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Old 11-14-2012, 02:08 PM   #31
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Plenty of bands would be fine without electricity. But the Monroe Republic is a place for villains and murderers, not artists and intellectuals. Maybe one of the other territories has leaders who don't rule with wanton cruelty and arbitrary violence; if I were a musician I'd rather live in one of them.
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Plenty of bands would be fine without electricity. But the Monroe Republic is a place for villains and murderers, not artists and intellectuals. Maybe one of the other territories has leaders who don't rule with wanton cruelty and arbitrary violence; if I were a musician I'd rather live in one of them.
Well, we know it's not California. What did Monroe call them? Heathens? Savages??
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How come nobody has managed to cross the Atlantic in a helium balloon? AFAIK, you don't need electricity for one of those, and it has been done.
We don't know that nobody has. We just haven't been shown anybody who has. It's a similar thing to the idea of sailing a tall ship across. We don't know if it's been done----only if it has, no word has apparently reached Monroe of it.

(I do think that ballooning across the Atlantic would be pretty treacherous. It's known for high winds and nasty weather and cold and nobody would be able to track you, so chances are excellent you'd sail away and vanish in the vastness of the ocean and no one would ever know if you made it across or not.)
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I don't know about pianos, but I was under the impression that violin strings had a "shelf life" of some sort.

Also, the last time I looked, string instruments are made of wood, so I would guess it got to a point where a lot people had to choose between doing without violin music or doing without fuel for the fire.
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Realistically, it's safe to say that if they haven't mentioned it on the show then no one has thought of it (i.e. the writers haven't thought of it).
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Realistically, it's safe to say that if they haven't mentioned it on the show then no one has thought of it (i.e. the writers haven't thought of it).
That's quite a stretch just on general principle IMO.
There will always be a lot of things that aren't mentioned but people are thinking about- they can't show us 24/7 thought bubbles for everyone on the show
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Welcome to the golden age of a cappella music!!!

A cappella Led Zeplin.....it's gonna be legend---










































ARY!!

(what? you wanted meaningful content in a post about a band tie-in on a stupid sci-fi show?)
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We don't know that nobody has. We just haven't been shown anybody who has. It's a similar thing to the idea of sailing a tall ship across. We don't know if it's been done----only if it has, no word has apparently reached Monroe of it.

(I do think that ballooning across the Atlantic would be pretty treacherous. It's known for high winds and nasty weather and cold and nobody would be able to track you, so chances are excellent you'd sail away and vanish in the vastness of the ocean and no one would ever know if you made it across or not.)
Same reason that we discussed about people sailing across the ocean....Why would you? What is there to gain? That is a luxury that would only be allowed to happen once everybody's basic needs are all met. The risk vs reward just isnt there.
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Same reason that we discussed about people sailing across the ocean....Why would you? What is there to gain? That is a luxury that would only be allowed to happen once everybody's basic needs are all met. The risk vs reward just isnt there.
If I was like dead Brit chick and my family was on the OTHER side of the ocean, I'd darned well make an effort sometime within those 15 years. Yeah, you might die, but you might die here too (like she did) so there's not nearly so much to lose.
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That's quite a stretch just on general principle IMO.
There will always be a lot of things that aren't mentioned but people are thinking about- they can't show us 24/7 thought bubbles for everyone on the show
For other shows this would be the case. This show is not that deep and is not being written in a science fiction style, so I find it unlikely that they have thought of most of the things we discuss in these threads. They appear to be motivated mostly by swashbuckling and adventure.
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Another thought---they show us 7 amulets and tell us there are 12. Logically, the remaining 5 must be overseas. This at least implies that there's some reason that the amulets need to be spread over a wide area to do whatever it is they do (or keep them from doing whatever it is they do). Reuniting the amulets in one location could be a VERY good incentive to risk a trip like that.

Cynic Polcamilla says that the show probably doesn't have the budget to go all Around the World in 180 Days on us.
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They appear to be motivated mostly by swashbuckling and adventure.
There hasn't been nearly so much swash and buckling lately. Has anyone even TRIED to swing on a chandelier in the last 4 episodes? Mostly they seem to keep getting distracted by hastily rescuing anyone who wanders into a quarter mile radius of them.
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If I was like dead Brit chick and my family was on the OTHER side of the ocean, I'd darned well make an effort sometime within those 15 years. Yeah, you might die, but you might die here too (like she did) so there's not nearly so much to lose.
It seemed to me like she looked all over for someone to sail her on a ship in her flashback episode... no one would sail her. Unless she wanted to swim, I don't really know what her options were.
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If I was like dead Brit chick and my family was on the OTHER side of the ocean, I'd darned well make an effort sometime within those 15 years. Yeah, you might die, but you might die here too (like she did) so there's not nearly so much to lose.
Yeah, but even if she thought about balloons, she wouldn't have the know-how to make one or the helium to blow it up. Or the money to pay anyone who did, if she could find anyone.
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There hasn't been nearly so much swash and buckling lately. Has anyone even TRIED to swing on a chandelier in the last 4 episodes? Mostly they seem to keep getting distracted by hastily rescuing anyone who wanders into a quarter mile radius of them.
But they use swords to do so! Swords and explosions and never anything in-between. It would have been nice to at least see them carrying the unstable dynamite so we could have the tension of whether or not Aaron is actually Leslie Arzt under that beard.
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But they use swords to do so! Swords and explosions and never anything in-between. It would have been nice to at least see them carrying the unstable dynamite so we could have the tension of whether or not Aaron is actually Leslie Arzt under that beard.


