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Old 02-12-2013, 09:03 PM   #871
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There's no such thing as too much TV.
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Old 02-13-2013, 01:35 PM   #872
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At some point though stuff gets deleted. I have many terabytes of HD content that I've recorded since Summer 2001. I did recently delete around 4TB of that content from one of my unRAID servers since I had not watched it in a long time and most of it is available now from BD or from a streaming service in HD.

Although I still have more terabytes of HDTV content left than I deleted. But at least I'm making progress. I'm sure I'll delete more soon since I'm keeping getting close to the storage limit of 99TB I have between my WHS and my two unRAID servers.(unless I buy more hard drives and external eSata boxes to add to my second unRAID) And most of the content Ive been putting on them the last few years has been BD content instead of broadcast recordings.

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Old 02-13-2013, 02:11 PM   #873
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Sure, you could probably watch them online for free, but who wants to watch TV on a computer screen
A google tv device like the logitech revue allows you to watch free online video on your TV.
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If you have the resources, why not?
I think it would cause your hard drive to fail sooner than if you only recorded what you can watch.
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I think it would cause your hard drive to fail sooner than if you only recorded what you can watch.
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At some point though stuff gets deleted. I have many terabytes of HD content that I've recorded since Summer 2001. I did recently delete around 4TB of that content from one of my unRAID servers since I had not watched it in a long time and most of it is available now from BD or from a streaming service in HD.

Although I still have more terabytes of HDTV content left than I deleted. But at least I'm making progress. I'm sure I'll delete more soon since I'm keeping getting close to the storage limit of 99TB I have between my WHS and my two unRAID servers.(unless I buy more hard drives and external eSata boxes to add to my second unRAID) And most of the content Ive been putting on them the last few years has been BD content instead of broadcast recordings.

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HOLY ****. 99TB? It's not even possible to watch that much!!! And, while I'm commenting, I have to ask what stopped you from crossing the 100TB mark just to say that you did it?
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Wow, so that's almost .001 times as much as Data's (from Star Trek Next Generation) brain. (which supposedly holds 100,000 TB of memory).
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HOLY ****. 99TB? It's not even possible to watch that much!!! And, while I'm commenting, I have to ask what stopped you from crossing the 100TB mark just to say that you did it?
I have some more hard drives lying around that I could use, but I would need to buy more 4-bay, eSATA, eclosures that are port multiplier capable. So instead of spending more money for enclosures(I'm already using twelve enclosures with my WHS and unRAID), at some point I'll end up taking enclosures from my WHS and adding them to my second unRAID setup. Since the WHS with duplication only gives you 4TB of storage from 8TB of space(I use four, 2TB drives in each enclosure). But if I move them to my unRAID, I would have all 8TB in each enclosure available to use for storage.

Although another option would be to take the 4 bay enclosure I use with my TiVo Desktop server and use that with my unRAID instead. But then I wouldn't have dedicated local storage for TiVo Desktop.
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Although I still have more terabytes of HDTV content left than I deleted, at least I'm making progress. I'm sure I'll delete more soon...

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I'm starting to have a new problem with my own TiVo. Over the course of many years, I've been gaining about 1 pound per year, but over the years that can add up.

One thing that contributes to it is that most nights, after my son goes to sleep, I'll watch TV while eating popcorn. Well one week ago today, I was walking to the Grocery store to buy more popcorn, and as I passed by the library, I could see my reflection in the glass wall, and I didn't like how big my stomach looked. So I turned right around and aborted the trip and told myself I would no longer eat anything after dinner.

Even though I may feel a little hungry, I tell myself that soon I'll be asleep anyhow, wake up, and it'll be breakfast time. It's been working, and I'm already losing weight, but a side effect is that I seem to have lost the desire to watch TV. I've watched no TV at all since one week ago. Undoubtedly my TiVo is probably backing up. I really don't have many SPs, so it shouldn't take long to catch up if I so choose. I just need to decide how interested I still am in those SPs. I'm into the shows, so I'd like to see how they continue to develop, but nighttime has always been when I have time to watch TV. I think even when this thread started, about 10 years ago, I said as much.

