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Old 06-21-2012, 04:21 PM   #31
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BUT sometimes the local network station replaces a network show with some local sports program, than the TiVo does not record the program and one must use ON-Demand (or a PC ) to see the missing program.
I usually use Amazon VOD on my TiVo to watch missed recordings.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:09 PM   #32
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who knows maybe the ipbackchannel is the issue launching ondemand via cox and more comcasts this fast.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:27 PM   #33
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Ah, I see. Didn't know I needed the cable box for 'on demand'.
Well, the Premieres can do On Demand now on Comcast in a few areas (SF Bay Area & Boston, IIRC).. and I think one of the other cable companies is working on it.

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BUT sometimes the local network station replaces a network show with some local sports program, than the TiVo does not record the program and one must use ON-Demand (or a PC ) to see the missing program.
Interesting. While it's not a local network station, is Jeopardy! available On Demand? That is one show that gets preempted fairly often (well, a bunch of times a year), though admittedly THIS week they've actually rescheduled them.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:33 PM   #34
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Well, the Premieres can do On Demand now on Comcast in a few areas (SF Bay Area & Boston, IIRC).. and I think one of the other cable companies is working on it.



Interesting. While it's not a local network station, is Jeopardy! available On Demand? That is one show that gets preempted fairly often (well, a bunch of times a year), though admittedly THIS week they've actually rescheduled them.
jeopardy is syndicated what ever local station wants to pay for it gets it could be NBC,CBS,ABC,FOX
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:17 AM   #35
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So any info on what the actual update brought besides fullscreen Xfinity onDemand?

I can confirm Side by Side 3D is now watchable via xfinity onDemand in the bay area.
I see one feature; where in the past the suggestion bar showed just plain "on now" beneath a program airing at the moment, it now adds "on ch. XXX instead". So if Suits is on in that moment it will show on the bottom "on ch. 628 now" (where I am, it's USAHD) instead of just "on now".
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:09 PM   #36
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I usually use Amazon VOD on my TiVo to watch missed recordings.
does Amazon offer the network shows for free like cable does? I didn't think, so
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:04 PM   #37
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I usually use Amazon VOD on my TiVo to watch missed recordings.
Without prime wouldn't that get pricey?
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:12 PM   #38
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One of the TiVo reps posted on the forum a list of all update changes from the last major update. Unfortunate that she didn't post for this one, she certainly was thanked appreciably by many users.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:20 PM   #39
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One of the TiVo reps posted on the forum a list of all update changes from the last major update. Unfortunate that she didn't post for this one, she certainly was thanked appreciably by many users.
this was a minor one though
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:34 PM   #40
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It has totally fixed my issue with the black sidebars for VOD in 3d.
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jeopardy is syndicated what ever local station wants to pay for it gets it could be NBC,CBS,ABC,FOX
I know that, what does that have to do with my question whether it's available On Demand?
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Old 06-22-2012, 09:40 PM   #42
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I know that, what does that have to do with my question whether it's available On Demand?
only network shows are ondemand as far as I know

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Old 06-24-2012, 11:17 PM   #43
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only network shows are ondemand as far as I know
And most of the Premium content if you're a subscriber, i.e. HBO, Showtime, etc.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:38 PM   #44
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And most of the Premium content if you're a subscriber, i.e. HBO, Showtime, etc.
In my findings about 75% of the shows that air on network/cable are available. A majority of them only have the last 3 episodes and/or wait a week before making the episode available ondemand.

All the shows that are currently airing on premium networks are available right after the show airs or by the next morning (including every episode from the season thats currently airing). But if you want to watch older premium channel content it isn't so easy.

Example: Comcast only gives you a couple episodes each week of old HBO shows, unlike HBO Go that lets you watch every episode.
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:25 PM   #45
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Ohhhh...So, even though I pay through my cable co to have 'on demand' and always had it before, with a cable box, I just don't get it now at all? It seems odd that the Tivo would take away paid services. I never would have thought of that.

Oh well, I'd rather have Tivo but I'd also like to have what I pay Charter for so I guess I'll go online and delete that service. wah
how do you pay for ondemand? You are only charged if you it there are no monthly ondemand charges.
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:55 PM   #46
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I'm on the preferred list and only just now got the update... 12 days after others first reported it...

I would "PREFER" to get it sooner...

