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Old 08-10-2011, 08:14 PM   #31
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Your brother actually bought the 900 just for the colored buttons??? With no need for the RF/IR repeaters? Wow.
yes. Amazon actually sent him the H1 by mistake and he had to return it to get the 900 sent to him. At least they gave him a $10 or $20 credit for the trouble.
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:38 AM   #32
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We actually use two Ones and a 700 in the living room. Very non-supported, because those remotes can't talk to each other - so you have to be aware of the status.

Why so many? Well, One #1 was bought in January 2009, so it's now 2.5 years old. In late 2010, the battery swelled up badly and Logitech replaced it and allowed us to keep the old remote "at our own risk." I was able to remove the swollen battery with a kitchen knife and some well-placed swear words. Replaced with one I got on Ebay. The only downside is, if we ever substantially change our setup, the setup for that remote can't be changed.

The other one is the warranty replacement from late 2010. It's much newer, obviously, but isn't really any different aside from no switch to turn the little light off on the charging base. Neither remote has ever had an issue, though keys sometimes need to be cleaned and the screen needs to be wiped down occasionally.

Finally, there's a Harmony 700, which I got in mid-2009 as part of the beta. It came with two Eneloop AA batteries - it is a bit annoying to charge it by plugging in the cable, but I could just switch the batteries if I wanted to. Probably a bit more user-friendly in the end if you're the type who just swaps in new AA's to whatever remote. My wife actually prefers the 700 to the Ones - she likes the softer, rubbery buttons on the 700 where the One has more hard plastic. Functionwise they're essentially the same, though obviously the 700 is limited to I think six devices. In my case, that just means the 700 doesn't drive the Roomba, where the Ones will. Haven't done that in awhile, but it makes a great joke to play on guests, surreptitiously driving the Roomba with your remote... but I digress.

Point is, if you don't need the extra devices of the One or 900 (with RF) then there's really no reason to go much beyond the 700 in my mind. The 1100 and so on are fine if you like that type of thing - but I've only really looked at "traditional remote form factor" remotes. Honestly, I know I'll lose a One when my setup changes at some point, but having multiple universal remotes in the living room has been a boon when you can never find the one you need thanks to the kids. Just have to make sure everyone knows to make sure it's in the right mode before switching things around. Even my 5-year-old knows how to do everything on both remote styles, so it's pretty easy to pick up.
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Old 08-11-2011, 04:40 AM   #33
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Picked up a 650 last night (it also has the 4 colored buttons, BTW) to replace an 880 that died.

While the One was tempting again (I had it previously), I wanted something that I wouldn't curse out if something failed; like the charging pad did for the One.

Did some basic tests and it seems to work ok - Hopefully no regrets with this purchase; except for the whole buying it at BB with sales tax added.
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Old 08-11-2011, 05:33 AM   #34
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Of course many people also like full touch screen remotes too. It a matter of preference. But for me, with regular use controlling a device, I don't want to have to always look at a remote to use it.
I don't ever want to have to look at a remote I am using. First of all, I can't read them. Unless the screen were about the size of a toaster, I generally can't readily see what's on the screen. Any remote I use I want to be able to control entirely by feel. Secondly, any remote that employs macros can be problematical. Sure, they are a great convenience when they work, but a macro based command can turn into a big mess if one of the commands is lost, which happens quite often. The problems are compounded considerably when the video system sits behind the audience, as it does in my case. First of all, in this configuration a lost command is even more likely than with a video system at the front of the room. Secondly, getting up and walking to the back of the room to figure out which device didn't do what it should have done is a significant hassle, especially if someone is sitting in one of the rear seats and reclining. Finally, there is the cost. Dealing with four different primary remotes is just not serviceable, so if I were to go with a Harmony remote, I would have to buy four of them. That's a very daunting outlay of cash.

Since I almost never watch anything but the TiVo anyway, I almost never have to pick up anything but the TiVo remote in the first place, so it's really not a big deal. The one exception is when I am listening to music in the living room. When I put on music there, I use Galleon on the TiVo to start the music. I usually turn off the TV then, however. I use the TV's remote features to control the AVR, but with the TV off, that no longer works, so I have to go pick up the AVR remote to control the music volume.
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You can use on of the logitech IR extenders.

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Old 08-11-2011, 01:58 PM   #36
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We actually use two Ones ... The only downside is, if we ever substantially change our setup, the setup for that remote can't be changed.
Unless I misunderstand or Logitech has changed something, you are fully capable of configuring two separate controllers. I have two 890s that I maintain configurations.

The "trick" is simply to create another account for the second remote. There is no way other than to manually copy the settings from the established controller to the second controller. And any future changes you make on one must be manually replicated to the other. But you can keep multiple controllers in synch and up to date with your system.
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Unless I misunderstand or Logitech has changed something, you are fully capable of configuring two separate controllers. I have two 890s that I maintain configurations.

