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Old 02-22-2012, 01:36 AM   #1321
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i took no small satisfaction in pasting in some tivo-themed icons to replace the default applescript icons on my three new 'apps': streambaby, pytivo, and kmttg. i can't thank enough all those who have provided help above the call of duty on here to get several of us running. if any of you developers need testing done, don't hesitate to ask.

i still have some tweaking and additions to make, but at least all the core services of these programs are functioning.

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i took no small satisfaction in pasting in some tivo-themed icons to replace the default applescript icons on my three new 'apps': streambaby, pytivo, and kmttg. i can't thank enough all those who have provided help above the call of duty on here to get several of us running. if any of you developers need testing done, don't hesitate to ask.

i still have some tweaking and additions to make, but at least all the core services of these programs are functioning.

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Congrats on getting it all up and running. That's a good idea to paste a custom Icon on the Apps! I'll have to see what I can find that would work for the Launcher App I linked to. That would definitely take it to the new level.
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pytivo has the perfect one on the forum site:



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pytivo has the perfect one on the forum site:



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Yep. That's perfect.
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Yep. That's perfect.
And no it's not... Let's just say, it doesn't scale well.
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And no it's not... Let's just say, it doesn't scale well.
it is sort of non-proportional (pi, non-proportional, go figure!) for an apple os icon, but you can recognize both symbols in the finder window column file listing once you have your eye adjusted to it and my eyes aren't that great. and it shows up great in icon view although i admit it does have more white space around it than a normal icon. did you get it from the forum site and open it in preview, select all & copy, and then paste into the file info box at the top?

i did use@fofer's tivo icon for my streambaby app though. at least until i find an image of a floater baby ...

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By the way... I keep getting this error message in Console. Says one of my preference plists' is not a dictionary over and over. Is that normal? :

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2/22/12 12:09:44 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:09:44 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:13:14 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x145145].pyTivoLauncher[2744]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:27:31 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x150150].com.apple.Console[2797]) Exited: Killed
2/22/12 12:29:01 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x159159].pyTivo Launcher[2849]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:30:26 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x15d15d].pyTivoLauncher[2864]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:31:23 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x15f15f].pyTivoLauncher[2875]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:32:23 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x15e15e].com.apple.Terminal[2868]) Exited: Killed
2/22/12 1:09:42 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:42 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:43 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:43 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:28:44 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	(com.apple.Safari) Throttling respawn: Will start in 58 seconds
2/22/12 2:16:12 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:12 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:13 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:13 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:14 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:14 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.

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i searched my console/all messages for a few of the strings in your log and they weren't present. are they in the combined log or a specific log? do these log entries stop if you stop pytivo?

if it's a pytivo thing, i'm absolutely sure that one of the pytivo guys can tell you if it's significant or not.

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By the way... I keep getting this error message in Console. Says one of my preference plists' is not a dictionary over and over. Is that normal? :

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2/22/12 12:09:44 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:09:44 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2708]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 12:13:14 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x145145].pyTivoLauncher[2744]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:27:31 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x150150].com.apple.Console[2797]) Exited: Killed
2/22/12 12:29:01 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x159159].pyTivo Launcher[2849]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:30:26 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x15d15d].pyTivoLauncher[2864]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:31:23 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x15f15f].pyTivoLauncher[2875]) Exited: Terminated
2/22/12 12:32:23 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	([0x0-0x15e15e].com.apple.Terminal[2868]) Exited: Killed
2/22/12 1:09:42 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:42 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:43 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:43 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:09:45 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[2953]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 1:28:44 PM	com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[95]	(com.apple.Safari) Throttling respawn: Will start in 58 seconds
2/22/12 2:16:12 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:12 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:13 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:13 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:14 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
2/22/12 2:16:14 PM	PreferenceSyncClient[3046]	Preference plist was NOT a dictionary.
Not coming from pyTivo directly. It's always labeled as such. Also look at the timestamps......your pyTivo launcher logs (i have never seen this either, this must be that Fofer launcher you are using, but is still not an error) are not in the same time frame.

Console receives thousands of log lines per day. Most things are just info and not errors. Don't look too much into it unless you see a problem elsewhere.
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Not coming from pyTivo directly. It's always labeled as such. Also look at the timestamps......your pyTivo launcher logs (i have never seen this either, this must be that Fofer launcher you are using, but is still not an error) are not in the same time frame.

Console receives thousands of log lines per day. Most things are just info and not errors. Don't look too much into it unless you see a problem elsewhere.
I was just concerned since it referenced the word "plist" which I DID mess with by putting the pyTivo.plist into "Launch Agents". But it appears it has nothing to do with that. I removed the .plist and put it on the Desktop and I'm still getting the same errors messages. For all I know, it's been doing that for years.
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I was just concerned since it referenced the word "plist" which I DID mess with by putting the pyTivo.plist into "Launch Agents". But it appears it has nothing to do with that. I removed the .plist and put it on the Desktop and I'm still getting the same errors messages. For all I know, it's been doing that for years.
Well apparently there WAS something wrong after all. I replaced my com.apple.Dictionary.plist, and my com.apple.DictionaryServices.plist with fresh copies and it seems to have solved the problem. No more error messages.
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afaik, .plist is a very generic name for an apple or 3rd party config file. nearly every application has it's own .plist file. i use tinker tool system which is one utility that, among many other functions, will detect corrupted pref or plist files. onyx, which is free, will do the same.

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afaik, .plist is a very generic name for an apple or 3rd party config file. nearly every application has it's own .plist file. i use tinker tool system which is one utility that, among many other functions, will detect corrupted pref or plist files. onyx, which is free, will do the same.

