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Old 07-31-2012, 09:30 AM   #1
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Comcast Deleting Secondary Premium Channels

Remember how cool it was when digital cable first came out, and you got like 10 different channels each of HBO and Showtime?

Well, apparently Comcast thinks that's over. In our market (and I think this is a national trend), the four premium packages will include a) 4 channels of HBO (main, main west, 2, and signature), b) 2 channels of Cinemax, c) only the main channel of Showtime, and d) only the main channel of Starz. This is effective August 23.

Of course, the packages will still include the On Demand libraries from these services. I guess Comcast thinks that people will still pay $15-$20 / month just for the VOD access and the main channel, and they can free up bandwidth for something else.

TiVo needs to get me XFinity On Demand access soon.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:42 AM   #2
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What they need to do is get rid of the West feeds of channels, that's one channel that's literally a waste.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:11 AM   #3
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I like having both west and easy coast feeds for HBO & the like. There have been many times I've found a show in progress and been able to set it to record just an hour or two later on the west coast channel.

No sign of Verizon doing the same as Comcast.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:12 AM   #4
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I should add that I'm not sure if Comcast is getting rid of the SD versions of these channels. It is definitely getting rid of the HD versions.
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We got a postcard talking about it and they seem to indicate they are replacing the channels with sports channels. I guess now that onDemand is available to Tivos they are restarting their equivalent of tuning adapter nonsense again.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:18 PM   #6
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onDemand is available to TiVos? Is this a Comcast thing or a new model TiVo thing?
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:20 PM   #7
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onDemand is available to TiVos? Is this a Comcast thing or a new model TiVo thing?
Comcast XFinity On Demand is available on TiVos in two markets only: Boston and San Francisco (and surrounding areas). Supposedly a nationwide rollout is coming, but we know how that goes.

TiVo Premiere and newer, only.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:47 PM   #8
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Slightly off topic but was COMCAST going to change their name to XFINITY at one point but decided to back off?

Cuz no one I know seems to have a clue what 'XFINITY' really is when it comes to them. It is not any service as far as i can tell and it is as of now not a company name change.

As of now it reminds me of those cheesy 80's infomercials that proclaim "space age technology' in their product.
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I like having both west and easy coast feeds for HBO & the like. There have been many times I've found a show in progress and been able to set it to record just an hour or two later on the west coast channel.

No sign of Verizon doing the same as Comcast.
But more than likely it's also on just a few hours later again on the eastern channel.
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But more than likely it's also on just a few hours later again on the eastern channel.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but it's on for sure in a couple hours on the west coast feed.

What's the harm in keeping all the channels? It's not like they're running out of numbers.
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We got a postcard talking about it and they seem to indicate they are replacing the channels with sports channels. I guess now that onDemand is available to Tivos they are restarting their equivalent of tuning adapter nonsense again.
The Pac-12 Network is starting up August 15, and it will include a national network, plus six regional networks to represent the six different regions in the Pac-12 (Washington, Oregon, Northern California, Southern California, Arizona, Moutain). I wonder if Comcast is making room in their bandwidth to offer not only the national feed, but also the regional feeds.
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but it's on for sure in a couple hours on the west coast feed.

What's the harm in keeping all the channels? It's not like they're running out of numbers.
Stated motivation: To recover bandwidth

Conspiracy theory motivation: To drive people to VOD. Why do they care about that? I think that's either consumer lock-in/churn reduction, or it drives more equipment rentals. Or perhaps both.
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:04 PM   #13
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I have comcast and have never had the HD versions of the secondary channels. I get all the SD versions
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:14 PM   #14
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The Pac-12 Network is starting up August 15, and it will include a national network, plus six regional networks to represent the six different regions in the Pac-12 (Washington, Oregon, Northern California, Southern California, Arizona, Moutain). I wonder if Comcast is making room in their bandwidth to offer not only the national feed, but also the regional feeds.
I don't have the card anymore but that sounds like it might be right!
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Whew, thanks again to my overlords at Verizon FiOS for keeping most of these extra channels in the bundle for me.

That doesn't mean that my day isn't coming More than likely they'll eventually pull the same crap that Comcast is doing here, with a similar excuse. Hopefully by then I'll have more video on demand options available to me as well.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:16 PM   #16
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I have comcast and have never had the HD versions of the secondary channels. I get all the SD versions
The only HBO channels I get in HD are HBO, HBO2, and HBO Zone. The others (HBO Comedy, HBO Family, HBO Latin, and HBO Signature) are in SD only.

Xfinity VOD in the Boston market? I wonder if that includes me...
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:32 PM   #17
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They added the other HBO channels in HD fairly recently here in Philly. I'm thinking maybe a year ago.
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OP, please link your source. I can't find any verification of your information.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:39 PM   #19
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OP, please link your source. I can't find any verification of your information.
My source is a piece of paper I got in the mail from Comcast.
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My source is a piece of paper I got in the mail from Comcast.
Please scan and post here.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:55 PM   #21
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Please scan and post here.
When I get home tonight I'll check to see if I still have it. If I do, I'll take a picture of it with my phone and post it.
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When I get home tonight I'll check to see if I still have it. If I do, I'll take a picture of it with my phone and post it.
Thanks!
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:57 PM   #23
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I was worried this was a trend so I checked if there was any chatter about TWC or other providers doing the same thing. So far Comcast looks like the only offender.

http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Channel...ls/td-p/988533
http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Channel...g/td-p/1332109

And sometimes there are movies and programs the main channel doesn't broadcast. Like others have already said, Comcast should be expanding HD programming, not taking it away.

So not cool.
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I was worried this was a trend so I checked if there was any chatter about TWC or other providers doing the same thing. So far Comcast looks like the only offender.

http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Channel...ls/td-p/988533
http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Channel...g/td-p/1332109

And sometimes there are movies and programs the main channel doesn't broadcast. Like others have already said, Comcast should be expanding HD programming, not taking it away.

So not cool.
In fairness to Comcast, most of those movies and programs are probably available On Demand that month.
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In fairness to Comcast, most of those movies and programs are probably available On Demand that month.
I suppose. It's been years since I've been on Comcast, but I remember that on top of the Premium OnDemand content they also offered a lot of HD movies for free to their customers through OnDemand.

But that won't help much if you don't have their STB (i.e. just your TiVo box) or if a movie they're showing on the other channels aren't on OnDemand.
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I like having both west and easy coast feeds for HBO & the like. There have been many times I've found a show in progress and been able to set it to record just an hour or two later on the west coast channel.

No sign of Verizon doing the same as Comcast.
I, too, like having both feeds. I hope Charter doesn't start taking away channels. We pay enough for cable that we aren't getting any more than we pay for, that's for sure!
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:42 AM   #27
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In fairness to Comcast, most of those movies and programs are probably available On Demand that month.
Which means squat to most TiVo owners, right?
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Xfinity VOD in the Boston market? I wonder if that includes me...
Probably, if you live in the Boston area. I live north of Boston and can get VOD on my Tivo Premiere when it's in the "HD Menu" mode.
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I don't have Comcast, but I hate the idea of them giving you less for the same money or more. I hope this isn't a trend. Yeah, I know a lot of what they show on the various channels is redundant, but I still like the idea of choice. The thing is, I don't find a clear definition of what the other HBOs are supposed to be in some cases. HBOE and HBOW I get. HBO Signature? What is that supposed to be? How about HBO Zone? I think they need to scope those channels out better so that they just don't seem redundant and give the providers an excuse to cut them. Maybe change HBO Signature to show only HBO produced content. HBO Zone could be something else...not sure what.
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