How to force a software update

[modiphier]

Hi Guys,

I have a hughes SD-DVR40 with instantcake and pvnet with 6.2a. It has been running great for years. I recently noticed I am not getting the correct local channels. I did as instructed in this post and would just like to verify that I should continue.

bash-2.02# cd /var/packages/
bash-2.02# sh ./getslice 
You currently have   86 MB of available space on your var partition,
which is enough free space to unpack slices, proceeding...
Downloading files to your TiVo. This will take a several minutes...
Connecting to www.dvrupgrade.com[68.178.174.174]:80
slices.tgz           100% |*****************************************************************************| 17112 KB 00:00:00 ETA
Download successful!
Unpacking archive...

dbload
GZcore-127004584-2.slice.gz
GZhpk-Series2-127004588-2.slice.gz
GZkernel-Series2-127004586-2.slice.gz
swsystem-127008031-2.slice.gz
utils-127004582-2.slice.gz
Uncompressing /var/packages/GZcore-127004584-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/GZhpk-Series2-127004588-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/GZkernel-Series2-127004586-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/swsystem-127008031-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/utils-127004582-2.slice.gz...

Now lets see if there are slices loaded...
Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

    Name                      Type        FsId      Date  Time   Size    
    ----                      ----        ----      ----  ----   ----    
    6.2a-01-2-351             tyDb       62162  03/13/07 23:48    724    
    6.4a-01-2-151             tyDb     2606289  11/01/08 02:06    780    
    ACTIVE                    tyDb       62162  03/13/07 23:48    724    

Presumably, your 6.4a slices are now listed above and if that
is the case, you can go ahead and run The Slicer by typing this
in the directory that contains the program:

  ./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151

Bye!
bash-2.02#

I am curious as to whether or not the -351 and the -151 are one in the same and if I am going to have problems once I run the command ./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151. I do have the slicer program may just have to upload it to my unit.

Thanks,

[tivoupgrade]

Originally Posted by modiphier

Hi Guys,

I have a hughes SD-DVR40 with instantcake and pvnet with 6.2a. It has been running great for years. I recently noticed I am not getting the correct local channels. I did as instructed in this post and would just like to verify that I should continue.

bash-2.02# cd /var/packages/
bash-2.02# sh ./getslice 
You currently have   86 MB of available space on your var partition,
which is enough free space to unpack slices, proceeding...
Downloading files to your TiVo. This will take a several minutes...
Connecting to www.dvrupgrade.com[68.178.174.174]:80
slices.tgz           100% |*****************************************************************************| 17112 KB 00:00:00 ETA
Download successful!
Unpacking archive...

dbload
GZcore-127004584-2.slice.gz
GZhpk-Series2-127004588-2.slice.gz
GZkernel-Series2-127004586-2.slice.gz
swsystem-127008031-2.slice.gz
utils-127004582-2.slice.gz
Uncompressing /var/packages/GZcore-127004584-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/GZhpk-Series2-127004588-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/GZkernel-Series2-127004586-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/swsystem-127008031-2.slice.gz...
Uncompressing /var/packages/utils-127004582-2.slice.gz...

Now lets see if there are slices loaded...
Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

    Name                      Type        FsId      Date  Time   Size    
    ----                      ----        ----      ----  ----   ----    
    6.2a-01-2-351             tyDb       62162  03/13/07 23:48    724    
    6.4a-01-2-151             tyDb     2606289  11/01/08 02:06    780    
    ACTIVE                    tyDb       62162  03/13/07 23:48    724    

Presumably, your 6.4a slices are now listed above and if that
is the case, you can go ahead and run The Slicer by typing this
in the directory that contains the program:

  ./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151

Bye!
bash-2.02#

I am curious as to whether or not the -351 and the -151 are one in the same and if I am going to have problems once I run the command ./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151. I do have the slicer program may just have to upload it to my unit.

Thanks,

You are fine to run the command as:

./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151

As the software for the 351 and 151 systems merged with 6.4a.

Not sure if that will help you with your local channel issue, though or why you would be having a problem with that.

You might try logging into DIRECTV's website and 'refreshing' your services to see if that fixes your local channel problem, first...

