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Old 12-26-2008, 01:16 PM   #5941
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Your problem of losing signals to both tuners on one of your boxes sounds like a problem with that particular TiVo box. When the tech replaced your S cards for "a couple M cards" was that 2 M cards in the one box or one in each of your 2 TiVos? You no doubt know that you only need 1 M card per TiVo.
The tech who came out was trying to use the one M card but when he called in for help the rep told him he needed a second m card for my TiVo since it has the cards in the back of it. The second TiVo still has the original 2 s cards in it.

Sounds like I should call TiVo for my loss of signal issue though.
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Old 12-26-2008, 05:08 PM   #5942
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Arrow Day 1 of CableCARD Install

Received TiVo HD XL on Wednesday.

Called Comcast on Wednesday to get M-Card. They refused to let me drive down and pick one up at store, so scheduled a tech for today between 8:30-11am. Not bad! M-Card raised bill by $2, though should be free they say when I return their crappy Scientific Atlanta HD DVR. This is a former Adelphia area.

Plugged in TiVo to Network, ran through setup, let it update, received software update, rebooted, etc. Things looked as expected with analog channels and guide info.

Tech came this morning. Very nice guy and after they called, arrived within 20 minutes at around 10:15am. So far so good!

He brought (2) two Scientific Atlanta M-Cards just in case. First M-Card inserted and he calls service desk to have them "hit it". Voice on phone reports a "P Pound" error message, assuming this is a P# error. Bummer, ejects first card, tries second card. Same P# error on their end. Talks to them a bit, they have no idea. He calls supervisor, talks to him for a couple, he says the cards are bad, come back and get some different cards.

While he's driving back to office, they seem to figure out a way to "test" the cards at the office. I actually think they are looking up numbers in a database or something because he picked up 8 cards to bring to try and while driving back they call and tell him that 4 of them won't work, and they were able to identify that 4 that "would work".

Tech plugs the card in, calls the service desk person, and they are all happy, everything "looks good". We check some channels and they look right. Previously (before CableCARD) I had the 1-99 channels, and a few of the HD channels on some of them as well. For example, HGTV HD which should be on 229 was on 29 and coming in clear. With "working" CableCARD channels that are working on the right place now.

Unfortunately several channels, everything 100-199, and several HD channels, and of course all of the premium channels (HBO, Cinemax, Starz)... are just BLACK SCREENs. Nothing there. Tech waits around for about 5 minutes, calls supervisor again, supervisor says it'll take a 20+ minutes and some TiVo's just have to be restarted. We wait another 15 minutes.

Like a sucker (since I've already heard him have next customer called twice to tell them he's late) I decided to trust that the channels will eventually come in and let him go. I go ahead and reboot the TiVo as well just in case. That was 6 hours ago, still none of the channels that should be there.

I call 1-800-COMCAST, and they're coming back tomorrow morning at 11am. Person on the phone says there is absolutely NOTHING that can be done because the tech has to come on site and re-program the CableCARD. I question this, asking if the billing system can't be updated or something and sent to the card, and they respond that no, a Tech definitely has to come out and reprogram the card, or bring a re-programed card. Oh well, we'll see tomorrow.

Just for reference here is some of then info gathered while I'm "locked" on HBO HD which just displays a black screen.

Network Interface-DAVIC: Status: Locked

CA Screen: Status: Not Staged (this doesn't look right)

CA Screen 3(Page 5 of the PDF) says the following:
Scientific Atlanta Cable Card(tm)
CA Screen - Active Program (1)
--------------------------
[LTSID-PrgNo-Status-ECM-CCI-EID]
4-2001-Ent-0-0-0 (looks like it the card is subscribed to channel)
---Elemetry Streams---
[ Stream Type-Pid number ]
0x05-0x0056 0x02-0x00C2 0x81-00C3

CA Screen Page-2 says:
LastErrorTime: Mon Jan 1, 1996 12:01:28 AM GMT (this a bad thing?)
SubExpiretime: Mon Jan 1, 1996 12:00:00 AM GMT

CP Info Screen says:
Auth Status: CP Auth Recived
LTSID:0x3 PN:0xf3e CCI:0x0
LTSID:0x4 PN:0xf3e CCI:0x0
LTSID:0x0 PN:0x0 CCI:0x0
LTSID:0x0 PN:0x0 CCI:0x0
LTSID:0x0 PN:0x0 CCI:0x0
LTSID:0x0 PN:0x0 CCI:0x0
MKS Period:600 seconds
Verify Key Status: OK