Oh a great side effect though is that all my nighttime heartburn has vanished. I feel like I could live long term with this new eating strategy; I just hope that three months down the road I don't fall to temptation, but really I think I have a decent chance of sticking to this. I really don't think it's that big a sacrifice. (Even though popcorn is my most favorite food that exists on this planet - well when I go to the cinema, which only happens a few times a year, I bet I'll supremely appreciate the popcorn there.)
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I'm starting to have a new problem with my own TiVo. Over the course of many years, I've been gaining about 1 pound per year, but over the years that can add up.

One thing that contributes to it is that most nights, after my son goes to sleep, I'll watch TV while eating popcorn. Well one week ago today, I was walking to the Grocery store to buy more popcorn, and as I passed by the library, I could see my reflection in the glass wall, and I didn't like how big my stomach looked. So I turned right around and aborted the trip and told myself I would no longer eat anything after dinner.

Even though I may feel a little hungry, I tell myself that soon I'll be asleep anyhow, wake up, and it'll be breakfast time. It's been working, and I'm already losing weight, but a side effect is that I seem to have lost the desire to watch TV. I've watched no TV at all since one week ago. Undoubtedly my TiVo is probably backing up. I really don't have many SPs, so it shouldn't take long to catch up if I so choose. I just need to decide how interested I still am in those SPs. I'm into the shows, so I'd like to see how they continue to develop, but nighttime has always been when I have time to watch TV. I think even when this thread started, about 10 years ago, I said as much.

Oh a great side effect though is that all my nighttime heartburn has vanished. I feel like I could live long term with this new eating strategy; I just hope that three months down the road I don't fall to temptation, but really I think I have a decent chance of sticking to this. I really don't think it's that big a sacrifice. (Even though popcorn is my most favorite food that exists on this planet - well when I go to the cinema, which only happens a few times a year, I bet I'll supremely appreciate the popcorn there.)
Or you could eat less for dinner and then eat popcorn!
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HOLY ****. 99TB? It's not even possible to watch that much!!!
Oh, sure it is. Right now I only have about 2000 videos, some of them only 22 minutes long, and it fills up 13T. If most of the files were not h.264, that number would be closer to 18T. I've watched almost every video on the system at least once, and some of them many times. A 99T array is only about 5 times that size - perhaps 10,000 or so videos. Watching one movie and one series episode a day on average would run through 10,000 videos in only 14 years or so, and many people watch considerably more than one series episode and one movie a day on average.
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An entire movie a day is a LOT of media consumption, but you need enough media stored for 14 years?!?!? There's always going to be new media to acquire!
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an entire movie/day is a lot of media consumption? Even using a long estimate, that's 2 hrs/day. The average TV usage is MANY more hours than that a day of TV.
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an entire movie/day is a lot of media consumption? Even using a long estimate, that's 2 hrs/day. The average TV usage is MANY more hours than that a day of TV.
I might average an hour a day of actually sitting down and watching TV. Probably less. And even that seems like quite a bit.
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You're on the very low end of the Bell curve.
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You're on the very low end of the Bell curve.
I can think of a lot of people who have the TV on a lot like I sometimes do, but not many people who actually sit down in front of the TV that much...
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I can think of a lot of people who have the TV on a lot like I sometimes do, but not many people who actually sit down in front of the TV that much...
I'm sure you do, but that really is on the far end of TV viewing.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1162285

Even with the continuing decline of TV viewership, people still watch a LOT of TV every week.


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You're on the very low end of the Bell curve.
I thought the Bell curve measured telephone usage.


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I'm sure you do, but that really is on the far end of TV viewing.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1162285

Even with the continuing decline of TV viewership, people still watch a LOT of TV every week.