The "trick" is simply to create another account for the second remote. There is no way other than to manually copy the settings from the established controller to the second controller. And any future changes you make on one must be manually replicated to the other. But you can keep multiple controllers in synch and up to date with your system.
He got a warranty replacement for one of the two but Logitech allowed him to keep it and since there is nothing wrong with it, he continues to use it. I will assume it is dead to the Logitech site and can't be updated.
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He got a warranty replacement for one of the two but Logitech allowed him to keep it and since there is nothing wrong with it, he continues to use it. I will assume it is dead to the Logitech site and can't be updated.
I understood the terms. I don't know that it is a reasonable assumption that "it is dead to the Logitech site". I hope TheWGP will let us know if he can or can not create a second account as suggested.

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I understood the terms. I don't know that it is a reasonable assumption that "it is dead to the Logitech site". I hope TheWGP will let us know if he can or can not create a second account as suggested.

Curious minds want to know.
I didn't give it a second thought, if an item has been replaced under warranty but not returned, the instructions are likely toss in the trash. It can't be difficult for Logitech to retire any junked remotes, making them unable to access the site. It is cheaper than paying to return the remote, although in this case returning it and selling it as refurbished would have made more sense.
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Yes, it is dead to the Logitech site. That's how they handle warranty replacements. When one of the buttons on my 880 died, Logitech said they would replace it with a One and removed the 880 from their system. My wife became very upset - she likes the 880 and hates the One (I mentioned this before), and she was willing to put up with the loss of the button (the digit 3, which I could program onto a soft button). I asked and Logitech canceled the exchange and restored the 880 to service.
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Yes, it is dead to the Logitech site. That's how they handle warranty replacements.
Good to know! I wouldn't have guessed.
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Ok so I got one of those 50% off any one item custom coupons from Logitech today.
Yeah, I got one too... debating between the Bluetooth iPad keyboard (not case), Squeezebox Radio for the nightstand, or a decent pair of earbuds. I also was thinking about the Bluetooth speaker (z515) in place of the Radio. Hmmm. Wish I had two or three coupons, I'd get it all.
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I have to say, I went from a 880 to a one, and I think I prefer the 880. The touchscreen actually turns out to be a somewhat of a hassle. It's hard to explain, but you have to re-position the remote in your hand to hit the touch buttons(never had to do that with the 880) and it forces you to hit the wrong touch button fairly frequently (at least for me).

Don't get me wrong, it's still far and away better than any other 'universal' out there. It's not a large complaint or anything, but I think I preferred the hard buttons over the touch.

As for the review.. I've heard nothing but complaints about it. From what I know even $50 is too much for it. IR blasters always suck, and no provider is really allowing it to pull data, except youtube and netflix. You already get those on your Tivo, so IMO it's not worth $50 to get a web browser on your TV. Well, it may be to you, but it's yet another box hooked to your TV that you have to control.

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I didn't use my coupon on a remote, I went for K800 wireless keyboard. Should be here tomorrow.
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As for the review.. I've heard nothing but complaints about it. From what I know even $50 is too much for it. IR blasters always suck, and no provider is really allowing it to pull data, except youtube and netflix. You already get those on your Tivo, so IMO it's not worth $50 to get a web browser on your TV. Well, it may be to you, but it's yet another box hooked to your TV that you have to control.

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Most complaints I have read about the Revue are like this one, from someone that apparently knows nothing about it and apparently hasn't used it. About 95% of sites I have accessed are not blocked but any sites that are blocked are the fault of the site, not the Revue in my opinion and that is just bad business on their part. I don't understand what the attraction is to blocking inexpensive devices from access but allowing traditional computers, nor how that is going to work out to that company's benefit. I don't use my Revue to control other devices but like any that does use IR blasters, has the exact same issues and requires proper set up.

The Revue is used as part of my plan to avoid monthy satellite or cable bills and works precisely as I hoped it would. I don't use it to play content from my network or from drives connected by USB port, just stream video from the internet. PGA.com allowed streaming of their PGA broadcast the last four days. I have watched a few public domain movies from various sites like Jaman, Crackle, and Free Movies Cinema in the week I have owned it.

I can see that cable companies don't like Google TV and I do think it is misleading to promote the product as a good device to use in conjunction with a digital cable box. I am sure it works fine to integrate cable and internet streaming if that is what is wanted but my bet is a majority of users are going to use it in the manner I do, as part of the solution to avoid cable bills, not enhance cable service.

As far as this promotion, it doesn't matter if the Revue is a good choice, the coupon can't be used to purchase it now. Now you can say you have heard of at least one positive comment and it comes form someone that has purchased and is using the product.
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I didn't use my coupon on a remote, I went for K800 wireless keyboard. Should be here tomorrow.

oooh!! How is that?! I didn't even realize there were any backlit wireless keyboards.
How good is the battery life?
I think it might be time to change out my current BlueTooth Logitech Keyboard.

I think when I return my Revue I will pick up that K800 instead. Thanks!
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oooh!! How is that?! I didn't even realize there were any backlit wireless keyboards.
That is pretty exciting! I run through a wireless keyboard or two a year so I try to keep the price down, but that's a feature worth paying a little extra for. I just watched a demo clip (on Amazon) and it looks it turns off the backlighting very quickly after you stop using it; it can be activated just by waving your hand over it or touching any key.

