Software version 11.0c

[seattlewendell]

I just got software version 11.0c
The only difference I notice so far is when I pause a show, Tivo gives me a "do I want more information about show X" pop-up.
Anyone else notice anything new?

[wmcbrine]

So they finally brought that horrible misfeature over from the Series 2? Ugh. I was hoping we might be spared.

[RoyK]

I can't believe they would bring that nearly universally lambasted crappy "feature" over to the S3. I didn't think they would be that stupid.

[Dssturbo1]

Just got 11.0c on one of my S3s. sorry, haven't seen anything new to report.

besides hopefully fixing some bugs they also need to push an update to the Tivo HD and HD XL models for compatability with the new 1Gb My DVR expander. seems one tc member already got one delivered from amazon before it was supposed to be released.

[danjw1]

Originally Posted by wmcbrine

So they finally brought that horrible misfeature over from the Series 2? Ugh. I was hoping we might be spared.

Why is this so bad? I just tried it to check it out. If I pause a show, I get a bar above the bar that tells me how far I am into the program, that offers me the choice to see more information on the show. I don't see anything egregious about this. If you select it, it takes you into the page you would get from a swivel search for that show. As soon as I press play, the bar goes away. So, I have to say I don't know why people would mind this so much. I actually think this could be nice, say I see an actor/actress I recognize and can't quite figure out who it is(or can't quite come up with the name), I can pause and look at a cast list. And quickly get back to the show. I just don't see why anyone would feel particularly put off by this feature?

[steve614]

It's just more $h1t on the screen that doesn't need to be there.

If I want more information about a show I'm watching, I know where to go without the additional ''help''.

[nrc]

Originally Posted by danjw1

Why is this so bad? I just tried it to check it out. If I pause a show, I get a bar above the bar that tells me how far I am into the program, that offers me the choice to see more information on the show.

I like the idea in general, but they could have just put a text blurb under the status bar to press whatever for program info. The real reason for the way the pause banner has been made so obtrusive is to provide a place for ads during pause.

No, it's not the end of the world, it's just one more bit of flotsam cluttering up TiVo's once elegant interface.

[realityboy]

I'm not a fan of that feature either. I hope this solves my problems with suggestions though since that has been ongoing for a bit.

In the past month or so, I've also had issues with a frozen screen/reboot when trying to transfer a show. It has happened twice, and both times it was repeatable with those 2 shows. Every time I tried that particular show it would freeze, but other shows transferred successfully.

[sbourgeo]

I can live with the popup as long as this finally fixes the disappearing analog channels problem.

[MichaelK]

Originally Posted by danjw1

Why is this so bad? I just tried it to check it out. If I pause a show, I get a bar above the bar that tells me how far I am into the program, that offers me the choice to see more information on the show. I don't see anything egregious about this. If you select it, it takes you into the page you would get from a swivel search for that show. As soon as I press play, the bar goes away. So, I have to say I don't know why people would mind this so much. I actually think this could be nice, say I see an actor/actress I recognize and can't quite figure out who it is(or can't quite come up with the name), I can pause and look at a cast list. And quickly get back to the show. I just don't see why anyone would feel particularly put off by this feature?

some people just don’t like change.

it's part of human nature for some.

that an reminiscing about how things were better way back when.

"when i was a kid we walked UPHILL both ways to school 20 miles in the snow 2 feet deep and we were better for it...."

Other people have a legitimate dislike.

But honestly I think many just complain as a knee-jerk reaction without seeing the new things. Witness all the threads here with people complaining about new features that aren't released or that the individual poster has never even seen.

Others have some other complaint with TiVo so they lash out at everything irrationally. Those posts usually say something like - 'great more time wasted on stupid new features when my box totally is unstable'- as if Tivo made a conscious decision to ignore the bug that poor person has and instead spend their man hours on something else- like it is a black and white either or situation.

I'll try it out and if it sucks I guess I'll just teach my harmony remote to send a pause and then clear every time I press the pause button and then it's not an issue. So far the execution on all this linking and searching leaves something to be desired in my humble opinion. There have been a few times I wanted to dig for something like that and more than once I wasn't pleased how cumbersome it was. Maybe this helps move the overall search and linking concept along the path to being useful. Time will tell…

[RoyK]

Originally Posted by MichaelK

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But honestly I think many just complain as a knee-jerk reaction without seeing the new things. Witness all the threads here with people complaining about new features that aren't released or that the individual poster has never even seen.

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Most if not all who are complaining here have already been seeing this "feature" on our S2 machines for months now. It s.cks!

