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Old 07-24-2012, 01:19 PM   #91
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Why didn't Gus offer to set up offshore accounts for Jesse and Walt?

Note that Lydia/Madrigal knew the 11 but not who the chemist(!) is.

Remember when Saul told Walt about the guy "who is very, very careful. Nobody knows who he is?"

And Mike seemed to work for or with Saul when he showed up to clean up Jane's place and bugged Walt's house. Wasn't that even before Walt was selling to Gus?

Consider that when Hank drove by the laundry and when the DEA guys took a look, they could have very well have seen Walt's car out front.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:30 PM   #92
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Why didn't Gus offer to set up offshore accounts for Jesse and Walt?
Because they were always paid in cash. If Gus could pay them in cash, the money laundering was Walt and Jesse's problem, not Gus's.

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Note that Lydia/Madrigal knew the 11 but not who the chemist(!) is.
Because she had no need to know. She knew who the 11 were because they were the same 11 who had offshore accounts (plus Mike makes it an "even dozen" as Hank indicated to Mike).

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And Mike seemed to work for or with Saul when he showed up to clean up Jane's place and bugged Walt's house. Wasn't that even before Walt was selling to Gus?
Yes, Mike is a free agent. ABQ is a small town. Saul also was hired by Gus, so I'm sure Mike worked for both. Not that surprising. It's a stretch here, but perhaps Gus arranged for Mike to be involved in the Jane mess to make sure that Walt was free/able/ready to start working for him.

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Consider that when Hank drove by the laundry and when the DEA guys took a look, they could have very well have seen Walt's car out front.
Just luck, I guess. I don't remember the DEA investigating the laundry anytime when Walt was there. Hank could have drove by himself, but I'm also not sure where Walt and Jesse parked was in plain sight.
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:13 PM   #93
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We actually saw that roomba before, sometime early last season.
Not only that, we saw a POV camera angle from the Roomba, which was awesome.

Whenver Jesse's Roomba is shown, Alan Sepinwall's review will inevitably bemoan the fact that it isn't playing any music, as a nod to Tom Haverford from Parks & Rec's "DJ Roomba":

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Old 07-24-2012, 08:31 PM   #94
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:58 PM   #95
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...Did Aaron Paul do an amazing job after emptying the Rumba or what? Not to mention, he's sounding a lot less like the doofusy kid, the opening phone call barely sounded like Jesse at all....
That kid has a GREAT acting career ahead of him...IF he keeps his head screwed on straight.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:02 PM   #96
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...I think we all knew that's where things were headed.
Not in Breaking Bad-land....
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:08 PM   #97
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Since I just started watching BB a month ago, many of the scenes are fresh in my mind. The scene at the end with Skyler is a callback to a scene very early in season 1 (also the last scene in an episode) where Walt gets frisky with her in exactly the same position and she responds with excitement and one of those "wow, where did this come from, take me you big strong man" kind of reaction...
Wasn't that the pilot (S01E01) ep?
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I think it ends with Walt killing Hank. That's about as breaking bad as you get.

Walt has the upper hand on Hank and is smart enough to stay one step ahead and throw him off the trail. But at some point it's gonna be "him or me". If cancer hasn't gotten Walt enough by then, he'll kill Hank.
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:56 PM   #99
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I think it ends with Walt killing Hank. That's about as breaking bad as you get.

Walt has the upper hand on Hank and is smart enough to stay one step ahead and throw him off the trail. But at some point it's gonna be "him or me". If cancer hasn't gotten Walt enough by then, he'll kill Hank.
I'd buy that over Hank catching or killing Walt.
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I liked Mike's use of his granddaughter's toy.
Read the first review...

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Sepinwall's take on the ep...
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:39 AM   #103
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Wasn't that the pilot (S01E01) ep?
I think so but since I was not sure, I didn't commit too that!

Earlier in the episode, a docile Walt meekly accepted a HJ for his birthday. At the end, the "took" his wife in an authoritative and passionate way and she responded to it with surprise and welcome. This time was similar yet very very different.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:24 AM   #104
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"Walt is that you?"

Her surprise that this was her docile husband and he wasn't quite docile.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:41 AM   #105
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I think so but since I was not sure, I didn't commit too that!

