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Old 04-16-2013, 10:25 PM   #151
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At least you guys can get HBOGo. My podunk cable company doesn't have it.
Are you talking about HBO On Demand? HBOGo is an app you download in your computer or phone or tablet, not something provided by a cable co.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:16 PM   #152
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Are you talking about HBO On Demand? HBOGo is an app you download in your computer or phone or tablet, not something provided by a cable co.
Your cable company, through which you subscribe to HBO, has to support HBOGo in order to be able to log into it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:48 AM   #153
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Are you talking about HBO On Demand? HBOGo is an app you download in your computer or phone or tablet, not something provided by a cable co.
I don't think I can get HBO On Demand either, but I was specifically talking about HBOGo.

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Your cable company, through which you subscribe to HBO, has to support HBOGo in order to be able to log into it.
This. I've called my cable company a couple of times asking about it and they say they don't offer it and there are currently no pending plans to offer it.

I wonder what the reasoning is for certain cable companies to not offer something like this? People that do receive it, get it free with their HBO service but I wonder if somehow it costs the cable company more to offer it?
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:47 AM   #154
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I don't think I can get HBO On Demand either, but I was specifically talking about HBOGo.



This. I've called my cable company a couple of times asking about it and they say they don't offer it and there are currently no pending plans to offer it.

I wonder what the reasoning is for certain cable companies to not offer something like this? People that do receive it, get it free with their HBO service but I wonder if somehow it costs the cable company more to offer it?
I suspect that HBO (and Showtime, Cinemax, etc) doesn't actually know who subscribes to their channels. You order from your cable company, you pay your cable company, etc and the list of subscribers probably never makes it back to them. So in order for them to know you are a subscriber, your cable company would have to integrate into their system so they can verify your subscription status. Not all cable companies have bothered to integrate their systems with HBO, thus those customers can't use HBOGo
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What was Arya referring to when she made a point of going up to Clegane and asking him whether he remembered the last time he was at that spot?

It seems pretty apparent that after Dany gets her army of 8000, she's going to lay waste to the whole slave civilization - she's repeatedly expressed her disgust with them and she knows the head guy is a jerk, so I don't think she'll have any qualms about that. But I am worried that the dragon she gave up for the 8000 is somehow going to get caught up in the crossfire (at least in part because they made such a point of her two advisors being against agreeing to give up the dragon), and she'll end up with only 2 dragons at her disposal going forward anyway.
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:35 PM   #156
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What was Arya referring to when she made a point of going up to Clegane and asking him whether he remembered the last time he was at that spot?
Not sure, but I think that was the place where he killed the butcher's boy back when the Starks were making their journey to King's Landing.
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:52 PM   #157
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Littlefinger had a hand in the Stark assasination, too. He was the one who right off said he sold the dagger to Tyrion.

Did Tyrion ever address that directly at his trial?
Tyrion did say "What kind of an idiot gives an assassin his own blade" or words to that effect during his trial. That, to me, acknowledges his ownership of the knife.

Even if Littlefinger marries Lysa, her son Robyn(sp) is still master of the Vale I would think. I don't see how Littlefinger would leapfrog Robyn's claims.
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Not sure, but I think that was the place where he killed the butcher's boy back when the Starks were making their journey to King's Landing.
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Hmmm ... I barely remember the butcher's boy. No, I take that back - I don't remember the butcher's boy at all.

Before I forget, I loved Ser Bronn referring to Lord Baelish as "twatbeard." What a perfect description of his scraggly triangular growth. I bet that's not in the book, but that somebody (maybe the guy who plays Bronn or even the guy who plays Baelish himsel) came up with it.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:06 PM   #160
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Already have enough streaming devices in my house, and completely out of HDMI ports hahaha.
They make HDMI hubs for that very reason
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:10 PM   #161
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Hmmm ... I barely remember the butcher's boy. No, I take that back - I don't remember the butcher's boy at all.

Before I forget, I loved Ser Bronn referring to Lord Baelish as "twatbeard." What a perfect description of his scraggly triangular growth. I bet that's not in the book, but that somebody (maybe the guy who plays Bronn or even the guy who plays Baelish himsel) came up with it.
The Butcher's boy was wooden swordfighting with Arya at Arya's request down by the river. Joffrey tried to kill him, Arya disarmed Joffrey and one of the direwolves bit Joffrey. The Butcher's boy ran away and later that night was shown laid over the saddle dead on a horse that the Hound was leading back into town. The Hound made some kind of quip that he wasn't much of an opponent.

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Favorite new character is the Queen of Thorns, Lady Olenna. She looks like she's going to be a hoot and she'll be good at directing Margery. Diana Rigg's delivery of her lines is wonderfully acidic.

Tryion is still my favorite and dragging the chair to the end of the table just cracked me up..
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:18 PM   #163
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The Butcher's boy was swordfighting with Arya at Arya's request down by the river. Joffrey tried to kill him, Arya disarmed Joffrey and one of the direwolves bit Joffrey. The Butcher's boy ran away and later that night was shown laid over the saddle dead on a horse that the Hound was leading back into town. The Hound made some kind of quip that he wasn't much of an opponent.
Oh, THAT butcher's boy. Thanks for the memory refresher.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:18 PM   #164
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Favorite new character is the Queen of Thorns, Lady Olenna. She looks like she's going to be a hoot and she'll be good at directing Margery. Diana Rigg's delivery of her lines is wonderfully acidic.