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That's what I think happened here. One of those two was probably corrupted. It was leaving CONSTANT error messages for the last four days. Once I stole some new ones off my wife's MBP (we bought them at the same time) and replace those two in the Prefs folder it's fine. Not a single plist error message since.

I'll go look into Tinkertool and Onyx. Might be worth checking it out and seeing if there are any other problems.
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the onyx developers are very good at updating it to keep up with os releases. i have no hesitation in recommending it, but, as with any such powerful utilities, beware (or at least research thoroughly) some of the more advanced features as you can outsmart yourself in an attempt to clean things up. i speak from bitter experience ...

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the onyx developers are very good at updating it to keep up with os releases. i have no hesitation in recommending it, but, as with any such powerful utilities, beware (or at least research thoroughly) some of the more advanced features as you can outsmart yourself in an attempt to clean things up. i speak from bitter experience ...

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Yeah I see what you mean. I had it repair permissions and I have to admit that made me a little nervous. It brought up about ten pages of stuff. I reset the caches on the system and user fonts and that's about it before it asked me to restart. Any particular section of that tool you'd recommend I run? I was thinking of just going into the "Automation" tab and letting it do it's thing...
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you should be ok on the automation tab with the defaults although you can probably safely check the 'web browser cache' as well. if you check 'launch services' then it will again prompt you each time you launch an application.

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you should be ok on the automation tab with the defaults although you can probably safely check the 'web browser cache' as well. if you check 'launch services' then it will again prompt you each time you launch an application.

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Alright cool. I just ran the defaults and it just got through restarting. All is well, so I guess I did no harm and possibly did some good.
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That's what I think happened here. One of those two was probably corrupted. It was leaving CONSTANT error messages for the last four days. Once I stole some new ones off my wife's MBP (we bought them at the same time) and replace those two in the Prefs folder it's fine. Not a single plist error message since. <del>
a tried-and-true troubleshooting technique is to isolate the suspect .plist file(s) into another directory/folder, then launch the associated application to let it recreate the .plist file. you'll lose any customization you've made to the application, but then again, if it's corrupted you've lost those anyway. delete the isolated files when you're sure everything is working right. this technique is usually cleaner and easier than trying to find copies of the files.

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You know. This is a pretty sweet little program. The guy's got paypal on his website (how smart is THAT?) so I think I'll toss him a contribution. What do you think is a fair for something like this? I never know how much to give these guys...
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a tried-and-true troubleshooting technique is to isolate the suspect .plist file(s) into another directory/folder, then launch the associated application to let it recreate the .plist file. you'll lose any customization you've made to the application, but then again, if it's corrupted you've lost those anyway. delete the isolated files when you're sure everything is working right. this technique is usually cleaner and easier than trying to find copies of the files.

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Ah. I wasn't really sure what a plist file did... It sounds like any other preference file that rebuild's itself. Good to know... I was tempted to put the corrupt ones back in and see if OnyX picked them up.
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You know. This is a pretty sweet little program. The guy's got paypal on his website (how smart is THAT?) so I think I'll toss him a contribution. What do you think is a fair for something like this? I never know how much to give these guys...
just guessing, but i'd think he'd be happy with $5 and ecstatic for $10. you might check out tinker tool and tinker tool system before you settle on one though. tinker tool is free and basically does system tweaks. tinker tool system i think is $10 and seems a little more advanced than onyx, but you can try it with all features for a reasonable amount of time. basically i think it'd come down to which interface you like better.

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off for my weekly grocery shopping. one advantage to being nocturnal is i hardly ever have to fight any crowds! [g]

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just guessing, but i'd think he'd be happy with $5 and ecstatic for $10. you might check out tinker tool and tinker tool system before you settle on one though. tinker tool is free and basically does system tweaks. tinker tool system i think is $10 and seems a little more advanced than onyx, but you can try it with all features for a reasonable amount of time. basically i think it'd come down to which interface you like better.

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Dang. I'll take it. I think he deserves it just for being smart enough to have paypal.

And speaking of... I asked the guys at the pyTivo site if there was a way to donate and I never got any word back. Do they have a way to donate? After putting up with me, they deserve a few bucks.


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Well I tried to donate but apparently the guy is in France and the paypal system he uses doesn't accept American $$$. I emailed the guy to see if there's a work around.

ETA: Oh, and I checked out Tinker Tool. That's a pretty cool program too. It seems to have a bit of a different purpose though. I could see the need to have both, really, and I may do that. Lots of very cool tweaks to the system that I wasn't aware of. That's for sure... I'm gonna keep it for a few days and see what else it can do.
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Tinkertool is free. But there's a different app called Tinkertool System, that is more like Onyx in its purpose, that costs about $14 US. It's extensive, elegant -- and quite a bit more "explanatory" than Onyx. I just paid for it. It's seriously impressive.
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Can you tell us what happened in that experience please so that we may learn from your unfortunate mistake and know what to avoid?

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i can't remember exact incidents, but my point was that you don't want to automatically delete something just because a utility recommends you do because it's a duplicate or flagged as corrupted. in a perfect world you'd do a backup before running some of the tools that go deeper into the system. of course this is less of an issue nowadays if you're running an active time machine volume.

and thanks for pointing out the differences between tinkertool and tts. i've been running tinkertool since it first came out and the guy who programs it is among the most conscientious to make sure no harm will come to your system. and i recently had a startup problem on a mac pro and tinkertool system has a command line diagnostics and repair tool that you can pause the startup to run.

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