I'm typing this with a recently purchased K520 (the K800's keyboard seems to be identical, except for the backlight). I may haved to put this one aside as a spare .
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Yeah, I got one too... debating between the Bluetooth iPad keyboard (not case), Squeezebox Radio for the nightstand, or a decent pair of earbuds. I also was thinking about the Bluetooth speaker (z515) in place of the Radio. Hmmm. Wish I had two or three coupons, I'd get it all.
I ended up getting the Bluetooth iPad keyboard (which will work with more than iPads). Not a great value, the Radio would have been a better deal. But I have a more immediate need/project.



Since the keyboard has an on/off toggle, better than Apple's, I'll probably dump the case/stand and just throw the keyboard in a bag when/if traveling with it.
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Well I decided to get a good set of earbud earphones.

Decided on the Ultimate Ears™ 700 Noise-Isolating Earphones

Seemed like a good deal for $75 as the price on the web was close to the $150 and they got an Excellent rating from Cnet Reviews at the $150 level.

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I bought the Harmony 650 with my coupon. For $35, I can retire my JP1 remote in my third system since I can't even remember how to update the remote using JP1 which was always very difficult for me. I hope the remote is as good as it appears to be based on the reviews and appearance. It adds the reg/green/blue/yellow buttons compared to the One and since I only need 4 devices in that system, it should be perfect and still work essentially the same as the One I use in systems one and two.
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I own a bunch of Logitech products and everything was registered. Two Harmony remotes, a web cam, keyboard, 2 mice even two game controllers and i didnt get no stinking coupons..bummer
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I own a bunch of Logitech products and everything was registered. Two Harmony remotes, a web cam, keyboard, 2 mice even two game controllers and i didnt get no stinking coupons..bummer
I think signing up for email offers is required to get this promotion. If I recall correctly, you are given the option when registering a product and you can decline to receive offers. Have you been receiving email from Logitech after you registered a product?
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I own a bunch of Logitech products and everything was registered. Two Harmony remotes, a web cam, keyboard, 2 mice even two game controllers and i didnt get no stinking coupons..bummer
Me neither. I'll check my account and turn on the offers if it is off.

I love my 3 yr old Harmony 890 remote w/extender and just replaced my old 550 remote w/650 remote. I wouldn't be happy if I didn't have these remotes.
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My BT iPad keyboard arrived today. Unfortunately, it was the Android version. Probably the only difference is in how the function keys are silk screened and what they do. Not sure I care enough to mess with the RMA/exchange process, but I'd take a small hit if I ever try to resell it. Then again, it's a low ticket item and will probably just end up in a junk drawer if/when that time ever came. Hm. :/
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Are they still sending out 50% off coupons? I got a 20% coupon from Logitech this week, but no 50% coupon.
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That is pretty exciting! I run through a wireless keyboard or two a year so I try to keep the price down, but that's a feature worth paying a little extra for. I just watched a demo clip (on Amazon) and it looks it turns off the backlighting very quickly after you stop using it; it can be activated just by waving your hand over it or touching any key.

I'm typing this with a recently purchased K520 (the K800's keyboard seems to be identical, except for the backlight). I may haved to put this one aside as a spare .
I got the K800 this morning after returning my Revue. The only good thing about the Revue was it's keyboard, but I have no use for a keyboard like that anymore. For me the K800 was a much better value than the Revue ever was.

I still need to get a used to K800 but at least it's quiet compared to my old Logitech MX5500 keyboard.
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I got the K800 this morning after returning my Revue. The only good thing about the Revue was it's keyboard, but I have no use for a keyboard like that anymore. For me the K800 was a much better value than the Revue ever was.

I still need to get a used to K800 but at least it's quiet compared to my old Logitech MX5500 keyboard.
Got mine this morning and am using it now. It's almost identical to the K520 except that the latter has six thin silver buttons at the top of the keyboard for playback and volume control; the K800 has the the 3 playback controls mapped as FN-shifted F key functions and the 3 volume controls mapped to dedicated special purpose keys above the numeric pad (the function of those keys on the K520 was never clear to me). Two FN-shifted F keys are mapped to backlight control, so 5 of the FN-shifted F key commands and 3 of the functions of the keys over the numeric pad aren't present on the K800. I didn't really use them anyway.

Weird and unexpected that it's got a USB rechargeable battery. Not much of a problem since I have a very long powered USB extension cord running from my PC which can run right up to the laptop cart that I use for keyboard and mouse, so I can use the keyboard while recharging it easily enough. It's supposed to set the backlight level according to ambient light but it chose to set it non-0% in a mildly day-lit room; easily adjusted. It works perfectly with the "Unified" USB BT transceiver that came with the K520, so I'm storing the new one in a spot provided for it inside of the mouse which came with the K520. Overall, it's nice .
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I think the Harmony 650 I picked up with this coupon is very nice and a good deal at 50% off.
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I got a 50% off coupon today. I'm really eyeing the Z906 Speaker System. It'd be a great cheap way to get surround sound in my garage office. I'm not a huge fan of the shape/design of the One Remotes and I've already got a logitech remote anyway.

I've got until next tuesday to make up my mind, but the speakers seem like the best choice for me.
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