Diagnostics:
Bldr Ver:121
OS Ver:01.04.01
Build Time: Nov 11, 2006 11:20:34

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Old 12-26-2008, 06:16 PM   #5943
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He brought (2) two Scientific Atlanta M-Cards just in case. First M-Card inserted and he calls service desk to have them "hit it". Voice on phone reports a "P Pound" error message, assuming this is a P# error. Bummer, ejects first card, tries second card. Same P# error on their end. Talks to them a bit, they have no idea. He calls supervisor, talks to him for a couple, he says the cards are bad, come back and get some different cards.
Having the service desk say that the cablecard returned an error status is a bad sign. Given that TiVo's have no hardware to send cablecard status (or anything else) upstream to the cable system, any error status seen by the service desk has to be something internal to their network. With some systems, it needs to be specifically told that host is one-way(like the TiVo), so it knows not to expect anything back from them.
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:40 PM   #5944
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Having the service desk say that the cablecard returned an error status is a bad sign. Given that TiVo's have no hardware to send cablecard status (or anything else) upstream to the cable system, any error status seen by the service desk has to be something internal to their network. With some systems, it needs to be specifically told that host is one-way(like the TiVo), so it knows not to expect anything back from them.
The replacement card worked fine. Unfortunately I was listening to the very nice, but just an installer, interpret what the person on the telephone was saying... so who knows exactly what the lady on the other end said. But he was sure it was a "P#" error.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:18 PM   #5945
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Any thoughts on my situation here

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=414056

The card that works has,

Con:Yes
Val:V
Auth:MP

The card having problems has,

Con:Yes
Val:?
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Fixed

Finally got someone who knows what he's doing to help me.

Con:Yes
Val:V
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On both cards
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:32 PM   #5946
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We were using our new HD Tivo for about a week, it was working good but we were very limited with what we could receive and the channels were off numerically. We just got our M card from Comcast tonight , it did not look good for a while

The installer was nice enough but really did not seem to know what he was doing. He warned me several times they have trouble with M cards.

When he was finished calling in the numbers we tested the channels but had nothing but some message the on the screen stating the Tivo system was acquiring channel information. After several minutes, the installer gave me his cell phone number and took off because he had other appointments.

After about 45 minutes and still no channels, I decided to try again. First, I called Comcast and asked the lady to send an authorization hit and she said everything was already OK and I would need another tech visit. Actually, at first she argued and said I needed a tech visit to get an authorization hit but I argued that she can send it just as she would if I changed my premium channels. She was quiet for a long time then said she did all she could do and it still didn't work, she scheduled a service call.

I also called and got voice mail on the installers cell phone - so I removed the M card, rebooted the Tivo and started all over. Once the tivo was booted up and I could get some channels again without any card inserted, I installed the M card again and used the trouble shooting guides on www.tivo.com and saw that everything seemed to be activated and working but I had "no authorization" and NO channels, not even over the air.

I called Comcast again and got a different woman and after explaining she said she could send the authorization. She also wanted me to reboot again shortly after she sent the authorization "hit" because the Tivo still did nothing, no channels at all - but just as I was explaining it would take a long time to reboot the Tivo, the installer was back at the front door so I thanked her and told her the installer was there now.

Not long after the installer walked in the door the channels started to come back on line. Apparently the second woman did the right thing and it took a few minutes to show up. The installer first told me it is normal and to take so long on a Tivo because they need to reboot and download stuff before you can use them. He also told me the Tivos usually have problems and take a long time to get going. I disagreed and said I believed it was the second woman that fixed it by sending the authorization hit. He started talking about the cablecards not working in the tivos as well as the Comcast boxes. I listened a bit more and just said thanks as I walked him to the door.

I installed several access cards in Dtivos and never had a bit of problems, usually was working within a few seconds.
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:58 AM   #5947
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The tech they sent managed to get his hand on 2 working single streams... which he confirmed before coming out. As far as he knows, there were no more working single streams there, and they weren't ordering any new ones.
/Logik2000 glares at psuJC with death in his eyes...

