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Old 04-30-2012, 10:36 PM   #61
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The intro is not canon and not written by the writers. It also said only one knows the truth and that wasn't true either. In the real world, does time stand still?
Wait...what?

The intro is not written by the writers?

Who wrote it, then?
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:14 PM   #62
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Once again we learned an important lesson for why we need to keep traditions alive. Kids, remember, when your parents are trying to teach you how to maintain magical bean farms and enchanted forests, it is because you might need them to save the world some day. Don't roll your eyes, and say, "This is boring. Can I go play video games instead?" If you do, then it's your fault when a father can't teleport to another dimension to find his lost son or a mother is separated from her newborn child because there aren't enough trees for everyone to weather an incoming curse. YOUR FAULT!

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Just seems like 28 years is a long time for it to start affecting him from leaving her.
It wasn't time that caused August to start being affected, but rather Emma deciding to stay in Storybrooke. I'm thinking that Emma must have popped some sort of bubble keeping the curse contained within Storybrooke. For the people in Storybrooke this was helpful, as the strength of the curse started weakening. But for August, who was outside the bubble, this was harmful because he started being affected by it.

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Storybrooke IS Fairy Tale Land. When Fairy Tale land was cursed, it became Storybrooke. The characters weren't sent to our world.
I agree with the first sentence, but not the second. I think that much like the characters, Fairy Tale Land had an "identity change", and became Storybrooke. But it did come to "our" world. I don't think Emma, August, Henry, and whoever brought Henry to Regina (whether that was Regina, Rumpel, or an outsider) teleported between worlds when traveling between Storybrooke and the rest of our world. The connection was made when the curse was cast, and after that Storybrooke was physically connected.

Regina didn't say she wanted to turn FTL into a world without happy endings; she said she wanted to take everyone to a world without them. If she could have turned FTL into Storybrooke without sending it to our world, there would have been no need to have any connection to it.

Also, I don't think magic is not allowed in our world; it just doesn't exist for the most part. If magic weren't allowed, the curse could not have affected our world in any way, including making Storybrooke a part of it. The reason Rumpelstiltskin could have been freed from his curse by coming here was because coming here would have isolated him from his curse. It wasn't because magic in general wasn't allowed, but because his specific curse only had a hold in FTL.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:25 AM   #63
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Something I noticed on rewatch- when the source of all this trouble Blue Fairy made Pinocchio a real boy she told him that as long as he remained "brave, truthful, and unselfish" he would remain a real boy. The next scene was August telephoning Mr. Gold and then collapsing in another woody spasm.
This phrase "brave, truthful, and unselfish" was repeated again in the episode reminding Pinocchio what is required of him to remain real.
I just wondered if perhaps August is up to something not quite "brave, truthful, and unselfish" and maybe that explained the return of the wood.
Just a thought.

I have never liked the actor that plays August- something about him physically that repels me. But I do have to say that in this episode I warmed to the character a tiny bit- the scenes where he sees Geppetto were pretty effective.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:00 PM   #64
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BTW, did they explain how he got the name August? Did he make it up as a boy? Did he make it up as an adult and has another name from when he was in foster care? I'm sure he wasn't all "hey my name is Pinocchio" when he was found. Also how is his eyes so freaking blue as an adult but look brown as a kid? Redhead with freckles as a child now dark hair and blue eyes. Ugh.
I wondered about his name as well. There has always been an association between the FTL name and the Storybrooke name.

Better names for August (don't know the character's last name) would have been:
1. Woodrow/Woody
2. Elmer
3. Leif
4. Forrest
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:38 PM   #65
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I wondered about his name as well. There has always been an association between the FTL name and the Storybrooke name.

Better names for August (don't know the character's last name) would have been:
1. Woodrow/Woody
2. Elmer
3. Leif
4. Forrest
August W Booth is what he calls himself, right?
And like Emma since he isn't a victim of the curse, he should have the same name as he had in FTL. Except that he obviously changed it. I'm just curious how it became this.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:14 PM   #66
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August W Booth is what he calls himself, right?
And like Emma since he isn't a victim of the curse, he should have the same name as he had in FTL. Except that he obviously changed it. I'm just curious how it became this.
If he'd stuck with Pinocchio, it woulda kinda ruined the surprise...
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:16 PM   #67
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If he'd stuck with Pinocchio, it woulda kinda ruined the surprise...
Plus, who the hell is named Pinocchio?
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:04 PM   #68
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Plus, who the hell is named Pinocchio?
It's actually the #1 baby name in Italy for boys made of wood...
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Something I noticed on rewatch- when the source of all this trouble Blue Fairy made Pinocchio a real boy she told him that as long as he remained "brave, truthful, and unselfish" he would remain a real boy. The next scene was August telephoning Mr. Gold and then collapsing in another woody spasm.
This phrase "brave, truthful, and unselfish" was repeated again in the episode reminding Pinocchio what is required of him to remain real.
I just wondered if perhaps August is up to something not quite "brave, truthful, and unselfish" and maybe that explained the return of the wood.
Just a thought.
I think it's pretty clear that his motives have been the opposite of "brave, truthful, and unselfish" since he first appeared in Storybrooke. He stole the book and inserted the story without telling anyone. He's conspiring with someone mysterious on the phone. He lied to Gold and tried to convince Gold that he was Baelfire. He used Henry as cover while he tried to steal something from Gold. This episode was the first time since he's been on the show that he appeared to do something truthful, by telling Emma the truth, but it still seems selfish, because it appears the only reason he's telling her the truth is because he's turning to wood.