Is that counting when the TV is on, or when people are actually actively WATCHING it? If you count TV on, that would triple or more my count. And the line really starts to blur when you're downloading or streaming cable TV content on a computer, which for me is almost all secondary usage, like while folding laundry.
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An entire movie a day is a LOT of media consumption, but you need enough media stored for 14 years?!?!?
It's not the amount of media, it is the variety. Hypothetically, if one watches 8 hours of video a week, one could get by with only 8 hours worth of media for the week, but it would not allow for anything reasonable in terms of a selection from which to choose. Indeed, even with nearly 2000 videos, when my brothers, sister-in-law, and sister are visiting, it can be difficult to find even one that everyone likes and wants to watch.

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Not so much, really. Most of the stuff coming out is crap. The peak year in my collection was 1984, and by a very wide margin, most of the programs came out before 1990.

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I might average an hour a day of actually sitting down and watching TV. Probably less. And even that seems like quite a bit.
I don't watch anything like the 40 hours listed in the posts above, but I surely usually watch more than 7 hours a week, most weeks.
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Is that counting when the TV is on, or when people are actually actively WATCHING it?
I don't ever turn a TV on without watching it.
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It's not the amount of media, it is the variety. Hypothetically, if one watches 8 hours of video a week, one could get by with only 8 hours worth of media for the week, but it would not allow for anything reasonable in terms of a selection from which to choose. Indeed, even with nearly 2000 videos, when my brothers, sister-in-law, and sister are visiting, it can be difficult to find even one that everyone likes and wants to watch.

Not so mush, really. Most of the stuff coming out is crap. The peak year in my collection was 1984, and by a very wide margin, most of the programs came out before 1990.
Oooookay. There's Netflix, there's rentals, or there's maintaining an expensive and cumbersome hoard of content....
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What about news shows or Daily Show/ Colbert Report? Those shows don't really need to be watched... you can do other things while listening to them.
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Oooookay. There's Netflix
Which has almost nothing of interest not already on my server, and costs money.

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The content on the server cost a great deal less than renting, and rentals are rarely of interest. They are also a pain.

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It's not in the least cumbersome. The only maintenance occurs when the content is recorded and cataloged. Admittedly, I do at that point have to decide on the appropriate genres (comedy, drama, western, etc.) and I do choose to get the cover art at that point in time.

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I don't watch those... or listen to them. Even if I did, I would not attempt to do two things at once. That merely results in a poor outcome of both endeavors.
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Which has almost nothing of interest not already on my server, and costs money.
Sorry to break the news of math to you, but even if you expect your NAS to last a very, very generous 5 years, you'd have to have spent less than $8*60mo = $480 on your whole thing, which clearly is not the case. So that one's busted.


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It's not in the least cumbersome. The only maintenance occurs when the content is recorded and cataloged. Admittedly, I do at that point have to decide on the appropriate genres (comedy, drama, western, etc.) and I do choose to get the cover art at that point in time.


I don't watch those... or listen to them. Even if I did, I would not attempt to do two things at once. That merely results in a poor outcome of both endeavors.
Where did all that stuff come from?

You should try being more engaged in what's going on in the world... heck, watch the evening news if you want the boring version geared towards old people. Any of those aren't that interesting to sit there and watch, and it is easy to absorb everything they are saying while doing something else. Believe me, I wouldn't be sitting in from of the TV watching TWiT, John Stewart, Steven Colbert, Rachel Maddow, and Bill Maher every week. I don't have that kind of time. But I watch them while I'm doing laundry, dishes, preparing food, making lunch for the next day, etc.
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Sorry to break the news of math to you, but even if you expect your NAS to last a very, very generous 5 years, you'd have to have spent less than $8*60mo = $480 on your whole thing, which clearly is not the case. So that one's busted.
IIRC my NAS, including its 6 TB, cost somewhere around $400, and I would hope it lasts considerably longer than 5 years.
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If a show isn't watched for more than 5 years, do you honestly think your wife is going to go back into the archives on the NAS and watch it? Really?

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What did she say when you asked?
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IIRC my NAS, including its 6 GB, cost somewhere around $400, and I would hope it lasts considerably longer than 5 years.
I think you might want to update to note that you are talking about TB, not GB.
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