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It seemed to me like she looked all over for someone to sail her on a ship in her flashback episode... no one would sail her. Unless she wanted to swim, I don't really know what her options were.
I think I missed that episode. I'd go back and see if it's on-demand but....I don't really care.
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I think I missed that episode. I'd go back and see if it's on-demand but....I don't really care.
Then you must also have missed the discussion around why they would actually tear up all the ships for firewood and why ships were suddenly made with firewood in the show. Shame.
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It was quite a few episodes back... I dunno if it would still be there. She was in Seattle during the blackout, traveled to the East Coast trying to find a way to get back to England, no one would take her, and was about to off herself by a lake when Ben found her.
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Yeah, but even if she thought about balloons, she wouldn't have the know-how to make one or the helium to blow it up. Or the money to pay anyone who did, if she could find anyone.


Dude----haven't you ever watched The Wizard of Oz?? They're called hot AIR balloons because you fill the balloon with air that has been heated, not with helium.

(Also, there's a helium shortage right now---you can't even get party balloons filled, let alone giant person-transporting ones. Not that this has anything to do with the show....)
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Then you must also have missed the discussion around why they would actually tear up all the ships for firewood and why ships were suddenly made with firewood in the show. Shame.
Nah....I read the TCF thread.
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I wonder if anybody tried to set up some kind of mail service or newspapers? Like post offices in big towns and pony express going from one to another? How would anyone know if someone crossed the ocean or not? Unless they came back... Can a raven fly that far? 15 years is a long time--they should be better organized.
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I wonder if anybody tried to set up some kind of mail service or newspapers? Like post offices in big towns and pony express going from one to another? How would anyone know if someone crossed the ocean or not? Unless they came back... Can a raven fly that far? 15 years is a long time--they should be better organized.
And yet they seem to be able to dig up random family members of people they want to blackmail at a moment's notice.
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I wonder if anybody tried to set up some kind of mail service or newspapers? Like post offices in big towns and pony express going from one to another? How would anyone know if someone crossed the ocean or not? Unless they came back... Can a raven fly that far? 15 years is a long time--they should be better organized.
Ravens make terrible messenger birds. Better to stick with pigeons.

Anyways, the problem with ALL messenger birds (the ones NOT in fantasy novels, anyway) is that they really only know how to fly "home" so the only way you can send message reliably with them is to hand-carry one from its home to someplace else, attach the message, then release it.
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And yet they seem to be able to dig up random family members of people they want to blackmail at a moment's notice.
I want to know what currency standard they're using for bribes----Monroe Bux?
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This really isn't related to Revolvolution at all but I LOVE this article and it comes in handy when discussing Build-Your-Own Economies:

http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/pies.htm --- Economics of Pern (from the Anne McCaffrey book series)
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This really isn't related to Revolvolution at all but I LOVE this article and it comes in handy when discussing Build-Your-Own Economies:

http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/pies.htm --- Economics of Pern (from the Anne McCaffrey book series)
That is a fun article, though I am pretty sure I could feel a pocket protector growing on my shirt as I was reading it. In the world of Revolution, the currency of the Monroe Republic appears to be largely binary in nature. Either we kill someone you care about (i.e. you don't get paid) or we don't (you get paid).

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That is a fun article, though I am pretty sure I could feel a pocket protector growing on my shirt as I was reading it. In the world of Revolution, the currency of the Monroe Republic appears to be largely binary in nature. Either we kill someone you care about (i.e. you get paid) or we don't (you don't get paid).
Nate was getting beat up for "bribing a stable boy". Yeah, MONROE isn't bribing anyone, but clearly others are....and "Give me what I want and I won't kill you" is technically more bullying than bribing.
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Nate was getting beat up for "bribing a stable boy". Yeah, MONROE isn't bribing anyone, but clearly others are....and "Give me what I want and I won't kill you" is technically more bullying than bribing.
Yeah but did he bribe the stable boy with "currency" or just some sort of item that is worth a certain number of MOSYLOs ("monroe spares your loved one"s) if sold on the open market?
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I thought we saw Nora bribing the bridge guard with coins in the beginning of the episode.
Perhaps they were gold.
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