As for the buxom blue fairy, I wish her counterpart in the real world weren't the Mother Superior of the convent, so we could see some of that cleavage on a full-sized person.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:54 PM   #70
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If he'd stuck with Pinocchio, it woulda kinda ruined the surprise...
Woody would have given it away too.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:16 PM   #71
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Woody would have given it away too.
As would pretty much anything that's been suggested.

Clearly, they didn't give him a resonant name for that purpose. And his existence in the "mundane" world would give them an excuse to give him a mundane name.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:18 PM   #72
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Woody would have given it away too.
But if his name was August Woodman, that would've been more subtle.
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But if his name was August Woodman, that would've been more subtle.
ROFL, that's a better porn name.
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He says he is sick, and he also said in this episode that she Emma came to Storybrook, time started to progress, and THAT was when he first realized that he was now dying. Unfortunately, he was partying on the other side of the world at the time.

His actions have been nothing but selfish, as were Geppetto's when he insisted on saving Pinocchio instead of Charming and pregnant Snow. The Pinocchio CHOSE to leave the orphanage instead of staying and taking care of Emma, as he had promised to--selfish AND dishonest. I don't know about being brave, but he has shown a LOT of non-truthfullness, and selfishness.

According to the blue fairy, who gets her prophecies from where exactly? Emma is destined to break the curse, in her 28th year (I think that's right). Whatever she is doing will enable her to accomplish that goal.

Here is the long-term issue as far as I'm concerned: When the curse is lifted, what happens? Do they all return to FTL, or will lifting the curse be just a stepping stone to returning to where they came from? Master reset, or not? What if some of them want to stay? If Rumple hasn't found his son yet, will he prohibit Emma from succeeding until he finds Bae?

If the "caves" under the city are the remains of the mines of the dwarfs, then that would suggest that FTL did move, or translate to our world. Sometimes a cave is just a cave.
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:15 PM   #75
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I have a question about a character and guest star for an upcoming episode/episodes. I'm going to spoilerize, but am hoping someone will know:

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When will Sebastian Stan be returning as Jefferson? I've read a few places that he is supposed to be returning for two more episodes season 1 - there are only 2 eps left, right? So he should be in both? Can anyone confirm?


My cable must have gone out on Sunday as I was out of town and nothing recorded, so I missed this episode. I'm not terribly heartbroken about it.
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I have a question about a character and guest star for an upcoming episode/episodes. I'm going to spoilerize, but am hoping someone will know:

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When will Sebastian Stan be returning as Jefferson? I've read a few places that he is supposed to be returning for two more episodes season 1 - there are only 2 eps left, right? So he should be in both? Can anyone confirm?


My cable must have gone out on Sunday as I was out of town and nothing recorded, so I missed this episode. I'm not terribly heartbroken about it.
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I don't know for sure about both but he's definitely supposed to be in the next one. Synopsis doesn't mention his character but he's listed in the credits:

Once Upon a Time "An Apple Red as Blood" 121 (ABC, Sun May 6 8 pm). Henry begs Emma to stay in Storybrooke, but Regina is already hatching a plan to get rid of her for good. Meanwhile, in the fairy-tale world, Snow White calls on her allies to attack the Evil Queen and save Prince Charming. Guest Cast: Meghan Ory (Ruby/Red Riding Hood); Eion Bailey (August); Alan Dale (Decker/King George); Sebastian Stan (Jefferson David); Paul Grove (Doc); Lee Arenberg (Leroy/Grumpy); Beverley Elliott (Granny); Michael Coleman (Happy); Gabe Khouth (Mr. Clark/Sneezy); Keegan Connor Tracy (Mother Superior/Blue Fairy).

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Okay, was it just my own perverse nature or was the Blue Fairy letting it ALL hang out last night?
The FGFDs were at full inflation!

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As for the buxom blue fairy, I wish her counterpart in the real world weren't the Mother Superior of the convent, so we could see some of that cleavage on a full-sized person.
I'm thinking August might have gotten a peek under her habit.

It's obvious that someone gave him wood.
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I loved her in Jake 2.0. Im glad she's back in a completely different kind of role for her. Usually she plays the nerdy girl.
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August W Booth is what he calls himself, right?
And like Emma since he isn't a victim of the curse, he should have the same name as he had in FTL. Except that he obviously changed it. I'm just curious how it became this.
August W Booth...AWB...A Wooden Boy?
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August W Booth...AWB...A Wooden Boy?

That would be quite clever!
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