But that is *great* info to have - 1) That there are cards out there that work (in fact, I commented to the guy who was here 12/24 about the idea of upgrading cards before bringing them, since it appeared to be unique to our situations/Tivos) 2) That a person only a few miles away, having an identical problem at exactly the same time has been fixed. Order shmorder. They have other service areas within the company with Scientific-Atlanta cards. They sure as hell are going to be ordering some cards whether they know it yet or not. Heh.

My running account of this debacle - http://logikland.com/comcass/
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Old 12-27-2008, 08:47 AM   #5948
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I absolutely dread having to call Comcast for any reason whatsoever.

This experience is no different from any other previous experience.

I called up my local Comcast office in southeastern CT to get myself a shiny new M card for my fantastic new HD TiVo. Naturally, I expected the worst given my past customer services calls to this delightfully competent and bargain priced service. *tries not to swallow own tongue, making death quick and pain free*

My local office had no idea what I was talking about. I tried to explain to them that yes, you can buy your own TiVo, and no, you have other options besides the Comcast DVR.

Since my local nitwit had just crawled out of the ocean for the first time, I decided to take my chances with the general 1800comcast number. The first representative tried to explain to me that no such device (a cablecard) existed in singe or multi stream form. So I told him that his services were no longer needed and I wished to speak to someone else. From there, I got my lovely grade school dropout tech on the other line, who also didn't know that you could purchase your own TiVo. That conversation ended with him saying "why don't you just use the Comcast DVR."

I'm calling back on Monday in hopes that I just received their "B" squad folks on the weekend.

Is it so hard to understand that all I want to do is use my new TiVo without renting a cable box from the greedy knuckle dragging troglodytes from comcast?

And people wonder why I pray daily (and would resort to sacrificing livestock, if needed) that AT&T runs fiber out my way to give me UVERSE.
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Old 12-27-2008, 10:59 AM   #5949
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/Logik2000 glares at psuJC with death in his eyes...

But that is *great* info to have - 1) That there are cards out there that work (in fact, I commented to the guy who was here 12/24 about the idea of upgrading cards before bringing them, since it appeared to be unique to our situations/Tivos) 2) That a person only a few miles away, having an identical problem at exactly the same time has been fixed. Order shmorder. They have other service areas within the company with Scientific-Atlanta cards. They sure as hell are going to be ordering some cards whether they know it yet or not. Heh.

My running account of this debacle - http://logikland.com/comcass/
Sorry, I emailed them using that link from earlier, and the next day heard back from someone at corporate. I explained the situation, and a couple days later heard back from a supervisor who sent the guy out. If you havn't already, and don't get anywhere, try sending a message to them. fixing the underlying problem obviously isn't a priority, you just have to hope they find a couple cards that work. http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Cus...tomercare.html
I'm anxiously awaiting verizon to bring FIOS to us. The fact there's no competition just makes comcast suck even more.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:26 AM   #5950
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And people wonder why I pray daily (and would resort to sacrificing livestock, if needed) that AT&T runs fiber out my way to give me UVERSE.
Trust me. If any other option was available, I'd move so fast it would cause a time warp. Worst customer service I've ever experienced. And that includes a pretty intense disability rights dust up with a particular department store a year or so ago. Comcast is working hard now, but it took getting to this point to make things happen. They may fix it, ultimately, and I'll give kudos for that, but it's been a pathetic mess up to this point. If they told me on that very first call, when I ordered, that Tivos could be this difficult, I would have just stuck with what I had. But again, the woman had no idea what cablecards were and then took some convincing that they do indeed pull in HD. A simple cheat sheet with pertitnent information like this should be extremely simple to distribute and stick in their script binders. (I worked in a call center for a few years long ago) Oy...
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:05 PM   #5951
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General Comcast Rant (Massachusetts)

Call me na´ve but I still can't get over what a lousy job Comcast does especially with regard to ill informed CSRs. And while my few chats with them have been frustrating they pale in comparison to some of the threads I read here. Most of the people hanging out on this forum know more than the CSRs and we don't do it for a living!

After the bogus information I got today from a "senior rep" I was motivated to look at my March 2008 issue of Condemner Reports where they rated "digital TV service." Of the 12 Service Providers Comcast came in 10th - only Charter & Mediacom were worse. And under the 'Support' category only Charter was worse. Verion FiOS got top grades in all categories.

Granted, Consumer Reports can be a nit picking bunch of old ladies (can we still say 'old ladies'?) but in this case I think they got it right.

