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Old 04-15-2013, 01:04 PM   #61
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Best line from the comments section of Alan Sepinwall's review:

"And that's why you don't throw a kid out of a window precipitating a chain of events that leads to a continent-spanning civil war."
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:13 PM   #62
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He's also the Jackass who sent an assassin to the Starks carrying Tyrion's dagger. It never made any sense that that "sellsword" didn't have his own sword.
Has that been established on the show? I don't recall that...
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:14 PM   #63
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Jeffy gets the news: "WHO CUT OFF MY FATHER'S HAND??..... Ooops."
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:16 PM   #64
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BTW - Did anyone notice the song they were playing during the closing credits? It was a punk rock version of the same song the men were singing when they were riding through the woods when jaimie and brienne were on the horse together tied up.
I was more wtf? about the closing credits song than I was about Jaimie's hand getting chopped off. Talk about jarring.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:19 PM   #65
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How many people expected Khalesi to start speaking the master's language?
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:41 PM   #66
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I'm pretty sure there is no way Dani is really going to give up her biggest Dragon.

Once Dani has her slave soldiers, I'm sure she will get that Dragon back.
Yeah, she was probably glad he asked for the biggest one--all the better to BBQ you with.

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He's also the Jackass who sent an assassin to the Starks carrying Tyrion's dagger. It never made any sense that that "sellsword" didn't have his own sword.
I don't think we can pin that one on him for sure. It's not likely he would have tried to pin it on Tyrion--the one person who cares about Tyrion is Jamie.

As someone said, I think Lysa is in a position to chose her own husband. She's aware that suitors will be lining up to get her land, and she knows and likes Littlefinger since he grew up with her and Cat. Plus she'll probably make him wait until she's sure he's on the winning side in the war.

Cristina said that the boy who has Theon is Ramsay Bolton--do we know that for sure? I pictured him uglier.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:37 PM   #67
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Cristina said that the boy who has Theon is Ramsay Bolton--do we know that for sure? I pictured him uglier.
No I don't I was just looking at casting and saying IT APPEARS that it's him. This is not confirmed!!
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:24 PM   #68
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He looked stumped.
He clearly didn't grasp the severity of the situation he was in when he reached out and made that promise.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:04 PM   #69
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I don't think we can pin that one on him for sure. It's not likely he would have tried to pin it on Tyrion--the one person who cares about Tyrion is Jamie.
I agree that Jamie wouldn't pin it on Tyrion, but have to say that his sister seems to care for him... So does his father for that matter.
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:25 PM   #70
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Loved Dany's comment of "he was NOT the last dragon".
However, it remains to be seen whether she possesses the power of the glow.


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How many people expected Khalesi to start speaking the master's language?
I was totally waiting for that. I fully expect her dragon to burn that guy to a crisp and then return to her and her new army.

I did not see the final scene coming at all. And I really liked how jarring the song at the end felt.

I had forgotten that Simon from Misfits had been cast for Game of Thrones, and for some reason I didn't recognize him last episode. So cool to see him! (Theon's rescuer).
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:39 PM   #71
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Littlefinger had a hand in the Stark assasination, too. He was the one who right off said he sold the dagger to Tyrion.

Did Tyrion ever address that directly at his trial?
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When Jamie said that Brienne is of the "Sapphire House of Tarth" was that all B.S.?

According to this she's the sole head of the House of Tarth.
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Brienne_of_Tarth
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:08 PM   #73
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According to this she's the sole head of the House of Tarth.
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Brienne_of_Tarth
No, according to that she's the sole HEIR of Tarth.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:51 PM   #74
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The show has never confirmed who ordered the assassination of Bran. There are several suspects, including all three Lannister children, quite possibly Joffrey himself, and possibly Littlefinger since the dagger was his and he is a weasel. Other than that we have no way of knowing.
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:55 PM   #75
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Littlefinger had a hand in the Stark assasination, too. He was the one who right off said he sold the dagger to Tyrion.