Lou

[modiphier]

Hi Lou,
Yea, my local channels 12 (cbs) and 10 (nbc) show up as 12 discovery kids and 10 as mtv2 yet the info menu is displaying the correct program info for the local channels. I am not sure what else may be wrong but these I notice right away. I do have an additional hd box and an hd dvr connect next to the sd-dvr40 and I am using a splitter to provide signal to all but the hd units get the correct channels.

What do you mean by logging in and refreshing??

Thanks

[ForrestB]

An RF splitter will NOT work with a satellite signal. Remove the splitter and connect the cable directly to the DVR.

[JimSpence]

To expand on what ForrestB said. Each tuner needs a direct connection to either the dish or a multiswitch. Since you have 2 DVRs and a regular HD receiver you need 5 connections, thus the need of the multiswitch.

What dish do you have?

[tivoupgrade]

Originally Posted by modiphier

What do you mean by logging in and refreshing??

Thanks

When newly upgraded/repaired DirecTiVo units are initially setup, it can take about a day for the local channels to show up in the guide. One way to expedite the process is to log into the directv web site (directv.com) and "refresh" your services. It basically has their server send a signal to your unit via satellite to reset it and the locals will come in much quicker that way.

I'm not suggesting that its a solution to your problem, though as what you've described is different anything I've heard about. Trying it wouldn't hurt though. Just a thought.

Lou

[modiphier]

Hi Guys,

Sorry I wasn't more specific. Did I say splitter. Well I just didn't feel like walking in to the back room to see exactly what it was called. I do have a 4 way multi switch. I believe I have a 5lnb dish it is oval with three heads. I have two wires going to two room upstairs with regular receivers and I have three wires coming down into the basement/apartment. Two go to the multiswitch one goes directly to my regular hd unit. From the multi switch I have two going to my old school instant caked sd-dvr40 and two go to the newie new hd dvr which is a HR21-100. Now the HR21-100 has two wires coming from the multiswitch and it gets both channel 12 regular and in HD. On the other hand the other two wires coming out of the same multiswitch going to the SD-DVR40 get what I said above, discovery kids or something. My locals are channels 12, 10 and 6 for the most part and none of them seem to be coming in as they should be or as the guide displays. Yet the HR21-100 gets them all fine. This is why I figured I needed to upgrade which I really would have no need to unless you guys tell me it is definitely the thing to do. I basically just use the unit at this point to record stuff that I want to burn to disk with tytools. I do not think the capability exists yet to hack the HR21-100 but I am under the impression that I can buy an esata drive and expand the record space although I will not be able to pull the programs off to record.

PS: The SD-DVR40 is not newly upgraded. I initially put the instantcake 6.2 on it and then I may have manually upgraded to 6.2a and even that was a while ago. I just noticed this channel issue within the past few weeks. Just out of the blue... Haven't done a thing to the unit except use it in many months.

[sbursik]

I downloaded the slices as described in this thread. I am at 6.2a fully hacked on 2 SD-DVR40 units and I want to just let one go back to original unhacked so I can play with it and then I will instantcake it later on.

Is there a way to just let her rip and go to standard setup using the slices?

I have been out of the loop on this for a couple of years since my 6.2a was playing so nice but its time for a change.

Thanks in advance!

[sbursik]

Found what I needed here. Thanks!

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=317471

[cutt]

I take the technique described by tivoupgrade in this thread is the preferred technique to get to back to 6.4a (other than instantcake)?

I've got an hr10 that was at 6.4a, but had to drop back to a 6.3e disk when it croaked, thus it doesn't appear it will upgrade on it's own.

Seems irrational on the provider's part to block the auto upgrade but whatever.

[rbtravis]

Upgrades are being done over the Phone Lines. You have to force a telephone call and it does no happen instantly. It may take a few weeks. It will take about 1 hr of phone time. That is the penalty for not backing up. You can purchase Instantcake from DVRupgrade if you don't want to wait.

[tivoupgrade]

Originally Posted by cutt

I take the technique described by tivoupgrade in this thread is the preferred technique to get to back to 6.4a (other than instantcake)?

I've got an hr10 that was at 6.4a, but had to drop back to a 6.3e disk when it croaked, thus it doesn't appear it will upgrade on it's own.

Seems irrational on the provider's part to block the auto upgrade but whatever.

If you have telnet access to your unit then you can use the step-by-step in this post, in lieu of using the slicer, to get the slices and manually upgrade your unit to 6.4a. Just use a 357 instead of the 351 used in the example.