[dwgsp]

Besides the "want more info?" bar, has anyone noticed any other changes with this new firmware?

[JohnBrowning]

"Clear" clears the banner and the progress bar. "Down" on the circular navigator clears the 'about' for the remainder of the program.

[bkdtv]

Originally Posted by JohnBrowning

clears the 'about' for the remainder of the program.

That's the key point. You can clear it for one recording, but it will reappear on the next one. You're stuck with it; there is no way disable it permanently if you don't like it.

As of the 11.0c update, cable and satellite DVRs now have a superior pause function.

[MichaelK]

Originally Posted by RoyK

Most if not all who are complaining here have already been seeing this "feature" on our S2 machines for months now. It s.cks!

in this particular thread- sure maybe all the people complaining do in fact really not like it.

doesn't change the fact that people just bitch for fun many times....

[moxie1617]

Really don't like this. This feature sucks.

[bkdtv]

Previous advertisements were never intrusive. You didn't have to navigate around them, they didn't require any additional remote clicks to avoid. They didn't affect the way you used the DVR at all.

This is different. This degrades the pause function. For the first time, extra navigation is required to avoid this menu (which may or may not have an ad). Yes, it's only once per recording, but that's once more per recording than other DVRs. There's no way to turn it off, permanently, if you don't like it.

Please call TiVo @ 877-367-8486 to tell them how much you like this feature.

[Shawn95GT]

I'll have to check my tivoHD to see if it got this. I came up to it froze at 'almost there, please wait' last night.

[moxie1617]

Originally Posted by bkdtv

Previous advertisements were never intrusive. You didn't have to navigate around them, they didn't require any additional remote clicks to avoid. They didn't affect the way you used the DVR at all.

This is different. This degrades the pause function. For the first time, extra navigation is required to avoid this menu (which may or may not have an ad). Yes, it's only once per recording, but that's once more per recording than other DVRs. There's no way to turn it off, permanently, if you don't like it.

Please call TiVo @ 877-367-8486 to tell them how much you like this feature.

Made the call. Hope others who don't like the feature do the same.

[spocko]

Anyone have a photo of this new "feature"?

I'll say straight up that I haven't seen it yet, but it sure sounds like a bad idea. Usually when I press pause, it's because I want to see the image on the screen. I don't want it covered up. If I want more info about a program, there's a button that coincidentally happens to be labeled "Info" which would suit that purpose nicely.

[Dennis Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by spocko

Anyone have a photo of this new "feature"?

I'll say straight up that I haven't seen it yet, but it sure sounds like a bad idea. Usually when I press pause, it's because I want to see the image on the screen. I don't want it covered up. If I want more info about a program, there's a button that coincidentally happens to be labeled "Info" which would suit that purpose nicely.

If it works like it does on the Series 2 units, just press clear and you can still see the image on the screen.

[petew]

Originally Posted by Dssturbo1

they also need to push an update to the Tivo HD and HD XL models for compatability with the new 1Gb My DVR expander. .

Wow an extra 12 minutes of HD But yes adding 1Tb in a Tivo supported manner would be nice.

[elwaylite]

My Tivo doesnt have it yet, my router crapped out yesterday am and I just fired it back up. Tried dialing in 5 times, hasnt seen the update. Guess I have to wait

[jeepguy_1980]

I'm wondering why my TiVo isn't getting any of these features.

I have yet to get an ad when I pause it and now I'm not getting this more information feature.

[Bierboy]

Originally Posted by moxie1617

Really don't like this. This feature sucks.

I think your user name explains a lot.

[wmcbrine]

Originally Posted by spocko

Usually when I press pause, it's because I want to see the image on the screen. I don't want it covered up.

Yep, that's exactly what's so annoying about it. Also that it comes up for all programs, even when there's actually no extra info to be had.

[elwaylite]

Is this a staggered rollout? Just wondering why I cant force.

[nrc]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Is this a staggered rollout? Just wondering why I cant force.

They almost always stagger roll-outs for the first few weeks.

[CuriousMark]

Originally Posted by Dennis Wilkinson

If it works like it does on the Series 2 units, just press clear and you can still see the image on the screen.

Or you can do a frame advance, which is an easier move on the remote. You would have had to do either a clear or frame advance to remove the progress bar to read text on the screen, so for those situations the navigation requirement is the same. We have had this "feature" on our S2s now for months and pretty much just gotten used to it. Still, I do find it mildly annoying at times.

[danjw1]

Call support and ask to get put on the priority list. You will usually get an update in about 48 hours if you do this.