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Old 09-05-2012, 11:47 PM   #481
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Did anyone try this when their Tivo is connected wirelessly (using the TiVo wifi dongle)? I know it's "not supported" - just wondered if it worked or not.
Mine is going through a HomePlug network, which is slower then 802.11n, and it works fine. Not a direct analog, but I'm betting it'll work OK if you're just streaming one show at a time.

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Old 09-06-2012, 12:10 AM   #482
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Just to confirm, this cannot stream to the Internet a la sling box?
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:26 AM   #483
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Just to confirm, this cannot stream to the Internet a la sling box?
No local streaming only. Unless you setup some sort of VPN so your iPad appears as if it's on the local network. However for that to work you'd need a pretty good upload speed on your internet connection because it can not dynamically adjust the quality to match bandwidth. It just streams in the format it streams and you need enough bandwidth to handle it.

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Old 09-06-2012, 02:37 AM   #484
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The TiVo.com/stream page is now active and the home page has been updated to feature the Stream. Slightly misleading, as the target is currently iOS devices only (at least for now)
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Old 09-06-2012, 05:19 AM   #485
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Hands-on review plus video

TechOfTheHub presents his hands-on review.

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Old 09-06-2012, 06:35 AM   #486
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Used my Stream to watch the (time-shifted) football game on my iPad last night. In general, I am very pleased with the experience. The video quality is excellent, I only had a couple momentary pauses while watching the video (could very well have been a glitch in the original video material), and it just came across as a very professional implementation for a 1.0 release of something this complicated.

I did have a few crashes of the app, mostly when exiting the video viewing screen. Restarting the app was quick, and it picked up easily.

Using the right swipe to do 30-second skip and left swipe to do 8-second rewind is really nice. Someone mentioned above that they thought the right-swipe for 30-second skip was backwards -- I disagree, you just swipe in the direction you want to go on the time bar.

Nice job Tivo!!
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:00 AM   #487
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No local streaming only. Unless you setup some sort of VPN so your iPad appears as if it's on the local network. However for that to work you'd need a pretty good upload speed on your internet connection because it can not dynamically adjust the quality to match bandwidth. It just streams in the format it streams and you need enough bandwidth to handle it.

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Perhaps you know, but I have a 15MB upload....you think that'd work assuming I can get a vpn going?
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:25 AM   #488
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Have you tried deleting the app off of the iPhone/iPad/iPod and reinstalling it?
Yup, no change. I really wish these things were available in Best Buy already so that I could just go buy a new one. I ordered a new one yesterday from TiVo, and was told it would still ship via overnight, so I'm hoping I'll have a new one tomorrow. If it ships ground, I'll probably have to wait a week. Maybe they'll be in Best Buy by then.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:54 AM   #489
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A question for those that already have a Tivo Stream and multiple Tivos.

From the Tivo IOS app, is it possible to initiate a transfer from another Tivo (a non premier) to a Tivo premier and watch it via Tivo Stream?

The premier has most of the shows the family watches. The other S3 Tivos have shows that I would watch via Tivo Stream on the Tivo app. I know Tivo Stream can not communicate to S3 Tivos, but I want to route the show via the S4 to Tivo Stream.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:31 AM   #490
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Does best buy have them yet? It's not on their website.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:42 AM   #491
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Does best buy have them yet? It's not on their website.
the product just came out today so i doubt best buy has it yet
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:45 AM   #492
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the product just came out today so i doubt best buy has it yet
TiVo PR released today indicated, "coming soon to most Best Buy and Magnolia Home Theater stores".

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tivo-l...120000424.html

PS) this is the first time in a long-time I've seen TiVoGuard mentioned.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:47 AM   #493
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A question for those that already have a Tivo Stream and multiple Tivos.

From the Tivo IOS app, is it possible to initiate a transfer from another Tivo (a non premier) to a Tivo premier and watch it via Tivo Stream?

The premier has most of the shows the family watches. The other S3 Tivos have shows that I would watch via Tivo Stream on the Tivo app. I know Tivo Stream can not communicate to S3 Tivos, but I want to route the show via the S4 to Tivo Stream.
It does not do that. All it can do is stream or sideload a show TO an iDevice, not another TiVo.
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:51 AM   #494
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It does not do that. All it can do is stream or sideload a show TO an iDevice, not another TiVo.
Reread what he's asking. He's asking if you can transfer a show from a S3 to a Premiere and then from there stream it to the Stream. Based on what I've read, I believe the answer is yes.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:00 AM   #495
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Reread what he's asking. He's asking if you can transfer a show from a S3 to a Premiere and then from there stream it to the Stream. Based on what I've read, I believe the answer is yes.
He said something about initiating the transfer from the iOS app, in other words using it to move the recording and then have the Stream start up with it. I'm pretty sure that's all not gonna work.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:02 AM   #496
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Reread what he's asking. He's asking if you can transfer a show from a S3 to a Premiere and then from there stream it to the Stream. Based on what I've read, I believe the answer is yes.
The answer is absolutely yes - I tried that yesterday. You can also transfer a movie from an external library to the Premier and initiate a stream. Also both the stream and sideload can be intiated while the transfer is still active.

