether Sunday Night Football or the Big Bang Theory is the number one rated prime time show for the just completed TV season.
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For the 2012-2013 primetime television season, Sunday Night Football ranks as the most-watched show (21.5 million, viewers 2+), and the No. 1 program across the key demographics of Adults 18-49, 18-34, 25-54 as well as Men 18-49, 18-34 and 25-54.

The 21.5 million average viewers for Sunday Night Football (all 19 telecasts) tops second place NCIS (21.3 million);

In the advertiser-coveted Adult 18-49 demographic, SNF tops the second place show by two full ratings points (8.2 vs. 6.2 for Big Bang Theory);

In the Adult 18-34 demographic, Sunday Night Football’s margin over the second place show is 60% (7.2 vs. 4.5 for Big Bang Theory).
I'm curious what arguments CBS has to refute those numbers.
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The summer burn-off reminded me of something I read last week about FOX making a big commitment into "year-round programming". Didn't they say they were going to do that years ago?

For all the lip service, summer still remains - for completely valid business reasons - a desert of network original (non-reality) programming.
Here's a list of the premiere dates of all the shows airing on broadcast and cable this summer:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...r-2013/183099/

Sure, most of these shows are on cable. But there are still several on the broadcast networks, and not all of them are reality.
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Final night of May Sweeps

Overnight ratings for Wednesday, May 22, 2013:

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Time  Net  Show                            18-49     Viewers
8:00  ABC  The Middle - Season Finale      2.0/7     7.53
      FOX  MasterChef - Season Premiere    2.0/7     5.09
      NBC  Dateline                        1.4/5     6.19
      CBS  Two and Half Men - R            1.1/4     5.31
      CW   Love Happens (8-10PM)           0.3/1     1.12
                                                 
8:30  ABC  Modern Family - R               1.6/5     5.62
      CBS  Mike and Molly - R              1.2/4     5.38
                                                 
9:00  ABC  Modern Family - Season Finale   3.6/11    9.92
      CBS  Criminal Minds (9-11PM)SFinale  2.7/8    10.80
      FOX  MasterChef                      2.2/6     5.39
      NBC  Law & Order: SVU-SF             1.6/5     6.68
                                                 
9:30  ABC  How To Live With Your Parents…  2.2/6     6.32
                                                 
10:00 ABC  Nashville - Season Finale       1.9/5     6.07
      NBC  Chicago Fire - Season Finale    1.7/5     6.17
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ABC and CBS tied for the number one network in adults 18-49 while CBS was on top with total viewers.

On ABC, the season finale of The Middle scored a 2.0 up 5 percent from last week’s 1.9 adults 18-49 rating and even with last season’s finale on May 23, 2012. The season finale of Modern Family garnered a 3.6 down 3 percent from last week's 3.7 adults 18-49 rating and down 12 percent from a 4.1 for last season’s finale on May 23, 2012, for its lowest rated season finale ever. How To Live With Your Parents (For the Rest of Your Life) earned a 2.2 up 10 percent from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. The season finale of Nashville scored a 1.9 up 12 percent from last week's 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, for its best adults 18-49 performance since January 16. Your predictions were a little too low.

On CBS, the two hour finale of Criminal Minds earned a 2.7 up 4 percent from last week's 2.6 adults 18-49 rating but down 25 percent from a 3.6 for last season’s finale on May 16, 2012.

On NBC, Dateline scored a 1.4 up 8 percent from last Wednesday’s 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. The season finale of Law And Order: SVU earned a 1.6 up 7 percent from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating but down 20 percent from a 2.0 for last season’s finale on May 23, 2012. The season finale of Chicago Fire garnered a 1.7 down 15 percent from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. Your predictions were too optimistic.

