New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

[moyekj]

Originally Posted by mattack

I don't have proof, but I sure thought in the past (before I had done significant downloading), that I was able to transfer such a glitched recording BETWEEN my (now dead) OLED S3 and TivoHD.. but when trying to download to computer, it would be truncated. (This was before kmttg, or at least before I used it, IIRC… But AFAIK most of the tools use the same mechanism.. except perhaps transferring BETWEEN tivos.)

TTG downloads involve a LOT more than MRV/MRS which is why historically they have been so slow. There's decrypt, demux, remux, re-encrypt happening which can be pretty CPU intensive for the host TiVo and which glitches can break. MRV/MRS on the other hand are pretty much a straight byte copy from 1 TiVo to another.
Note that you can emulate an MRV transfer by adding &Format=video/x-tivo-raw-tts at the end of a download URL and chances are a show that otherwise would not download completely because of a glitch will work when downloaded that way (plus it downloads a lot faster). However it's academic and doesn't help you because you get an encrypted file that tivodecode, VRD, etc. can't decrypt.

[ThAbtO]

Originally Posted by moyekj

TTG downloads involve a LOT more than MRV/MRS which is why historically they have been so slow. There's decrypt, demux, remux, re-encrypt happening which can be pretty CPU intensive for the host TiVo and which glitches can break. MRV/MRS on the other hand are pretty much a straight byte copy from 1 TiVo to another.
Note that you can emulate an MRV transfer by adding &Format=video/x-tivo-raw-tts at the end of a download URL and chances are a show that otherwise would not download completely because of a glitch will work when downloaded that way (plus it downloads a lot faster). However it's academic and doesn't help you because you get an encrypted file that tivodecode, VRD, etc. can't decrypt.

AKA TS Stream?

[mattack]

So basically you're saying I'm screwed?

Or can I download them like that and at least put them back on a TiVo later?

[ThAbtO]

If you are thinking about downloading a glitched recording as 1 file, then there isn't a practical way and have it decode, encode, etc.

As a 2 file download, its possible.
Download to glitch point, then pause at a point a few frames past the glitch, refresh KMTTG, (don't forget to rename 1st file slightly, so it won't get overwritten.), check "Resume Download" and continue. (repeat as needed.)

On a Windows PC, the files can be rejoined using VideoReDo.

Not sure if its possible to re-join on a Mac.

[moyekj]

Originally Posted by ThAbtO

AKA TS Stream?

No. TS streams are "&Format=video/x-tivo-mpeg-ts". The other one as the name implies is closer to a raw TiVo stream. And no, those can't be transferred back to a TiVo using HMO/pyTivo/TiVo Desktop. (It's possible perhaps a PC masquerading as another TiVo such that it hands it off as an MRV transfer to a receiving TiVo may work, but that hasn't been done AFAIK).

[wmcbrine]

There's a program called "tivoserver" that fakes MRV, but it depends on the TiVo having had its encryption disabled. I don't think anyone's made it work with an unhacked TiVo.

[jeff92k7]

I have a simple kmttg question about encoding profiles. It is very possible that this question has been asked before, but I don't really want to sift through the last 158 pages of this thread.

I would like to figure out which encoding profile will work the best for the following:

1. keep same resolution - if 720p show, then encode to h.264 at 720p. If 1080i show, then encode h.264 at 1080p
2. if 1080i source, deinterlace to 1080p.
3. keeps audio at AC3 with original channel count (passthrough)

Output files will be loaded into iTunes, so they need to be m4v or mp4 files.

I have tried ff_h264_high_rate which keeps the resolution, but does not deinterlace 1080p content, and hb_appletv2 which kept the same resolution but compresses it so much that it's unwatchable. I couldn't tell if the handbrake preset properly deinterlaced the content due to the extreme compression. the whole 3.1GB 30 minute show compressed down to 300MB and was nothing but macroblocks due to the extreme compression

Any suggestions?

[bwperez]

This just started for me today after years of no issues. No comments on the show... it was the smallest file on my Tivo :-) I tried it on a second PC and from a second Tivo... same error.

<h2>Bad Request</h2>
Download failed to file: C:\Users\Brian\Programs\kmttg\v0P8c\Angelina Ballerina The Next Steps - Angelina and the Mini-Mouseling Angelinas Helpful Friend (11_11_2012).TiVo
Exit code: 0
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed

0 31 0 31 0 0 109 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 109
0 31 0 31 0 0 109 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0
0 39 0 39 0 0 105 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 105

[witwar]

neither of these programs will allow downloading right now. New tivo update kill 3rd party downloads?

[DougD]

I am getting the same problems as bwperez where it says <h2>bad request.<h2> etc.

[cherry ghost]

pyTiVo and TiVo Desktop won't transfer either

[moyekj]

Yes, all my downloads from Elite, Premiere and S3 OLED all have same "bad request" error. TiVo must have screwed something up related to our accounts and MAK #s. However, MRS & MRV still work for me though which is a little surprising... (may be a problem if any unit reboots).

[ThAbtO]

My S2 and S3 Tivos are downloading just fine today.

[ThAbtO]

Originally Posted by witwar

neither of these programs will allow downloading right now. New tivo update kill 3rd party downloads?

Originally Posted by DougD

not sure if it is related but I went to tivo.com and it said "still processing your activation" for the tivo I am trying to transfer files from. (I am getting the same problems as bwperez where it says <h2>bad request.<h2> etc. )

If these are newly activated Tivos in your tivo.com account, it may take up to 24 hrs to get a Media Access Key and get transfers enabled.

