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Old 05-23-2010, 11:02 PM   #121
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Never missed an episode and obsessed just like all of your over the last six years. All I can say is that I'm content.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:02 PM   #122
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Michael wasn't there because he was stuck on the island for being a d-bag, and Walt was a kid and they really weren't friends with him, so he wasn't part of their afterlife.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:03 PM   #123
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I'm more confused with this show than I ever was.
Why? Seemed pretty clear.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:03 PM   #124
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Should of went with the autistic boy and the snow globe.
I loved that show. One of my favorite shows in the 80's
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:03 PM   #125
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Why? Seemed pretty clear.
A LOT clearer than I thought they could possibly make it.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:04 PM   #126
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What about Helen? What about Nadia?
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:04 PM   #127
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A lot of the mystery island stuff meant way more to us then it did to the story. The island wasn't normal. Not liking the ending because it didn't answer little things is selling short the great characters and stories we had for 6 seasons. The characters mattered most. Who cares how many toes a statue had?
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:06 PM   #128
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What about Helen? What about Nadia?
Not everyone was there. Some could still be alive.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:06 PM   #129
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The church was still in purgatory. Vincent (like all dogs) gets to skip that step
I thought animals don't have souls?
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:06 PM   #130
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Not everyone was there. Some could still be alive.
But, time has no meaning there.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:06 PM   #131
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I think folks are using a little too much revisionist history if looking back they're saying it was all about the human characters and the island mythology was secondary.
Not revising anything. Don't need to, I loved the ride. You're looking for something that's not there. You won't be happy.
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But, time has no meaning there.
They get there when they are ready to be there. Not everyone was ready at the same time.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:08 PM   #133
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don't get all this love - i though it was a huge pile of suck, i actually came away laughing at how bad of an ending it was. i guess i'm alone. cheap way out across the board, horrible plotline/ending and just a big letdown in my view. i'll be interested to continue to read ya'll theories and love for how it all played out, for sure.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:08 PM   #134
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Anyone else thing the apollo bar in the machine was a parallel for the island endgame? That's what I thought jkeegan was talking about earlier, from the episode - "If you unplug it and plug it back in, the candy drops down. And, it's technicall legal."

Pull the power of the island and the rules change - MIB can die.

Love it!
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:09 PM   #135
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Guess I'm ready for Kimmel. Hope it's not all comedy bits.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:09 PM   #136
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Not everyone was there. Some could still be alive.
No one is alive and that includes your great grandchildren. We all die sometimes.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:10 PM   #137
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Should of went with the autistic boy and the snow globe.
There's a theory out there that Lost (and about 300 other series) happened inside the snow globe because of minor crossovers throughout television. The fact that Oceanic is the universal airline for most TV shows is a big connector.
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Anyone else thing the apollo bar in the machine was a parallel for the island endgame? That's what I thought jkeegan was talking about earlier, from the episode - "If you unplug it and plug it back in, the candy drops down. And, it's technicall legal."

Pull the power of the island and the rules change - MIB can die.

Love it!
Of course it was the same!
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How did Jack get out the hole?
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:11 PM   #140
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The island wasn't purgatory, which was what Darlton said all along, but the alt-timeline was.
Which is awesome!
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No one is alive and that includes your great grandchildren. We all die sometimes.
Sometime. I don't think we die more than once.
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Anyone else thing the apollo bar in the machine was a parallel for the island endgame? That's what I thought jkeegan was talking about earlier, from the episode - "If you unplug it and plug it back in, the candy drops down. And, it's technicall legal."

Pull the power of the island and the rules change - MIB can die.

Love it!
And this.

Some awesome writing in this episode!
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How did Jack get out the hole?
How did Desmond wind up naked in the middle of the woods? How did Jack wind up in a stand of bamboo after 815 crashed?
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Let Brother Jimmy Kimmel explain it all to you.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:13 PM   #145
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How did Jack get out the hole?
I thought it was the same as when the MIB got smoke-ified, except he was still alive. The scenes looked similar, except Jack wasn't dead yet and didn't have a smoke monster come out of him. I'm guessing he just got blasted out somehow. Or "island magic."
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What a horrible, steaming pile of garbage. The series would have been far better ending at the episode prior to this one. Because even the most meager imaginations provide for a better ending than this. For all this episode did to bring any kind of relevance to six years of this, it may as well have ended like that infamous season of Dallas began... except that might have been more satisfying itself.
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Of course it was the same!
It's late and I still can't get my mind around everything. I expect to be a master of the obvious.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:14 PM   #148
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How did Desmond wind up naked in the middle of the woods? How did Jack wind up in a stand of bamboo after 815 crashed?
Exactly.

It doesn't matter.

Some things are done for imagery on this show. Jack came full circle. His death essentially re-played the opening scene of the series in reverse. Like birth to death.

Excellent imagery there.
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:14 PM   #149
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How is it possible for the nuke to have gone off if the Island was still there? Wouldn't a nuke have destroyed the island? Since they moved into the future and the island was still there, ergo, clearly, the nuke didn't go off.
The nuke went off. It interacted with the electromagnetism and caused the losties to jump back to their own time (with no energy leftover to irradiate the island).
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As for the rest, the island was magical, had special properties, there is no possible logical explanation they could ever offer.
Exactly. From the instant we saw the smoke monster years ago (I think that was the first truly supernatural thing we saw), we had to know there were some things that could never be explained. It's like Superman. Where did he get his powers? From Krypton's sun (if I recall correctly). But why? What was special about the sun? How exactly did it give him his powers?

Once you hit into something supernatural, there is never going to be an explanation that explains everything. In most other shows/movies, we're generally content to say "ok, mysterious thing X made things the way they are...now lets move on with the story". I think in Lost, we all got so caught up in solving mystery's, I think some people just can't let go and stop wanting an endless series of explanations.

For myself, I think I had enough things explained that I was satisfied with the outcome. It was resolved so that there were a small enough number of unanswered questions for me to be comfortable with. Knowing some more of those answers, like the history of Jacobs mom and what exactly the magical light was and how it got there...to me that's about as important as knowing exactly why Krypton's sun gave superman his powers. I don't think knowing additional details there would add significantly to my appreciation, so I'm content to just say "that's just how things are, so lets move on"
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