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01-05-2012, 10:55 PM
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The version is showing as 20.2-01-2-748 on my XL. None of my other boxes got the update.
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Nice what is the ui and flash version? My xl is still applying the update.
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01-05-2012, 10:58 PM
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Engadget is confirming that MRS is enabled in this release. Zatz shouldn't have gone to bed, he got scooped!
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01-05-2012, 11:00 PM
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Engadget is confirming that MRS is enabled in this release. Zatz shouldn't have gone to bed, he got scooped!
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But there is no way to test unless you have multiple boxes with the new update.
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01-05-2012, 11:02 PM
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But there is no way to test unless you have multiple boxes with the new update.
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I believe their source is TiVo. Of course the devil is in the details. Does streaming obey copy restrictions on digital content?
If yes, then yawn. If no, then they may have just sold another Premiere
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01-05-2012, 11:02 PM
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Nice what is the ui and flash version? My xl is still applying the update.
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Flash Player version is 20-2-mr/2011.12.06-2105
HD Menu Software version is b-iris-2-0-mr/2011.12.16-1451
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01-05-2012, 11:05 PM
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I believe their source is TiVo. Of course the devil is in the details. Does streaming obey copy restrictions on digital content?
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No streaming ignores the copy flags since it streams rather than copies. I think Aaron meant more to test performance rather than verify it exists.
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01-05-2012, 11:06 PM
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No streaming ignores the copy flags since it streams rather than copies. I think Aaron meant more to test performance rather than verify it exists.
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Yes. I can't check it out since my other boxes did not get updated.
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01-05-2012, 11:07 PM
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I believe their source is TiVo. Of course the devil is in the details. Does streaming obey copy restrictions on digital content?
If yes, then yawn. If no, then they may have just sold another Premiere
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The whole point of streaming is to enable streaming of content flagged as copy once. This will allow you to stream most content that is flagged by cable companies.
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01-05-2012, 11:08 PM
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My Discovery bar is now only showing four items. And it won't scroll to other items like it used too. That should please some people.
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01-05-2012, 11:18 PM
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Did't the progress bar used to show minutes and seconds? Now it just shows minutes.
It's also still upconverting to 720P even when 480P is checked.
FF is the same as before too. I like it anyway.
This is definitely a nice change. I only wish all my boxes got the update, or at least my Elite too since I use my Elite the most often.
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01-05-2012, 11:19 PM
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Any changes to TiVo Central?
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01-05-2012, 11:21 PM
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The settings menu is different. Looks almost HD now.
Not sure I like the discovery bar now. The shows are labeled such as top pick okay, popular on web, my shows, etc. same as Aaron though I can't scroll anymore.
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01-05-2012, 11:22 PM
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The settings menu is different. Looks almost HD now.
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Mine looks like it's SD with an HD TiVo guy. The text is not sharp like it would be in HD.
The background is different though.
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01-05-2012, 11:23 PM
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The whole point of streaming is to enable streaming of content flagged as copy once. This will allow you to stream most content that is flagged by cable companies.
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Ah, then they have sold another Premiere a few paychecks down the road
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01-05-2012, 11:25 PM
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TiVoDesign: "More you say? Here's one with a few changes to spot."
https://twitter.com/tivodesign/statu...54455208267776
I don't know what's different here, I don't use the search screen all that much
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01-05-2012, 11:25 PM
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A few more update tidbits...
Yes, Multi-Room Streaming is coming with this release, but it is enabled a little bit differently, so it won't be turned on until everyone has been updated.
Hulu Plus is now integrated into Search.
(It isn't any fun if I tell you *everything*, right?)
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01-05-2012, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
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Yes, Multi-Room Streaming is coming with this release, but it is enabled a little bit differently, so it won't be turned on until everyone has been updated.
Hulu Plus is now integrated into Search.
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Only if you do once it rolls out to everyone so we can confirm we found it all.
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01-05-2012, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
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Did't the progress bar used to show minutes and seconds? Now it just shows minutes.
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Looks like my un-upgraded units show only minutes - so perhaps no change there.
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01-05-2012, 11:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TiVoMargret
Yes, Multi-Room Streaming is coming with this release, but it is enabled a little bit differently, so it won't be turned on until everyone has been updated.
Hulu Plus is now integrated into Search.
(It isn't any fun if I tell you *everything*, right?)
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You guys are, in my mind, the Apple of DVRs, but I hope you'll release more detailed release notes than they do  More transparency is better than less, always. Especially when you have a technically adept user base and community like us nerds here
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01-05-2012, 11:30 PM
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Mine looks like it's SD with an HD TiVo guy. The text is not sharp like it would be in HD.
The background is different though.
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Yeah I am seeing the same.
Yes the minutes under the progress bar is new. Previously we only saw arrows at least in the HDUI.
The skip time is centered again.
The guide looks good. I hope there are plans to add functionality though. It would be nice to see more added at least under options.
Also from the latest tweet you can stations in search results now.
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01-05-2012, 11:32 PM
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01-05-2012, 11:32 PM
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Only if you do once it rolls out to everyone so we can confirm we found it all.
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I will do my best, but you may find more than I remember. (I've had this update for awhile now.)
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01-05-2012, 11:32 PM
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Looks like (by the live icons and text on right) the results now show you the different content providers right in the list - select to view. That should make it a but less menu cascadey and help get people to content quicker.
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01-05-2012, 11:33 PM
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I am freaking out if I don't get this update soon, kittens die. BTW this is what Tivo needs PR good PR
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01-05-2012, 11:38 PM
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I will do my best, but you may find more than I remember. (I've had this update for awhile now.)
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Works for me.
I just noticed the menus have a sort of animated flip style to them when changing from TiVo Central to My Shows, and they seem to be a tad quicker.
Also with regards to search. You now have an option to create wishlists based off your search. For example if you search NBC, above Youtube results for NBC, you now have an option to create a wishlist for NBC.
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01-05-2012, 11:41 PM
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Here's a higher-res version of the Virgin Tivo guide (with recording indicators), which is probably pretty close to what we're getting:
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01-05-2012, 11:44 PM
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Here's a higher-res version of the Virgin Tivo guide (with recording indicators), which is probably pretty close to what we're getting:

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We don't have Season Pass indicators assuming that is what those triple circles mean. We only have what is being recorded so far.
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01-05-2012, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by innocentfreak
Also with regards to search. You now have an option to create wishlists based off your search. For example if you search NBC, above Youtube results for NBC, you now have an option to create a wishlist for NBC.
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That's not new. It's been that way for a very long time, I think since the Premiere came out. You could always create Wish Lists if you scrolled all the way to the bottom of the results.
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01-05-2012, 11:49 PM
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We don't have Season Pass indicators assuming that is what those triple circles mean. We only have what is being recorded so far.
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Oh I'd like those Season Pass indicators. The DirecTV DVRs have something like that, which were carried over from the old Microsoft UltimateTVs (that may be patented or similar, though. Maybe why we don't have them in the US?)
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That's not new. It's been that way for a very long time, I think since the Premiere came out. You could always create Wish Lists if you scrolled all the way to the bottom of the results.
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Didn't give me the option on my Elite. I tried it and I only got results and Youtube.
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