I haven't noticed any difference yet. I was hoping for todo screen in HDUI...
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:30 PM   #47
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It was only a minor update.

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Old 06-30-2012, 11:41 PM   #48
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And most of the Premium content if you're a subscriber, i.e. HBO, Showtime, etc.
and also non-network local content (like pets available for adoption at the local shelter).
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:48 AM   #49
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I'm on the preferred list and only just now got the update... 12 days after others first reported it...

I would "PREFER" to get it sooner...
Just out of curiosity, did you re-enter your TSN on the Priority Page when this new minor update was released? The entries from the Spring Update weren't carried over to this one. I got my update just a couple days after I entered my TSN.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:37 PM   #50
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BUT sometimes the local network station replaces a network show with some local sports program, than the TiVo does not record the program and one must use ON-Demand (or a PC ) to see the missing program.
When that happens, we just hit up eztv.it and download the show, then move it to the TiVo. They have extensive links for most major shows.
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Old 07-02-2012, 02:47 PM   #51
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When that happens, we just hit up eztv.it and download the show, then move it to the TiVo. They have extensive links for most major shows.
I not saying ON-Demand is the only way to get a missing show, just saying it is an easy way to do it, if/when OD is available on my TPs.
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Old 07-10-2012, 05:29 PM   #52
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I not saying ON-Demand is the only way to get a missing show, just saying it is an easy way to do it, if/when OD is available on my TPs.
This "minor" update has managed to screw up the metadata transfer - again.
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:10 PM   #53
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Not sure yet but the discovery bar is now gone from my unit after this minor update - I have all that Customize Discovery Bar stuff unchecked.

If this is true and holds..........YAY! Finally after 2 years!
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:36 PM   #54
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Sorry to say, it won't last. Enjoy while you can!
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:39 PM   #55
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This "minor" update has managed to screw up the metadata transfer - again.
I was wrong about this. It was a different problem involving starRating.
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Sorry to say, it won't last. Enjoy while you can!
Never even happened for me. I went in and unchecked everything and Discovery Bar changed but is still there.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:09 PM   #57
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Several things broke

There have been several problems for me with this "minor" update.

1) I'm getting audio glitching (as others have reported) that is fixed by the jump back button. It for me however only seems to occur on Podcasts such as CNet. I can play the same Podcast from the Now Playing list twice and I may get the problem the first time, the second time, both times or neither. It usually goes away within 10-15 seconds into the podcast without rewinding, but it is annoying nonetheless.

2) The NEW indicator seems to have disappeared from the NPL as well as the folder icons.

3) The currently selected item in the list doesn't appear selected when getting to a list for the first time. This can be in the now playing list or in a folder. Moving the selection makes the highlight show up. Selecting the item without the highlight also works, but sometimes the item that is actually selected isn't the item I wanted.

4) Pressing the clear button to delete from the remote while in a folder on in the main NPL doesn't do anything (I expect it to delete the show).

All these problems showed up around the time I got 20.2.1.2, which ironically doesn't actually do anything for me since I don't currently have Comcast, and even if I did, I don't live in an area that they have turned on OnDemand for.

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Old 07-13-2012, 07:54 PM   #58
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2) The NEW indicator seems to have disappeared from the NPL as well as the folder icons.
I'm seeing somewhat the opposite problem. Almost everything is flagged as NEW, including anything transferred to the TiVo. But this Premiere doesn't do much recording (still haven't installed the CableCARD). I'll check the other one tomorrow.

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3) The currently selected item in the list doesn't appear selected when getting to a list for the first time. This can be in the now playing list or in a folder. Moving the selection makes the highlight show up. Selecting the item without the highlight also works, but sometimes the item that is actually selected isn't the item I wanted.
Not seeing this problem.

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4) Pressing the clear button to delete from the remote while in a folder on in the main NPL doesn't do anything (I expect it to delete the show).
Nor this one.
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Never even happened for me. I went in and unchecked everything and Discovery Bar changed but is still there.
Discovery bar back on today. Weird that it was off all of last night and didn't slow down or crash the Tivo. I guess they are slowly polishing things with the interface. In the past, if the discovery bar was not displaying, the entire interface would slow to a crawl. Since it was still snappy and working fine without it for many hours last night, I was hoping they removed it with the new upgrade (depending on settings).

Short lived buzz for me.
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Items 2 - 4 seem to have fixed themselves. Item 1 remains.

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