Lou

[cutt]

yes, Lou, that's exactly what I was looking to do after reading completely thru this thread. just wanted to make sure that was still the best option.

I've been making the calls daily for 3 weeks and it appears it's not gonna update since that ird has upgraded to 6.4a previously.

thx

[tivoupgrade]

Originally Posted by cutt

yes, Lou, that's exactly what I was looking to do after reading completely thru this thread. just wanted to make sure that was still the best option.

I've been making the calls daily for 3 weeks and it appears it's not gonna update since that ird has upgraded to 6.4a previously.

thx

'best' is really subjective. For some, wiping the drive clean and starting over with a fresh install is a better option (after running thorough diagnostics on the drive, of course), but if you do have a networked unit, then this way is likely to work for those who are more technical, and without losing your recordings and most of your hacks... sounds like you are on the right track, though.

Lou

[sk33t3r]

Old thread but I need some info, on a hr10-250 can it be upgraded from 63c, directly to 64a??

[cutt]

first, I'll recap my situation from earlier in thread, I upgraded the hdd on my hr10 when back on 6.3e. the new hdd took the upgrade to 6.4a when it came out. subsequently more than a year later, the new hdd failed.

I get a new hdd, clone the old 6.3e, put it in the machine, and for the life of me, can't get it to upgrade to 6.4a even by dialing in more than once a day for a couple of months. (yes I know, slices not in sat stream, has to pull them in via dial-up, yada yada yada).

anyway, planned to do the manual upgrade as posted earlier by telnet-ing in this summer when things were slower just in case I was to blow it up.

last night, looking thru recorded shows, my deleted folder is back! , i.e., it did take the upgrade automatically after more than three months of uptime.

anyway, if you're in this oddball situation, have hope, it might come to you on it's own someday.

[tivoupgrade]

...the information in this thread should give you exactly what you need to update it yourself if its NOT happening automatically!

[sk33t3r]

All I did was, run zipper to get network access.

mount -o remount,rw /

wget -O /var/packages/getslice http://www.dvrupgrade.com/software/u...-6.4a-01-2-357

installSw.itcl 6.4a-01-2-101

reboot

[tivoupgrade]

Here is a link to my previous post (on page 1) which has complete instructions and more details. Its important to ensure you are grabbing the correct slices for your unit if they've not already been downloaded.

Lou

[magnus]

Thanks Lou, I've been wanting to upgrade my sisters DTivo for a while (no phone).

Can anyone give the advantages of 6.4a over 6.2a? Any reason not to upgrade? Thanks

[halfempty]

Originally Posted by magnus

Can anyone give the advantages of 6.4a over 6.2a?

The addition of a "Recently Deleted" folder with a handy "Recover" option. Since deleted programs don't really disappear immediately, you don't have to confirm each deletion any more.

Originally Posted by magnus

Any reason not to upgrade?

No more MRV, if that's important to you.

[magnus]

Thanks for the response. That's it? Does it not at least add play folder or delete folder like the SA Tivo?

[halfempty]

The only new folder is Recently Deleted. Losing MRV is not an issue unless you have a hacked DTivo and are using the option. IIRC the main reason for the update was to change the database a little to prevent the season pass issues that sometimes affects 6.2.

[tward_biteme1]

I downloaded 6.4a-01-2-301.slices.tgz since -301 is the current active 6.2a, but now -101 for 6.4a is showing, does it matter if I use that one with the slicer?

Directory of /SwSystem starting at ''

Name Type FsId Date Time Size
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
6.2a-01-2-101 tyDb 196612 02/17/07 08:41 700
6.2a-01-2-121 tyDb 196616 02/17/07 08:41 700
6.2a-01-2-151 tyDb 196617 02/17/07 08:41 700
6.2a-01-2-301 tyDb 196618 03/09/07 23:12 724
6.2a-01-2-321 tyDb 196619 02/17/07 08:41 700
6.2a-01-2-351 tyDb 196620 02/17/07 08:41 700
6.2a-01-2-381 tyDb 196621 02/17/07 08:41 700
6.2a-01-2-3F1 tyDb 196622 02/17/07 08:41 700
6.4a-01-2-101 tyDb 8567752 04/20/12 20:34 780
ACTIVE tyDb 196618 03/09/07 23:12 724

[55tbird]

I have been trying to force a 6.4a download but haven't had any success, ie, I'm using 6.2a currently with mods for MRV. I've tried to connect via "network" but it keeps failing....the DTivo fails after trying to negotiate. I've already changed the flag to "network_call on" and rebooted but still not doing it.