On FOX, the season premiere of MasterChef earned a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating at 8PM down 13 percent from a 2.3 for the previous season premiere on June 4, 2012. A second episode at 9PM scored a 2.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On The CW, the movie Love Happens notched a 0.3 adults 18-49 rating.
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Wow, I didn't realize so many shows stretched their season finales out until last night. Most of the shows I watch ended a week or two ago, and the only new network stuff I've had this week was Simpsons, Family Guy, Rules of Engagement, Revolution, and Modern Family.
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I'm curious what arguments CBS has to refute those numbers.
It really makes you wonder where NBC would be without SNF? But, are they making money on it? The rights fees are huge, and, it doesn't seem to be helping bump their other shows much.
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Final night of May Sweeps

Overnight ratings for Wednesday, May 22, 2013:

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Time  Net  Show                            18-49     Viewers
8:00  ABC  The Middle - Season Finale      2.0/7     7.53
      FOX  MasterChef - Season Premiere    2.0/7     5.09
      NBC  Dateline                        1.4/5     6.19
      CBS  Two and Half Men - R            1.1/4     5.31
      CW   Love Happens (8-10PM)           0.3/1     1.12
                                                 
8:30  ABC  Modern Family - R               1.6/5     5.62
      CBS  Mike and Molly - R              1.2/4     5.38
                                                 
9:00  ABC  Modern Family - Season Finale   3.6/11    9.92
      CBS  Criminal Minds (9-11PM)SFinale  2.7/8    10.80
      FOX  MasterChef                      2.2/6     5.39
      NBC  Law & Order: SVU-SF             1.6/5     6.68
                                                 
9:30  ABC  How To Live With Your Parents…  2.2/6     6.32
                                                 
10:00 ABC  Nashville - Season Finale       1.9/5     6.07
      NBC  Chicago Fire - Season Finale    1.7/5     6.17
comments from TVbytheNumbers:

ABC and CBS tied for the number one network in adults 18-49 while CBS was on top with total viewers.

On ABC, the season finale of The Middle scored a 2.0 up 5 percent from last week’s 1.9 adults 18-49 rating and even with last season’s finale on May 23, 2012. The season finale of Modern Family garnered a 3.6 down 3 percent from last week's 3.7 adults 18-49 rating and down 12 percent from a 4.1 for last season’s finale on May 23, 2012, for its lowest rated season finale ever. How To Live With Your Parents (For the Rest of Your Life) earned a 2.2 up 10 percent from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. The season finale of Nashville scored a 1.9 up 12 percent from last week's 1.7 adults 18-49 rating, for its best adults 18-49 performance since January 16. Your predictions were a little too low.

On CBS, the two hour finale of Criminal Minds earned a 2.7 up 4 percent from last week's 2.6 adults 18-49 rating but down 25 percent from a 3.6 for last season’s finale on May 16, 2012.

On NBC, Dateline scored a 1.4 up 8 percent from last Wednesday’s 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. The season finale of Law And Order: SVU earned a 1.6 up 7 percent from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating but down 20 percent from a 2.0 for last season’s finale on May 23, 2012. The season finale of Chicago Fire garnered a 1.7 down 15 percent from last week's 2.0 adults 18-49 rating. Your predictions were too optimistic.

On FOX, the season premiere of MasterChef earned a 2.0 adults 18-49 rating at 8PM down 13 percent from a 2.3 for the previous season premiere on June 4, 2012. A second episode at 9PM scored a 2.2 adults 18-49 rating.

On The CW, the movie Love Happens notched a 0.3 adults 18-49 rating.
I'm glad to see How to Live your Life with your Parents doing ok. That show has grown on me. The pilot was just ok, but it's really gotten to be pretty good. Is ABC planning to bring that one back?
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Was it originally scheduled for tonight? I actually looked in the listings to see if I was forgetting which day it was on, and yeah, I noticed it was still on for next week.
It was. I saw it in my ToDo List as late as Wednesday morning when I glanced at it to see what I could watch that night.

Then, by the evening, it was gone from the ToDo List so I assume it was a last-minute ABC decision.
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To be clear on my comments about summer being a "desert" on the networks... I fully realize there are a lot more original programs in the summer than there used to be - and I enjoy many of them.

My point was specifically about FOX because they said years ago they were moving to a "full year" schedule and they never really did. And now this year they're saying the exact same thing again. And I doubt they will now either.

But that said, I totally understand why they don't. It doesn't make business sense because the audience just isn't there in the summer. I don't blame them for not doing more in the summer. I just hate to have them keep saying they're going to - when we all know they won't.
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