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Old 12-06-2012, 12:46 PM   #31
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The 7/2 they did in the early seasons was just right for me.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:23 PM   #32
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Lisa and Skupin were all ready to vote out Malcolm before he won immunity. Why didn't they vote out Denise?
Because then Malcolm, Abi, and Carter would have voted out Skupin or Lisa.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:23 PM   #33
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Interesting that Abi didn't even really try to win Immunity challenge. Or at least try very hard.
I think this was part of her "I have an immunity idol" performance piece.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:26 PM   #34
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I hope that the producers saw what I saw, and invited Justice and Li'l Skupin to play the game next season.

That season was filmed before this season aired, so the other contestants would not know who they were.

I would like to watch Justice play this game.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:40 PM   #35
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I think it would be interesting to have family members of former (good) players on. So far I think the only one has been Hantz.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:27 PM   #36
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I hope that the producers saw what I saw, and invited Justice and Li'l Skupin to play the game next season.

That season was filmed before this season aired, so the other contestants would not know who they were.

I would like to watch Justice play this game.
That's a good idea - I would like to see him play too.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:52 PM   #37
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There's only been one time where they had an even number on the jury.
So they're overdue then.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:11 PM   #38
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I think it would be interesting to have family members of former (good) players on. So far I think the only one has been Hantz.
Actually, I think a whole season of nothing but family members of former players would be kind of fun.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:14 PM   #39
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Actually, I think a whole season of nothing but family members of former players would be kind of fun.
As long as it isn't like the family version of TAR. That was bad.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:28 PM   #40
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As long as it isn't like the family version of TAR. That was bad.
That sucked because of the kids. Survivor would do it right.

I would love to see a "loved ones" season almost as much as I would love to see a "first player voted out" season.
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Old 12-06-2012, 03:59 PM   #41
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That sucked because of the kids. Survivor would do it right.
I wish that the kids had not sucked the juice out of a family quad TAR; I planned on applying with my wife, her ex and his new wife.
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Old 12-06-2012, 04:19 PM   #42
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But as someone said before, if there was a final 2 and 1 of them was Abi it would be pretty boring. If it's 3 you can't just win by taking Abi with you. There's usually someone with no votes, and she would be it.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:11 PM   #43
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But as someone said before, if there was a final 2 and 1 of them was Abi it would be pretty boring. If it's 3 you can't just win by taking Abi with you. There's usually someone with no votes, and she would be it.
Yeah that's what they're trying to avoid. With 3 you have a better shot at it being competitive. With 2 it could be a landslide. But I don't remember too many finals being close regardless.
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Old 12-06-2012, 05:42 PM   #44
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Yeah that's what they're trying to avoid. With 3 you have a better shot at it being competitive. With 2 it could be a landslide. But I don't remember too many finals being close regardless.
Just edited my table above to include the final jury vote.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:22 PM   #45
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Just edited my table above to include the final jury vote.
And to add the other 7 finalists back into Season 8.


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Old 12-06-2012, 07:01 PM   #46
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Actually, I think a whole season of nothing but family members of former players would be kind of fun.
Yeah, that sounds like it could be interesting. With 20-some seasons to draw from, they ought be be able to make up a decent casting pool...
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:23 AM   #47
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So in the 10 seasons there have been 3 finalists 9 times the third one got no votes. Seems pointless.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:31 AM   #48
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It's not pointless, it keeps the winner of the last immunity challenge from cherry-picking their opponent in the final.
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:32 AM   #49
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So in the 10 seasons there have been 3 finalists 9 times the third one got no votes. Seems pointless.
I don't think it's pointless, they are trying to make sure that the final vote is not anti-climactic between, for example, Malcolm and Abi. Makes sense to me.
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It's semi-easy to drag along one piece of useless baggage to the final 2 or 3. Much more difficult to drag along 2 of them.
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:04 AM   #51
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Overall when there has been a final 2 the winner has received 71.7% of the votes. When there is a final 3 the winners have received 70.9% of the votes. Adding another finalist hasn't made a difference.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:17 AM   #52
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It's not such an easy comparison. In many cases where there was a final 3 the winner of the last immunity challenge would have taken the lowest vote-getter (of the 3) to a final 2 and received a much larger percentage.

I prefer a final 2, but I recognize the problems with that format.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:21 AM   #53
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I'm "stealing" this from another forum because I think it's spot on.

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I think Lisa planned her whole Survivor story arc before she ever left home. Her tearful sad beginning because she's just the most sensitive person ever, followed by lots of agonizing interviews about how it's harder for her to play the game than it is for anyone else because she's just so much nicer than most people, and finally: Tonight. The most dramatic reunion moment ever. Followed by the big star making epiphany where she throws her arms wide and shouts about how it's okay to play the game within the rules. And isn't it nice that the show is willing to help her out with soaring music and sunlight breaking through the clouds? Her Christian lecture tour must be sold out already.

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Old 12-07-2012, 11:24 AM   #54
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It's not such an easy comparison. In many cases where there was a final 3 the winner of the last immunity challenge would have taken the lowest vote-getter (of the 3) to a final 2 and received a much larger percentage.

I prefer a final 2, but I recognize the problems with that format.
Yeah that's a good point. I think a Lisa/Skupin/Malcom final could potentially be close. Or even Denise in place of one of those. But I'm resigned to the fact Abi makes the finale.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:29 AM   #55
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If Lisa makes it to the final, I have to assume that her "true identity" comes out at tribal. I wonder how that will affect the jury---will they be angry because this was withheld from them?

Of course, Penner could have already disclosed it by now...
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And to add the other 7 finalists back into Season 8.

D'oh! Fixed, again.
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If I were on the Jury and Abi makes it I would give my vote to her. I don't like the idea of taking the person who annoyed everyone to the end because they are not liked. If you cn vote out the B***h then you should. I think the strongest at the end should be there and then it comes down to who can sway the jury ie Amanda and Parvarti. Amanda was wonderfully liked but couldn't string together two coherent sentences when questioned by the jury. Parvarti wasn't liked but she was strong and played the game well and at the end convinced the jury to vote for her. At this point I want one of the other four to winn but if they don't vote out Abi then none of them deserve to win.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:24 PM   #58
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It's basic Survivor strategy to take some to the finals that you think you can beat. Taking the best players is a self defeating strategy. I think you deserve to lose if you give the jury a chance to pick someone they think deserves to win more than you do. The only people who would vote for Abi are those who are too bitter to vote for someone like Malcolm, and I don't think we have any of those this season, other than Abi herself.
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If I were on the Jury and Abi makes it I would give my vote to her. I don't like the idea of taking the person who annoyed everyone to the end because they are not liked. If you cn vote out the B***h then you should. I think the strongest at the end should be there and then it comes down to who can sway the jury ie Amanda and Parvarti. Amanda was wonderfully liked but couldn't string together two coherent sentences when questioned by the jury. Parvarti wasn't liked but she was strong and played the game well and at the end convinced the jury to vote for her. At this point I want one of the other four to winn but if they don't vote out Abi then none of them deserve to win.
But Abi isn't strong or cunning or smart or devious. She's not like Boston Rob or Richard Hatch. She hasn't played the game well or won challenges. She's mean and she's stupid.
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I think that she's just too honest.
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