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Old 09-01-2012, 10:47 AM   #31
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I do believe USA is number one in entrepreneurship
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:54 AM   #32
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:18 AM   #33
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Grabbing popcorn and watching this thread with great interest.

For me, it all boils down to everyday life, which for me is excellent here in Canada. Except for the crappy winter weather and the relatively higher cost of living (compared to the USA), we've got it really really good here.

P.S. We have poutine.
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:03 PM   #34
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Grabbing popcorn and watching this thread with great interest.

For me, it all boils down to everyday life, which for me is excellent here in Canada. Except for the crappy winter weather and the relatively higher cost of living (compared to the USA), we've got it really really good here.

P.S. We have poutine.


Actually, I know a place in NYC that makes poutine. They specialize in fries from around the world. Still....
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Old 09-02-2012, 12:06 PM   #35
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I was annoyed by the whole premise of that first scene in "The Newsroom". I wish another student had asked Will McAvoy (AKA Aaron Sorkin) to name a more consequential nation in the last 100 years.
That was 10 episodes ago.

And the full discussion involves the phrase "we used to be". We have changed.

Most consequential right this minute? I would say China.

The US is on the wane. If we continue to be idiots about it, we will become a second tier nation. It's fixable. But not by jingoistic cheers chanting "We're number 1", any more than your local sports team wins a championship based on the strengths of the cheering.

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Old 09-02-2012, 06:32 PM   #36
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Name a country which has been more consequential than America.
Weren't a number of countries in Europe the whole reason America exists?
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:43 PM   #37
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I think any nation that brags about being "the greatest nation on Earth" loses "greatest nation on Earth" points...

It's kind of like being cool. If you have to say it, you ain't it.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:45 AM   #38
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:45 PM   #39
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Hi there. I'm Australian. You all lose.

If I had to choose, I'd choose Australia as the best country (for me). It's super expensive (relative to Canuckistan), but the people are nice, the climate is great, and the cities are nice and modern. Too bad I'm too old to qualify for immigration.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:53 PM   #40
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When I visited Australia a couple years ago, I almost felt like I was in the U.S. in a parallel universe in which it had seceded from the U.K. in 1876 instead of 1776.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:37 PM   #41
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I was annoyed by the whole premise of that first scene in "The Newsroom". I wish another student had asked Will McAvoy (AKA Aaron Sorkin) to name a more consequential nation in the last 100 years.
But, you understand, it's a TV show and the entire point was to pose exactly the question that was asked, not some other, different question. The idea was to put a face/voice to a certain kind of jingoistic, blinders-on belief without question, that is perhaps not relying on quite as much factual ground as it once did.
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You know, it occurred to me that "the most consequential nation in the last 100 years" is most likely Germany. They did precipitate two world wars, after all, conquered most of Europe, and have one of the strongest economies today, propping up that same Europe. In addition, their engineers enabled the space race, and the landing on the moon.

That's a pretty consequential nation.
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You know, it occurred to me that "the most consequential nation in the last 100 years" is most likely Germany. They did precipitate two world wars, after all, conquered most of Europe, and have one of the strongest economies today, propping up that same Europe. In addition, their engineers enabled the space race, and the landing on the moon.

That's a pretty consequential nation.
I was thinking about Germany also. If it weren't for them trying to conquer the world we probably wouldn't have the atomic bomb. At least not as soon as we did.
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Old 10-15-2012, 04:56 PM   #44
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You do realize this is just a TV show, right?
How can you say 'just a TV show'??!!

To me this show is more real than you are, as it effects our nation because it gets more people thinking about important matters.

'TV shows' are what most Americans spend a large percentage of their free time.
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