Did Tyrion ever address that directly at his trial?
He lost it to him betting on a joust. That's not really having a hand in an assassination.
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He lost it to him betting on a joust. That's not really having a hand in an assassination.
No, he SAID he lost it to him.
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I assumed it was negotiated via r-mail.
I watched the show a second time last night, and now I'm going back on this post. I don't think the Lysa/Littlefinger marriage has already been arranged. Tywin's mentioning it at the Council made it seem like Littlefinger is to go there and convince Lysa to marry him. LittleFinger then reassures Tywin that he and Lysa go a long way back and that she loves him.

Also curious that Lysa didn't make it to her father's funeral.
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Also curious that Lysa didn't make it to her father's funeral.
Curious how? She would have to leave her fortress.
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Curious how? She would have to leave her fortress.
I guess I thought the lands between the 2 places were Robb's territory. But upon further reflection, it makes sense that no place is safe unless you're travelling with an army (as Robb is doing).
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And remember, her son can't leave the Aerie because he'll be murdered if he does; and she can't leave without him because he hasn't been weaned.

She's made it very clear they're not going anywhere under any circumstances.

(You do know she's insane, right? )
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Yes, I remember that she is insane. I hate when shows make me NOT want to see naked breasts!

Is Blackfish a crow? he seemed dressed in the all-black. But then again, black and grey seem to be the only colors these people know (and no flowers, damn it!).
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:23 AM   #82
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I have to admit that being a non-booker and with the long layoff, I have no idea who some of these people are, like the guy who spent a lot of time with Lady Stark this episode.
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I have to admit that being a non-booker and with the long layoff, I have no idea who some of these people are, like the guy who spent a lot of time with Lady Stark this episode.
It was her father's brother. That was Blackfish (I have no idea what his real name is). The boy who kept missing the boat with the flaming arrows is Cat's brother (I'm assuming). I didn't know she had a brother. I assume that brother is now the Lord of House Tully.
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There are too many dark haired, scraggly beard, disheveled clothes wearing white guys on this show. They tend to look alike after a while. Maybe some of them should wear a brightly colored hat or something so I can keep them straight. Or name tags.
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It was her father's brother. That was Blackfish (I have no idea what his real name is). The boy who kept missing the boat with the flaming arrows is Cat's brother (I'm assuming). I didn't know she had a brother. I assume that brother is now the Lord of House Tully.
There was another woman there that looked like Cat. One more sister?
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There was another woman there that looked like Cat. One more sister?
Unless she had a speaking role, I have no idea (have not read the books). The only way I know some names is because I always have CC on for this show!
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At first I thought it's the crazy sister, but this one wasn't ugly enough.
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There are too many dark haired, scraggly beard, disheveled clothes wearing white guys on this show. They tend to look alike after a while. Maybe some of them should wear a brightly colored hat or something so I can keep them straight. Or name tags.
There's been a few times when I'd read the book and suddenly realize, "That's who that was on the show!"
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There are too many dark haired, scraggly beard, disheveled clothes wearing white guys on this show. They tend to look alike after a while. Maybe some of them should wear a brightly colored hat or something so I can keep them straight. Or name tags.
This!! Hahaha.

I was coming here today, while I love the show still, I'm at the point where there are SO many characters, I get TOTALLY lost. And very often they introduce characters that you have no idea who they are. I know all the main characters from the first season. After that, I know some of the second season characters. The new ones from this season? Totally gone. I'm completely confused about anything going on north of the wall. I'm sure at some point that is going to be important to the overall story, but for now, I just don't care about any of them.

I guess I missed something (I have to start watching this show when I'm more alert, but the problem is, I don't want to watch with my daughter around), but to me, it looked like they were chopping Jaime in the back, not his hand, but of course the hand makes more sense. I'm confused by his captors, are they loyal to the Starks or to Tywin? I assumed the Starks, until they took the girl to the back to be raped.
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