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Old 08-28-2012, 07:38 PM   #181
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Does anyone know if the iPhone/iPad app will support AirPlay? It would be awesome to stream to the iPad and then send it to the Apple TV to watch on the big screen.

And who knows, the Apple TV may be getting an app store of its own in the near future. A TiVo app directly on the Apple TV that taps into Stream? That would be even more awesome.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:55 PM   #182
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I received an email from Tivo today at 1:30PM "Congratulations, you're eligible to pre-order the NEW TiVoŽ Stream!" but I do not have an I Phone, I Pad etc. so I wish this was Android compatible. Oh well, I am glad Tivo is still an innovative company!
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:36 PM   #183
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These are the rules for CableCARD, they have nothing to do with the specific providers or channels. Basically the flag marks the show "copy once", which means only one copy of the program can exist at a given time. They can stream the program to another room or device because they are not making a copy, but they can not move it to another device or it violates the CableCARD rules. They might be able to move the show, rather then copy it, but I've never seen a clear answer if that's OK or not. And even if it were TiVo doesn't currently have that ability so they'd have to add it.
This is tangential, especially since it's not Tivo nor CableCARD related, but other recorders DO support the copy once flag. For example, some recordings on my XS32 are copy once, so I can move them to a DVD-RAM, but at the same time, it deletes the original from the hard drive.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:59 PM   #184
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But then can't you rip it off that DVD-RAM and do whatever you want with it?
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:00 PM   #185
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:12 AM   #186
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There is a very positive review in this morning's Wall Street Journal on the TiVo stream. Since the Journal has a pay wall around its content I won't link the article. Perhaps the most newsworthy item was that Android compatibility is coming. TiVo's earnings call is this afternoon so hopefully we will get more information on the Stream, Mini and VOD rollout among other things.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:22 AM   #187
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There is a very positive review in this morning's Wall Street Journal on the TiVo stream. Since the Journal has a pay wall around its content I won't link the article. Perhaps the most newsworthy item was that Android compatibility is coming. TiVo's earnings call is this afternoon so hopefully we will get more information on the Stream, Mini and VOD rollout among other things.
http://allthingsd.com/20120828/tivo-...off-the-couch/
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:46 AM   #188
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I am wondering if you can queue transfers or if you must do one at a time.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:57 AM   #189
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..streams content from your TiVo to up to four mobile devices in your home at high-definition quality..
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..while another one-hour episode took 28 minutes to download onto my iPad in “Best” definition (one gigabyte)...
So is the stream sending HD content to the mobile device or a lower resolution of the HD content.?

It sounds like a lower defintiion version. WHich for a small device makes sense, but he specifically says it's HD at the beginning.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:42 AM   #190
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So is the stream sending HD content to the mobile device or a lower resolution of the HD content.?

It sounds like a lower defintiion version. WHich for a small device makes sense, but he specifically says it's HD at the beginning.
I suspect it has to do with the ambiguity around with the words "HD", "best" and "standard". The iPhone 4s screen resolution is 960x640 and for the iPad it's 2048x1536. I would guess that at the "best" setting we are getting a stream/file that is at the maximum resolution of the receiving device. Is 960x640 "HD" or not? Of course not on a 40+ inch TV, but at 326 dpi on the iPhone screen how many more pixels do you need?
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:06 AM   #191
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I am a little disappointed with the pricing... i thought 99 would have been a better price point
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:11 AM   #192
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I am a little disappointed with the pricing... i thought 99 would have been a better price point
Pricing at $99 to $129 puts it in the almost impulse purchase territory. I think it comes down to economics for TiVo. They don't want to subsidize the Stream (or the Mini) for that matter. I suspect $99 would have been pushing that equation but I do think they would have still been profitable at $99. This is most likely the early adopter tax and we will see $99 sales on the Stream.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:22 AM   #193
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I have no quibble with the price. If they get it going with android or if kmttg gets updated to work with it, I'll likely order one then. Perhaps by then, mainstream retail channels like Amazon will be discounting it.

As I cannot make use of ANY of its functions as released. No sense in ordering now.

They really missed the boat releasing this without Android support.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:54 AM   #194
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I'm guessing that they have figured out through market research that iOS users out there are more eager to jump on the bandwagon with a first generation product at first generation pricing than android users, in general. I know that there have been studies released that iOS users are way more likely to purchase impulse apps than android users. So, dedicate the resources first where they will have more initial sales.

I'm waiting until it will work with my xoom, but can't wait for it to be available.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:27 AM   #195
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Ordered mine. I've really been looking forward to the Stream. We only have one TV in the house but we have two iPads and several iPhones. In will be nice to have additional screens in other rooms without adding new TV's.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:28 AM   #196
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Just ordered mine based on this post (didn't do anything on FB) and they asked how I found out and told them I got the email via Facebook.

All good - thanks for the post guys!
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:46 AM   #197
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I'm all over this thing... but I'm going to wait on reviews and user feedback on how it actually performs.

$129 is a little more than I'd like to pay, but it's not high enough to turn me off.

I'm looking forward to eventually getting my house down to one TiVo box and streaming out to all of the other TVs/devices. I'm tired of transfering shows and always thinking about whats on what TV.

"Did I watch this upstairs? Do I need to delete this? Where is ______?"

Juggling 3 TiVos is a pain. (firstworldproblems)

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Old 08-29-2012, 10:46 AM   #198
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I just placed my order -- did not enter the "contest".

I'm actually quite happy with the price -- at $129, they're not making much money on this at the quantities they'll be selling.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:18 AM   #199
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Just so some of you know...this looks like it requires your TiVo to be plugged in a Ethernet port, no wireless.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:31 AM   #200
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Just so some of you know...this looks like it requires your TiVo to be plugged in a Ethernet port, no wireless.
That is correct - it uses MRS streaming as the basis and either a MOCA or Ethernet connect is "required".

I put that in quotes, because I am not actually sure that it absolutely will not work (disabled) for wireless. But it is definately unsuported wirelessly...

If you do not have an ethernet drop at your TV, definately look into MOCA - you will apreciate it.
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If you do not have an ethernet drop at your TV, definately look into MOCA - you will apreciate it.
I don't think the Stream has MOCA built in, so you will need a separate MOCA adapter if you want to go that route.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:08 PM   #202
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Will the Tivo Stream work with an Cisco Adapter Box? I have TWC (Torrance, CA) and have had dropped or missing channel error messages for over a year now. I also have a claim filed with the FCC and they are investigating it for the last year as well.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:26 PM   #203
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I don't think the Stream has MOCA built in, so you will need a separate MOCA adapter if you want to go that route.
The stream does not need MOCA, it will connect directly to your router... It does not need to be anywhere near your tv or TiVo just find the shortest ethernet cable you can get and connect it directly to your router.

It is the connection to your Premier that needs to be hardwired. Either ethernet or MOCA will do.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:26 PM   #204
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I hadn't kept up with TiVo news, didn't know about the Stream until I saw a review today on All Things D. Looks like a really slick device! Stream to a tablet, watch live content, download programs for offline...take my money!

I see that Android is "coming soon." Would be nice to have it right away, but not too long, I hope.
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Will the Tivo Stream work with an Cisco Adapter Box? I have TWC (Torrance, CA) and have had dropped or missing channel error messages for over a year now. I also have a claim filed with the FCC and they are investigating it for the last year as well.
The Stream works directly with content saved on your Premier - your cable connection should have no impact.
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http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2012-08/tivo-stream-review/

Zatz's review is up.
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Great you spoiled it, now who will go read the review
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Zatz's review says no AirPlay or HDMI out support on the iPad. I'm out.
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