Any suggestions what I should be trying next? Or is it even possible to download via "network"?

[litzdog911]

Originally Posted by 55tbird

I have been trying to force a 6.4a download but haven't had any success, ie, I'm using 6.2a currently with mods for MRV. I've tried to connect via "network" but it keeps failing....the DTivo fails after trying to negotiate. I've already changed the flag to "network_call on" and rebooted but still not doing it.

Any suggestions what I should be trying next? Or is it even possible to download via "network"?

Review this thread ....
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=485486

[sk33t3r]

did you edit your bootpage? Search for that on here.

[hawkeye1991]

Originally Posted by tivoupgrade

I've been looking into this some more... there is no way to "force" the update by using traditional methods like forcing a daily call. Even if you have a unit which has previously updated to 6.4a and you retrograde it to 6.2a (or put a drive from another unit in it, as suggested by rbtravis) there is no guarantee that the forced call will download 6.4a. We've verified this using our own units.

With that said, if you have a networked unit, there are some options.

Firstly, if you have the 6.4a slices on your unit already you can force an update by manually running installSw.itcl.

To see if you have the slices, you must telnet to your unit and type:

echo mls /SwSystem | tivosh

and you should see something like this, if they are there:

Name                      Type        FsId      Date  Time   Size    
    ----                      ----        ----      ----  ----   ----    
    6.2a-01-2-301             tyDb        4808  09/17/08 03:44    700    
    6.4a-01-2-101             tyDb       57916  09/17/08 04:29    780    
    6.4a-01-2-121             tyDb       59454  09/17/08 04:33    780    
    6.4a-01-2-151             tyDb       60911  09/17/08 04:53    804    
    6.4a-01-2-381             tyDb       55725  09/17/08 04:53    780    
    6.4a-01-2-521             tyDb       64304  09/17/08 04:46    780    
    ACTIVE                    tyDb       60911  09/17/08 04:53    804

What you are seeing are ALL the slices on my own unit which have been dbloaded. Also note that in the aforementioned snippet, the unit has already been updated to 6.4a (you can see this by seeing which software version is 'active.'

If you DON'T have the slices, I've made them available with some easy to use scripts (thanks to an anonymous donor) which can be run as follows from the telnet prompt:

In this example, the unit in question has a service ID that beings with a 351.

wget -O /var/packages/getslice http://www.dvrupgrade.com/software/update_tool/getslice-6.4a-01-2-351

and after the file is downloaded, do the following:

cd /var/packages
sh ./getslice

This will grab the slices specific to your unit and when they are done loaded, you will see them listed (similar to above).

Note that there has been some consolidation of the slices associated with different platforms, so even though we have a script written for each different unit, some of the slices are the same.

Specifically,

DSR/7000 and DSR/704 (101 / 3010)
DVR39 / DVR40 (121 / 321)
HDVR2 / SDDVR (151 / 351)

and they will be listed as such.

Another method of doing this with an already networked unit, and that will preserve your network settings and most of your hacks, is by using a product you must purchase, called "the slicer" -- once you've ftp'ed the binary onto your unit, you can simply type:

./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151 -d

if the slices are NOT on your unit, or don't use the -d option if they are already there. Pretty straightforward.

Lastly, we are working on new InstantCake versions and an analogous PTVnet version for folks who want to start over from scratch. Not available yet, however.

Lou

I'm having to upgrade my HDVR2. Is the information about the slices being available still good?

I have changed routers since I modified my Tivo. and I set it to specific IP with the old router.

Is there anyway to fix this w/o pulling the hard drive out of the unit?

Thanks

[hawkeye1991]

Lou,

I got the slices and bought the slicer. when I try to use the slicer, I get this error message


TIVO1-bash# ./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!

Do you know what to make of it?

Thanks

[hawkeye1991]

Moved it over as binary first. That solved the problem. Locals are back

Originally Posted by hawkeye1991

Lou,

I got the slices and bought the slicer. when I try to use the slicer, I get this error message


TIVO1-bash# ./slicer 6.4a-01-2-151
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!

Do you know what to make of it?

Thanks