[moyekj]

Attempting a download via web browser the full error is:
<h2>Bad Request</h2>
session id missing

Never heard of this so called "session id" before...
Going to try a couple of phone home requests on my Premiere to see if that fixes it.

[ThAbtO]

Originally Posted by moyekj

Attempting a download via web browser the full error is:
<h2>Bad Request</h2>
session id missing

Never heard of this so called "session id" before...
Going to try a couple of phone home requests on my Premiere to see if that fixes it.

Could this problem be exclusive to Premieres only?

[moyekj]

Originally Posted by ThAbtO

Could this problem be exclusive to Premieres only?

As I mentioned above my S3 OLED unit has the problem too, so no. I think more likely it may depend on when your units last phoned home whether it works or not, or maybe some accounts got screwed up while others didn't. Not enough data points to draw conclusions at this point so just WAGs so far.

[witwar]

Originally Posted by ThAbtO

If these are newly activated Tivos in your tivo.com account, it may take up to 24 hrs to get a Media Access Key and get transfers enabled.

I have 2 premiere's and an S2 and all are over 2 years old. None of them will download anything. The premiers will however transfer from one to the other.

[moyekj]

Attempting to launch Netflix on my Premiere is giving me the stupid "V301" error which in the past only a reboot will resolve, so I'm going to cross my fingers and reboot once/if the net connect ever finishes...

[javabird]

I'm having the same issue today with my TivoHD using kmttg on Mac-- also unable to download with iTivo.

Interestingly, I tried using the Tivo Transfer tool I still have installed and it's working. Unfortunately it doesn't download HD.

[opieant]

It looks like curl isn't sending the session ID (sid) cookie to the TiVo. If I manually enter the sid cookie, the download starts. The sid is in the cookie jar, but it isn't being sent to the server on the TiVo.

[figmund]

I too noticed neither of my TiVo HD's were allowing downloads via kmttg today. I turned on the option "use java for downloads instead of curl" in the kmttg config and was then able to download shows.

[moyekj]

Originally Posted by figmund

I too noticed neither of my TiVo HD's were allowing downloads via kmttg today. I turned on the option "use java for downloads instead of curl" in the kmttg config and was then able to download shows.

Interesting. Works for me too. But the fact downloading with a browser doesn't work and that the curl download method that has worked for years no longer does implies there is something wrong still...

[ThAbtO]

Originally Posted by opieant

It looks like curl isn't sending the session ID (sid) cookie to the TiVo. If I manually enter the sid cookie, the download starts. The sid is in the cookie jar, but it isn't being sent to the server on the TiVo.

Originally Posted by figmund

I too noticed neither of my TiVo HD's were allowing downloads via kmttg today. I turned on the option "use java for downloads instead of curl" in the kmttg config and was then able to download shows.

This must be why I was able to download from my Tivos today, I use Java downloads via KMTTG and not curl.

Edit: I just tried a download by the firefox browser and got the SID error.
Edit2: This is what I got with KMTTG set to "Not use Java"

<h2>Bad Request</h2>
Download failed to file: i:\video\Lone Ranger - 059 -  - Drink of Water 2013.02.15-10.00.TiVo
Exit code: 0
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed

  0    31    0    31    0     0    248      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   248
  0    31    0    31    0     0    248      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0
  0    39    0    39    0     0    178      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   178
Lone Ranger - 059 -  - Drink of Water 2013.02.15-10.00.TiVo: Too many failed downloads, GIVING UP!!

With Java enabled, it works fine.

Edit 3: PyTivo gives me "Initiating Transfer, Please Wait", then Error 400.
PyTivo pushes work.

[wmcbrine]

Wow, even Series 2 is affected.

[notting]

Dumping the HTTP headers on mine showed it giving a session id cookie that was already expired (Sat Feb 16 00:00 GMT), so the client doesn't send it back to the Tivo. Hence, no session id.

Setting the clock back on the computer 'fixes' it.

[unitron]

Originally Posted by notting

Dumping the HTTP headers on mine showed it giving a session id cookie that was already expired (Sat Feb 16 00:00 GMT), so the client doesn't send it back to the Tivo. Hence, no session id.

Setting the clock back on the computer 'fixes' it.

Is that true for those of us running Desktop?

[unitron]

Originally Posted by notting

Dumping the HTTP headers on mine showed it giving a session id cookie that was already expired (Sat Feb 16 00:00 GMT), so the client doesn't send it back to the Tivo. Hence, no session id.

Setting the clock back on the computer 'fixes' it.

To anwer my own question, it fixes it for Desktop as well.

I just told one of my PCs that today is the 13th, and started a transfer and it's doing it and doing it quickly.

So congratulations, notting, you found the reason.

Now we need TiVo to tell us the reason for the reason, including why S2s and S3s are affected, and even more important, we need for them to fix it.

[sw10025]

Originally Posted by notting

Dumping the HTTP headers on mine showed it giving a session id cookie that was already expired (Sat Feb 16 00:00 GMT), so the client doesn't send it back to the Tivo. Hence, no session id.

Setting the clock back on the computer 'fixes' it.

Weird - of all the things I thought to try to fix the problem, I would never have thought of that, but that seems to have resolved the problem (I'm running Tivo Desktop Plus on a PC with two Series 2s).

[True Colors]

Originally Posted by figmund

I too noticed neither of my TiVo HD's were allowing downloads via kmttg today. I turned on the option "use java for downloads instead of curl" in the kmttg config and was then able to download shows.

Thanks figmund...... I tried your suggestion and it works perfectly.

kmttg comes to the rescue, once again

TC