So in other words you can be MRV'ing a video from an S3 and sideloading it to your TiVo at the same time!
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will someone please try it with a VPN outside the network!!!
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will someone please try it with a VPN outside the network!!!
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:21 AM   #499
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Great Streamer; horrible downloads

Wow. Really impressed with its streaming ability. Pretty flawless quality. I've had no trick play issues (although I haven't watched much). I need to do more testing, but after setting up my wife's phone, it kicked me out on my phone (maybe it was just because of the initial setup on a 2nd device).

Now to the problem. I tried downloading at best quality and standard. Absolutely horrible. In the best quality, there are "shifted video lines" really distorting the video. On standard quality, it is simply more "shifted video lines". I can't imagine every watching downloaded shows like that. I'll try again tonight. I'm not sure what "best" really means. Ideally, there'd be 3 choices: completely uncompressed video, slightly compressed and highly compressed. I know it would be large, but I'd like the choice.

Does anyone else have the "shifted video lines" problem with downloads?
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The answer is absolutely yes - I tried that yesterday. You can also transfer a movie from an external library to the Premier and initiate a stream. Also both the stream and sideload can be intiated while the transfer is still active.

So in other words you can be MRV'ing a video from an S3 and sideloading it to your TiVo at the same time!
Thank you. I placed my order on tivo.com.
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Has anyone compared Tivo Stream and play-back performance on older iPad gen1 vs newer iPads? Tivo Desktop plus conversion files play fine on a iPad gen1, but I don't think that means much since the Tivo App is doing the playback.
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will someone please try it with a VPN outside the network!!!
I have tried it using a VPN connection from my ipad to my network and it does not work...
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Has anyone compared Tivo Stream and play-back performance on older iPad gen1 vs newer iPads? Tivo Desktop plus conversion files play fine on a iPad gen1, but I don't think that means much since the Tivo App is doing the playback.
I tested it on an iPad 1, iPad 2 and an early iPod... Works well on all platforms.
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Wow. Really impressed with its streaming ability. Pretty flawless quality. I've had no trick play issues (although I haven't watched much). I need to do more testing, but after setting up my wife's phone, it kicked me out on my phone (maybe it was just because of the initial setup on a 2nd device).

Now to the problem. I tried downloading at best quality and standard. Absolutely horrible. In the best quality, there are "shifted video lines" really distorting the video. On standard quality, it is simply more "shifted video lines". I can't imagine every watching downloaded shows like that. I'll try again tonight. I'm not sure what "best" really means. Ideally, there'd be 3 choices: completely uncompressed video, slightly compressed and highly compressed. I know it would be large, but I'd like the choice.

Does anyone else have the "shifted video lines" problem with downloads?
I have not noticed any artifacts... I transfered a full HD movie in best quality (~2GB), a 1 hour HD television show in best quality (~1GB) and a 1 hour HD television show in standard quality (~650k)

I cannot personally tell the difference between the best quality and the standard quality on my iPad2. The video quality is fantastic.
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I have tried it using a VPN connection from my ipad to my network and it does not work...
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bummer, thanks.
For a VPN to work it would need to support mDNS and Bonjour.

This means that your IP address given out on your network would have to be on the same subnet as your Tivo. It also means that your VPN server would need to correctly handle multicast and arp requests from the VPN client. The VPN Client would have to appear like any other device on the local LAN.

The only non-commercial solution I have seen that may be able to do this is StrongSwan (using the dhcp and farp plugins). OpenVPN may have similar functionality, but as it doesn't work with iDevices (non-Jailbroken) I haven't looked.

This will never work with PPTP.
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Wow. Really impressed with its streaming ability. Pretty flawless quality. I've had no trick play issues (although I haven't watched much). I need to do more testing, but after setting up my wife's phone, it kicked me out on my phone (maybe it was just because of the initial setup on a 2nd device).

Now to the problem. I tried downloading at best quality and standard. Absolutely horrible. In the best quality, there are "shifted video lines" really distorting the video. On standard quality, it is simply more "shifted video lines". I can't imagine every watching downloaded shows like that. I'll try again tonight. I'm not sure what "best" really means. Ideally, there'd be 3 choices: completely uncompressed video, slightly compressed and highly compressed. I know it would be large, but I'd like the choice.

Does anyone else have the "shifted video lines" problem with downloads?
I've had the "shifted video lines" issue on streamed content but not on downloaded. It occurred after repeatedly doing 30-second skips and goes away when I stopped the video and restarted. I got the impression I was overloading the Stream and it was going into some kind of reduced quality mode. It's worrying that it can happen on downloads because as far as I can tell the downloads are higher quality than the streamed video and have all worked for me other than the time it takes to download sometimes being longer than expected.
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I have not noticed any artifacts... I transfered a full HD movie in best quality (~2GB), a 1 hour HD television show in best quality (~1GB) and a 1 hour HD television show in standard quality (~650k)

I cannot personally tell the difference between the best quality and the standard quality on my iPad2. The video quality is fantastic.
Difference is a bit more noticeable on the iPad 3, due to the higher resolution and higher contrast screen (I would imagine).
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I have not noticed any artifacts... I transfered a full HD movie in best quality (~2GB), a 1 hour HD television show in best quality (~1GB) and a 1 hour HD television show in standard quality (~650k)

I cannot personally tell the difference between the best quality and the standard quality on my iPad2. The video quality is fantastic.
Those are the sizes after transfer? Any idea how that compares to the size using KMTTG with the iPad encode?
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