Tryion is still my favorite and dragging the chair to the end of the table just cracked me up..
Yes, and just when you thought he was done, he dragged it some....more...
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:24 PM   #165
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Favorite new character is the Queen of Thorns, Lady Olenna. She looks like she's going to be a hoot and she'll be good at directing Margery. Diana Rigg's delivery of her lines is wonderfully acidic.
She seems to be every bit the equivalent of the dowager-countess from Downton Abbey. I half expect to see Maggie Smith when I hear her deliver her lines.

The casting on this show is nothing less than perfection.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:36 PM   #166
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Even if Littlefinger marries Lysa, her son Robyn(sp) is still master of the Vale I would think. I don't see how Littlefinger would leapfrog Robyn's claims.
After the marrage Littlefinger could always secretly help Robyn fly
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She seems to be every bit the equivalent of the dowager-countess from Downton Abbey. I half expect to see Maggie Smith when I hear her deliver her lines.

The casting on this show is nothing less than perfection.
You got me, I love Maggie Smith and am a fool for Downton Abbey.

The only casting I'm not feeling is Mance Rayder. Ciaran Hinds is doing nothing for me and I'm really sad about that.
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After the marrage Littlefinger could always secretly help Robyn fly
Question: Was the Vale property of Lord Arryn or the property of the Tully's?? I'm guessing that Riverrun is now the property of Edmure. Where is the property of Cat's uncle Brynden?
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Question: Was the Vale property of Lord Arryn or the property of the Tully's?? I'm guessing that Riverrun is now the property of Edmure. Where is the property of Cat's uncle Brynden?
The Vale is its own "kingdom" just like the Riverlands are.

The Blackfish has no lands but the Riverlands. He is related to the lord of the Riverlands, his nephew, Edmure Tully.

Lysa Arryn was married to the Lord of the Vale, Jon Arryn. Her son is Lord of the Vale but is too young to rule without assistance, so Lysa rules as a lord regent. She can be married and whoever she marries would become the lord regent. So if she marries Littlefinger he would essentially be Lord of the Vale until Lysa's son becomes of an age to rule himself.

So the question is, what will Littlefinger do with the little brat when he gets to the Vale?
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So the Vale was the property of Lord Arryn....Thanks
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:42 PM   #171
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So the Vale was the property of Lord Arryn....Thanks
A fun design fact. Jon Arryn was Lord of the Vale. The castle in the mountain there (the one with the hole in the floor) is called the Eyrie. Arryn's sigil is a bird.

Since Jon Arryn died, Ned Stark came to town to be Hand of the King, then Tyrion, but neither got around to redecorating, and the bedroom was still decorated with birds all over the walls. Cool touch.

I bet Tywin has got Lions now.
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...So the question is, what will Littlefinger do with the little brat when he gets to the Vale?
We'll see the little man FLY!
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I should think Littlefinger would want to do everything he could to protect the boy.
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If the boy dies before coming of age, the Lord of the Vale title would pass on to whoever is next in line of succession to the boy. Depending on the specific rules of succession of the Vale, that could mean a cousin or uncle or perhaps Lysa Arryn, but it would not be Littlefinger (that would be an outlandish rule of succession indeed).

So I'm not sure it would do him any good to have the kid offed right away. BUT, look out kid once ol' Twatbeard has had some time to get acclimated and has infiltrated the centers of power in the Vale such that he's able to usurp the title upon the boy's death. (Let's not forget that Lord Baelish is very familiar with the machinations and logistics of usurpation - he puppeteered Joffrey's win over good old Ned Stark.)
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Littlefinger's best long-term strategy would be knocking up Lysa with a son (or several), and then when he was sure the kid would survive, arranging an "accident" for Robin.
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Littlefinger's best long-term strategy would be knocking up Lysa with a son (or several), and then when he was sure the kid would survive, arranging an "accident" for Robin.
Yeah, and then he can keep knocking off his own oldest son (making sure he has at least one surviving) before he can come of age. Not sure even Littlefinger is that depraved.
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Yeah, and then he can keep knocking off his own oldest son (making sure he has at least one surviving) before he can come of age. Not sure even Littlefinger is that depraved.
Nah, in this world "long-term strategy" means making sure it's YOUR descendents who get the wealth and power, and not somebody else's.
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Why are we worrying about how Baelish will conspire to control the Vale? Joffrey already gave him Harrenhal, so if he's so worried about lands and titles, he's already got that area, and then he'll be acting lord of the Vale until Robyn is of age, so between those two he should be pretty happy. I'm guessing he'll be siphoning off money from the Vale's accounts to rebuild Harrenhal, so that when he loses his power in the Vale, he'll have something worth reigning over.
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Why are we worrying about how Baelish will conspire to control the Vale? Joffrey already gave him Harrenhal, so if he's so worried about lands and titles, he's already got that area, and then he'll be acting lord of the Vale until Robyn is of age, so between those two he should be pretty happy. I'm guessing he'll be siphoning off money from the Vale's accounts to rebuild Harrenhal, so that when he loses his power in the Vale, he'll have something worth reigning over.
Part of the point of this show is that those with power are never really satisfied to be "pretty happy" about the size of their empire. More, more, more.
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Why are we worrying about how Baelish will conspire to control the Vale? Joffrey already gave him Harrenhal, so if he's so worried about lands and titles, he's already got that area, and then he'll be acting lord of the Vale until Robyn is of age, so between those two he should be pretty happy. I'm guessing he'll be siphoning off money from the Vale's accounts to rebuild Harrenhal, so that when he loses his power in the Vale, he'll have something worth reigning over.
Harrenhal is an ancient ruin; the land surrounding, a pillaged wasteland. The title "Lord of Harrenhal" is purely symbolic. There's nothing there to lord over.
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