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Old 05-21-2012, 08:48 AM   #1
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Networking: Watch recordings from one box, on another?

I'm wondering if it's possible to watch recordings from one Tivo Premiere (Life) on another Tivo (not subscribed to any service) over a hard wired LAN?

WITHOUT copying/transferring the files = direct playback from the main one to the other.

I've played with some other network connections and had some success, so I think it's likely possible - but just checking.

Our current, 2nd Tivo lives only as a cable box (w/cablecard) - it would be nice to add hassle free playback to it if this is possible (and the cabling is run to implement it).
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Old 05-21-2012, 11:12 AM   #2
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No. Look in the premiere forums for many threads on this topic.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:51 PM   #3
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I'm wondering if it's possible to watch recordings from one Tivo Premiere (Life) on another Tivo (not subscribed to any service) over a hard wired LAN?

WITHOUT copying/transferring the files = direct playback from the main one to the other.

I've played with some other network connections and had some success, so I think it's likely possible - but just checking.

Our current, 2nd Tivo lives only as a cable box (w/cablecard) - it would be nice to add hassle free playback to it if this is possible (and the cabling is run to implement it).
What model is that unsubscribed TiVo, how long have you had it, was it ever subbed, and why isn't it subbed now?
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:14 PM   #4
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What model is that unsubscribed TiVo, how long have you had it, was it ever subbed, and why isn't it subbed now?
It's also a Premiere. About 1 year old - never subscribed - never will be.

We use it as a cable box only. (with cable card).

Not going to ever subscribe it because -
We already have one Lifetime Premiere. We also record with EyeTV3 with a dual HD tuner and stream all it's recordings to 2 iPads, 2 AppleTVs and a Western Digital Live Streaming Media player, as well as online via Stream To Me. iPhones coming.

Cable company box rental even at only $10-12/month would equal $120-$144/year.
Cable card rental = less than $24/year.

Tivo Premiere cost was $65. It has already paid for itself in savings over renting a cable box. An added bonus - if the Lifetime Premiere box ever goes bad - I have an extra parts box sitting right here.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:23 PM   #5
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Since you have Apple TV's, then you could use KMTTG to download, decrypt, and re-encode the shows from the existing TiVo, then import them into iTunes which would make them watchable on any of your Apple TV units.

All of that can be automated. KMTTG can automatically do everything but import into iTunes, but I'm sure there's probably a way to do that too.

Of course, this will only work for non-copy-protected channels.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:28 PM   #6
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It's also a Premiere. About 1 year old - never subscribed - never will be.

We use it as a cable box only. (with cable card).

Not going to ever subscribe it because -
We already have one Lifetime Premiere. We also record with EyeTV3 with a dual HD tuner and stream all it's recordings to 2 iPads, 2 AppleTVs and a Western Digital Live Streaming Media player, as well as online via Stream To Me. iPhones coming.

Cable company box rental even at only $10-12/month would equal $120-$144/year.
Cable card rental = less than $24/year.

Tivo Premiere cost was $65. It has already paid for itself in savings over renting a cable box. An added bonus - if the Lifetime Premiere box ever goes bad - I have an extra parts box sitting right here.
Okay, then no point discussing your chances of getting the $99 lifetime offer.

If you don't have a sub, you don't get most of the features of the TiVo, 'cause the sub covers not just the guide data but the license to use the proprietry TiVo software that enables those features as well.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:00 PM   #7
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Since you have Apple TV's, then you could use KMTTG to download, decrypt, and re-encode the shows from the existing TiVo, then import them into iTunes which would make them watchable on any of your Apple TV units.

All of that can be automated. KMTTG can automatically do everything but import into iTunes, but I'm sure there's probably a way to do that too.

Of course, this will only work for non-copy-protected channels.
I'm aware of KMTTG, but it's a bit gooey looking. Maybe if I ever get the time I'll try it out.

I could also use TiVo Transfer (OSX program that comes with Toast) and set up Auto-Transfers from the TiVo to view recordings over the network. But it's not TiVo to Tivo. These require time to copy/transfer etc. as opposed to one TiVo reading direct from the other source TiVo .

In the end, 100% of all TiVo recordings are one viewing, disposable TV Show recordings for us. The EyeTV recordings are immediately on the network - it's the Tivo system that takes a little more work to share. In this day and age it seems very dated.

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Old 05-25-2012, 04:04 PM   #8
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Okay, then no point discussing your chances of getting the $99 lifetime offer.

If you don't have a sub, you don't get most of the features of the TiVo, 'cause the sub covers not just the guide data but the license to use the proprietry TiVo software that enables those features as well.
Yes, grrrrr I had read about those $99 lifetime offers. We have all the features on the $600 Lifetime unit, the other one, (again) is a brain dead TV tuner/cable box which can be manually programmed to record, but never is.

Thanks again all - it was worth a try.
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:30 AM   #9
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I'm aware of KMTTG, but it's a bit gooey looking. Maybe if I ever get the time I'll try it out.

I could also use TiVo Transfer (OSX program that comes with Toast) and set up Auto-Transfers from the TiVo to view recordings over the network. But it's not TiVo to Tivo. These require time to copy/transfer etc. as opposed to one TiVo reading direct from the other source TiVo
You do know you don't have to wait for the transfer to complete to start watching? The only real advantage I can see to streaming is you can stream copy protected programming. It would be nice if they implemented Premiere-to-Premiere remote control and streaming of live TV, however.
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The EyeTV recordings are immediately on the network - it's the Tivo system that takes a little more work to share. In this day and age it seems very dated.
And that effort you take to make things work for you is the price you pay.
TiVo isn't the only company out there that limits features for non subscribers of their products.
For example, you can download and use VideoReDo for free but your use of it is limited unless you opt to pay for it.
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