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Old 07-13-2012, 10:36 AM   #1
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Suits, 2012-Jul-12, "Discovery"

Donna loses her air of perfection. Especially after those comments she made to Harvey earlier, it will be interesting to see how she handles her apparent mistake, since she does not have much experience with making mistakes.

That memo is puzzling. It did not seem to have a From: line (even redacted), the former Coastal Motors employee (Sarah) claims she never wrote a memo, the Coastal Motors CEO (Lawrence) claims he did not know about a memo (although he did turn out to know about the defective hood), and Harvey and Donna were not aware of a memo.

It wasn't clear to me whether Tanner already knew about Sarah, or whether he found out about her from following Harvey. I got the impression Tanner already knew, but it seemed like it could go the other way also.

So where did the memo come from? Why was the memo redacted so heavily? I'd think the law firm would get the unredacted memo, and it would only be redacted later if it was evidence in trial. How did Tanner know about the memo? There's still something fishy going on with that memo.

Is there some deeper plot going on? Did the DA maybe make a deal with Tanner to try to discredit Harvey?

Could Daniel have planted the (forged?) memo in the file room?

On Louis. It seemed that we were supposed to assume that Louis told Daniel about the situation with Tanner suing the firm. But we were not shown Louis actually tattling. And Louis wasn't happy with how Daniel treated him in his office earlier. So perhaps Daniel found out on his own. Maybe Louis is more trustworthy than Harvey and Mike thought?

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Old 07-13-2012, 11:24 AM   #2
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I have no answers. This episode confused the hell out of me. Frankly, I think I just watch it to look at the pretty women.

On reflection, maybe that's why I watch most shows on this network...
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:05 PM   #3
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I assume Donna would recognize her own signature; but I also vaugely wonder if that memo might have been planted recently.

Admittedly my reaction upon watching was "damn.... Donna screwed up big". But on reflected that doesn't seem like (what we've seen) of her. But how would Tanner get it planted, and why risk getting caught at delivering it. (For that matter how did he even begin to figure out there was a case here? Even wanting to take Harvey down, what led him to find that this case had attackable loose ends?)
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Old 07-13-2012, 02:08 PM   #4
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But how would Tanner get it planted, and why risk getting caught at delivering it.
Daniel could have easily planted it.

And Donna's mark could easily be forged by anyone with access to the file room.
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Old 07-13-2012, 03:08 PM   #5
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Daniel could have easily planted it.

And Donna's mark could easily be forged by anyone with access to the file room.
why would Daniel want to plant something like that and have a lawsuit against his firm? He can't take it back once it's found, so they'd be found guilty, even if incompetence/mistake of omission was the cause. I assumed Daniel knew because Louis told him.


Overalll, i was pretty confused about this episode too. who wrote the note and how Tanner knew about it, or even how he knew about Sarah... i hope they clarify it a bit in the coming episode(s).

The arc with Mike and Louis was interesting. I could see Louis going both ways after he recorded the conversation- he could see Mike as someone who was trying to back him up, but i guess he didn't appreciate feeling like an associate was one of the cool kids feeling pity for him and seeing him as a guy who just wants to be as cool as Harvey.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:01 PM   #6
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why would Daniel want to plant something like that and have a lawsuit against his firm? He can't take it back once it's found, so they'd be found guilty, even if incompetence/mistake of omission was the cause.
Maybe Daniel has a plan to take down Harvey and Jessica without destroying the firm. Or maybe Daniel's whole plan is to destroy the firm for whatever reason.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:10 PM   #7
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I don't think one malpractice case would destroy the firm - would it? Especially not if Daniel can create scapegoats in Jessica and Harvey and get them out.

I don't think Louis told Daniel, I think Daniel found out, which they knew was inevitable because he had connections at that company.

Did Louis bug Mike? I wasn't sure how he got the conversation with Harvey.
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Did Louis bug Mike? I wasn't sure how he got the conversation with Harvey.
Yup, Louis left his dictaphone (the one Daniel gave him, it looked like) under a newspaper on the shelf that Louis was leaning against in Harvey's office.
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...Did Louis bug Mike? I wasn't sure how he got the conversation with Harvey.
Apparently he left his dictaphone in Harvey's ofice.
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Apparently he left his dictaphone in Harvey's ofice.
Huh?
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Huh?
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:16 PM   #12
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dictaphone... DICTAPHONE!

Sheesh wadda you ppl, deaf or something?!


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Old 07-14-2012, 10:56 PM   #14
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From the moment Louis got that dictaphone from Daniel, I've wondered if it's bugged and Daniel's hearing everything Louis is recording.
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I really wish they never would have come up with this ridiculous Daniel plot. It's all just so contrived.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:20 AM   #18
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I always get confused between "Suits" and "White Collar". I swear that the two main characters in each are the same guys with just a different storyline.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:27 AM   #19
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I didn't realize it before, because I hadn't gotten that far in the BB series, but Daniel is Gale!

Anyway, I just watched this episode this morning and was a bit confused also. I did like the Mike/Louis bit and thought that it would have been a good way to go for a few more episodes at least. Seeing/respecting him as a good lawyer but maybe not liking them as a person. I can't believe Donna missed that memo and I got the feeling from the woman that "wrote" it that Harvey went to see, that it wasn't written and must have been planted. Maybe by Harold? How did that guy get past the interview process?
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Maybe by Harold? How did that guy get past the interview process?
That keeps bugging me too. This firm harvests their newbies from Harvard - no way they'd accept a sniveling toadie like that kid.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:42 AM   #21
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That keeps bugging me too. This firm harvests their newbies from Harvard - no way they'd accept a sniveling toadie like that kid.
Have we seen him before? I can't remember.
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Yes - a few times. Cowering from Louis, usually.
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I didn't realize it before, because I hadn't gotten that far in the BB series, but Daniel is Gale!
That was bugging me too. I made the connection after re-watching Season 4 of BB.
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I don't know.

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Old 07-16-2012, 05:40 AM   #25
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I didn't understand this episode at all.

Sarah Rafferty is cute though.
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Old 07-16-2012, 07:08 AM   #26
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I hate Daniel's speech patterns.

Oh, man. Donna isn't perfect. Maybe I have a chance with her now.
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