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Old 12-08-2012, 05:35 PM   #61
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She's mean and she's stupid.
How is she mean? "Mean" to me indicates deliberate intent to hurt others. When has she done that?
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:07 PM   #62
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How is she mean? "Mean" to me indicates deliberate intent to hurt others. When has she done that?
She's mean in that she doesn't know the difference between being honest and being brutally honest. She's not nice to people, she's confrontational, and she's not respectful to other people when she has disagreements with them.

Her honesty isn't what people don't like. It's the fact that she can't be nice and honest that they don't like.

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Old 12-08-2012, 07:55 PM   #63
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Abi is a piece of work. How people around her avoid bitch-slapping her is a mystery to me.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:08 PM   #64
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It's basic Survivor strategy to take some to the finals that you think you can beat. Taking the best players is a self defeating strategy. I think you deserve to lose if you give the jury a chance to pick someone they think deserves to win more than you do. The only people who would vote for Abi are those who are too bitter to vote for someone like Malcolm, and I don't think we have any of those this season, other than Abi herself.
I don't think Colby has heard the end of his decision to take Tina to the finals rather than Keith. There have been plenty of people of who won, who really didn't deserve it, because the person sitting next to them couldn't get the votes. You're much better off sitting next to the villain at the end. It's not a guarantee, but it definitely improves your odds.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:41 AM   #65
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(...) she doesn't know the difference between being honest and being brutally honest. She's not nice to people, she's confrontational, and she's not respectful to other people when she has disagreements with them.
I agree that she is not "nice". But that doesn't make her "mean".
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:40 AM   #66
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I agree that she is not "nice". But that doesn't make her "mean".
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1. offensive, selfish, or unaccommodating; nasty; malicious: a mean remark; He gets mean when he doesn't get his way.
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1. the average of the numbers: a calculated "central" value of a set of numbers.

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Old 12-09-2012, 11:03 AM   #67
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Mean = malicious. She's not malicious.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:05 AM   #68
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She was kind of malicious in the way she and Pete treated RC.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:11 AM   #69
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Mean = malicious. She's not malicious.
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She was kind of malicious in the way she and Pete treated RC.
Exactly. I think her claws really came out with the way she turned on RC, and ever since she showed that side of her, she's not been shy to show it to everyone else, as well.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:13 AM   #70
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Mean = malicious. She's not malicious.
Mainy dictionaries disagree with you.

Merriam-Webster definition 5:

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a: penurious, stingy

b: characterized by petty selfishness or malice

c: causing trouble or bother : vexatious
She's vexatious. She's exhibited petty selfishness. Merriam-Webster says she's mean.

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1. unkind: unkind or malicious
"You hurt her feelings - that was a mean thing to do."
2. bad-tempered: behaving in an angry, often violent way
"He can be pretty mean at times."
She's been unkind. She's been bad-tempered. Bing says she's mean.

I think your personal defintion of the word requires intent. I think the normally accepted definition of the word does not.

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Old 12-09-2012, 04:54 PM   #71
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Mean = malicious. She's not malicious.
I disagree that she hasn't been malicious, but even if she hasn't is there a reason you are ignoring all of the other defining characteristics of "mean" that Abi has clearly and repeatedly displayed?
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:05 PM   #72
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(...) is there a reason you are ignoring all of the other defining characteristics of "mean" that Abi has clearly and repeatedly displayed?
I don't think being "troublesome" or "bad-tempered" is mean. I don't think "selfish" is mean. To me, "mean" is deliberately trying to hurt someone (or their feelings).
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I don't think being "troublesome" or "bad-tempered" is mean. I don't think "selfish" is mean. To me, "mean" is deliberately trying to hurt someone (or their feelings).
So you've just decided to go with your own definition rather than the actual definition?
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:00 PM   #74
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So you've just decided to go with your own definition rather than the actual definition?
That's how the vast majority of the world works, day to day.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:24 PM   #75
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That's how the vast majority of the world works, day to day.
But most don't admit to it so readily and proudly!


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That doesn't make you any less wrong.
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That doesn't make you any less wrong.
What was I wrong about?
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:13 PM   #78
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I'm "stealing" this from another forum because I think it's spot on.
Or maybe, just maybe, its genuine and sincere.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:36 AM   #79
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I'm curious as to how/why the survivors are dressed as they are. They don't always make good choices.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:43 AM   #80
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I'm curious as to how/why the survivors are dressed as they are. They don't always make good choices.
I think for the most part, the producers dress them that way.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:19 PM   #81
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I think for the most part, the producers dress them that way.
That's what I've heard as well and is why you don't see everybody dressed in REI gear.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:34 PM   #82
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I think for the most part, the producers dress them that way.
Remember, when there were three tribes (red, yellow, blue), each team member was dressed in some shade of their team color. I'm curious how many of the contestants actually had something of the appropriate color in their original wardrobe.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:49 PM   #83
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Remember, when there were three tribes (red, yellow, blue), each team member was dressed in some shade of their team color. I'm curious how many of the contestants actually had something of the appropriate color in their original wardrobe.
They have been doing that for a bunch of seasons now. My guess (and it's nothing but a guess) is that they tell them to bring multiple items and then choose for them what they will actually get on the show (e.g., they are told to bring 2 swimsuits, one that is blue/purple and one that is red/orange, and then when they arrive the producers go through their stuff and give them the suit that goes with their tribe colors)
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