Earlier in the episode, a docile Walt meekly accepted a HJ for his birthday. At the end, the "took" his wife in an authoritative and passionate way and she responded to it with surprise and welcome. This time was similar yet very very different.
It was discussed on the podcast for this episode (Madrigal) that the final scene with Skylar and Walt actually went longer but had to be cut for time. In the longer version, Walt continues with his advances and Skylar, obviously not in the mood, reaches behind herself and gives him a preemptive HJ before he can take things farther.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:47 AM   #106
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It was discussed on the podcast for this episode (Madrigal) that the final scene with Skylar and Walt actually went longer but had to be cut for time. In the longer version, Walt continues with his advances and Skylar, obviously not in the mood, reaches behind herself and gives him a preemptive HJ before he can take things farther.
I'm glad they had to cut it, then. The creepiness/rape of the scene would have been totally ruined and become much less powerful.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:49 AM   #107
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I'm glad they had to cut it, then. The creepiness/rape of the scene would have been totally ruined and become much less powerful.
Not the way they describe in the podcast - it was even more creepy than the edited version. They described it as "rapey." They were still happy with the edited version, too, as they felt it conveyed the same thing they were going for in the longer original.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:02 AM   #108
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Not the way they describe in the podcast - it was even more creepy than the edited version. They described it as "rapey." They were still happy with the edited version, too, as they felt it conveyed the same thing they were going for in the longer original.
Heh, heh....he said "longer original"....heh, heh....
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Not the way they describe in the podcast - it was even more creepy than the edited version. They described it as "rapey." They were still happy with the edited version, too, as they felt it conveyed the same thing they were going for in the longer original.
Not sure how that would work. If she's volutarily giving him a HJ, even if she felt pressured to do so, that takes away any "rapey" feel from the scene and makes her a willing partner, IMO.
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This episode motivated me to replace the batteries in my 3 Roombas and get them working again. So nice to rid my house of excess dust, dirt, & dog hair.
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This episode motivated me to replace the batteries in my 3 Roombas and get them working again. So nice to rid my house of excess dust, dirt, & dog hair and ricin cigarettes.
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This episode motivated me to replace the batteries in my 3 Roombas and get them working again. So nice to rid my house of excess dust, dirt, & dog hair.


But loved the fix to this post. Though it wasn't a ricin cigarette, it was a salt filled, fake ricin.
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Not sure how that would work. If she's volutarily giving him a HJ, even if she felt pressured to do so, that takes away any "rapey" feel from the scene and makes her a willing partner, IMO.
wow...I'm sorry, but your opinion is dead wrong!

Being in the same room as him makes her shake with fear. Any sexual acquiescence on her part is out of sheer terror. Absolutely "rapey" in my book and in court as well.
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Not sure how that would work. If she's volutarily giving him a HJ, even if she felt pressured to do so, that takes away any "rapey" feel from the scene and makes her a willing partner, IMO.
If she is doing it because she is afraid of him it's not voluntary, therefore very rapey. Maybe you have to be a woman to get it.
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If she is doing it because she is afraid of him it's not voluntary, therefore very rapey. Maybe you have to be a woman to get it.
A wife giving her hubby a HJ because she isn't exactly in the mood means he kinda'-sorta' raped her?

Yeah, I get the idea that she is starting to fear her hubby, but I think "rapey" (i.e. pertaining to rape) is not the right word. It's a bit ... heavy-handed ... so to speak. She didn't tell him "NO!" and he proceeded to force himself on her.
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A wife giving her hubby a HJ because she isn't exactly in the mood means he kinda'-sorta' raped her?
If you think Skylar is a wife who just "wasn't in the mood" then you are misunderstanding a great deal of the show.
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She wasn't "wasn't in the mood" she didn't want him to touch her. In any way. We had seen that already from the hugs he gave her and she just stood there.

If a HJ is going to stop me from getting physically entered by someone I am scared and disgusted and confused because he is not the man I thought he was (or raped as they might say), then I would do the HJ.
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Sepinwall's take on the ep...
I guess he doesn't watch the show that closely...

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The order of the day is still cleaning up the mess that was made when Walter White destroyed a business.... Hank's air filter lead from Gale's apartment takes the investigation to the German headquarters of Madrigal Electromotive.
No, that's not what brought them back to Madrigal Electromotive. ME was clearly an investor of LPH, and more likely, Gus had a Cayman bank accounts (for Herr Schuler) which drew the DEA back to ME to investigate. Or maybe ME was a depositor to the Gus's account. The "air filter" lead from Season 3 was a dead lead, and had really very little to do with Season 5 (other than confirming that Hank was totally correct in his suspicion). Clearly, the DEA had evidence that Herr Schuler was connected to the meth production, as the CEO said he "acted alone" (but as the audience knows, he at least he worked with Lydia at ME, maybe others).

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(*) Two thoughts on this sequence. First, it took me a couple of viewings to feel reasonably confident that what Walt does is to hide the real Chekhov's Ricin behind an electrical socket (in case he ever needs it again without having the time or resources to make a new batch of ricin), while the one he and Jesse find inside the Roomba is a fake one to give Jesse peace of mind.
Really, that took you a couple of viewings to figure out? It was pretty obvious to me, and I'm assuming most other people.

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No, that wasn't Herr Schuler looking at the photo of himself and Gus, it was the Polizei waiting for him in his office/reception area.
I missed that. I thought is was Herr Schuler as well. But you're right, he was never in his office and the picture would not have been in the bathroom!
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Schuler went back to his office (but did not go inside). From his vantage point, looking through the windows of his office, he could see the police looking over his things (and paying particular attention to his photo with Gus). He decided not to enter his office, and instead turned, grabbed the nearby AED, and headed into the bathroom. He already had an excellent idea what they were there about, because as his assistant told him in the tater tot room "they're back again. This time three of them."
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