My town is wired for FiOS but the cable component has not yet been approved. I can't imagine anyone (except the terminally lazy) not switching.

*** BULLETIN ***

Just as I'm finishing up this posting my wife walked in with the mail which included the Comcast bill! Gee, it only went up $4 this month.

Hey, also in the mail was the latest CR (Feb 2009) which rated TV Service again. Comcast is now 14th out of 16 with bad Support. Verizion FiOS is still #1 but their Support ratings have dropped also - still better than Comcast however.

Bob

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Old 12-27-2008, 09:51 PM   #5952
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SF Bay area- SPEEDHD

About a week ago, my Tivo let me know that SPEED channel in HD had been added to my Comcast lineup at channel 731. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked since then. Looking at the conditional access cablecard screen. I see "Auth: NOT_SUBSCRIBED". This strikes me as odd since I can get the SPEED in SD.

So I call in to Comcast support, and get a very nice old lady. She tried her darndest to help, but could find nothing in her system saying that the SF Bay Area had SPEED in HD; especially on channel 731. At that point I wrote it off as a scheduling misunderstanding between Comcast and Tivo, and that Comcast would eventually somday be adding the channel.

The odd thing is, I was over at my cousin's house a couple of days ago, and she has the Motorola HD STB from Comcast. It also claimed SPEED HD was on 731; but also just displayed some sort of "Channel unavailable" message when I tried to watch.

Anyone know whats going on? Think I should play CSR roulette with Comcast a few more times?
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:14 AM   #5953
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About a week ago, my Tivo let me know that SPEED channel in HD had been added to my Comcast lineup at channel 731.
I hope SpeedHD turns up for real, I've been waiting for that. No peeps about it down here in the South Bay.
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:11 AM   #5954
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Just as I'm finishing up this posting my wife walked in with the mail which included the Comcast bill! Gee, it only went up $4 this month.
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You're LUCKY - I have 6 Comcast CableCards and this month
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:58 AM   #5955
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One of the main reasons I got a TiVo was because I wanted to get rid of the cable box I rent from Comcast. I also wanted a DVR, naturally. DVR with comcast runs about 16 bucks a month where I live. That is absolutely obscene. I'm not giving that cancerous corporation one more dime.

If I can't get cablecards to work from Comcast, the TiVo is being returned. Every time I call comcast, something gets $%#(@ed up worse than it was before.

If I didn't have to demolish my neighbor across the street's house, and then cut down every tree in both yards, I'd have a friggen dish by now. Comcast is just an embarrassment.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:15 AM   #5956
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If I can't get cablecards to work from Comcast, the TiVo is being returned. Every time I call comcast, something gets $%#(@ed up worse than it was before.
TRUST ME CableCards from Comcast in a TiVo work GREAT.

The only problem is getting Comcast to PROVISION them Correctly.

That process can make you feel like you died and went to HELL.
Some Comcast Areas are BETTER than others.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:21 AM   #5957
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Some Comcast Areas are BETTER than others.
Given past service quality, I'm not very optimistic about Comcast in my area. My area has only been Comcast for about 2 years now. It used to be Adelphia. From what I read about Adelphia migrations, processes such as these tend to be eternally frustrating. This also could be a result of years of built up ire and frustration with Comcast as a whole. I was kind of hoping with all the economic downturn, that Comcast would be broken up and sold off into parts. That way I'd have at least an outside shot at decent cable service.

I don't particularly want to hook the TIVO up to piggyback off of the existing cable box. That kind of defeats the purpose, at least in my opinion. If I'm being naive about this, please let me know.

Alas, tomorrow is another day, and that means another call into my local Comcast branch to see if I can get the cablecards. I'm hoping that I just received bad advice from a few representatives on Saturday.
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[quote=seanmcsean;6948444]Given past service quality, I'm not very optimistic about Comcast in my area. My area has only been Comcast for about 2 years now. It used to be Adelphia.

I agree 100% - Previous Adelphia Customers who are now Comcast
are usually the worse Customer Service Areas.

We wish you GOOD LUCK with your Process.

Part of the difficulty is Adelphia Systems were so different from Comcast
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:37 AM   #5959
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I'm hoping I luck out tomorrow. I've got the TiVo wireless adapter on the way, and it should arrive tomorrow. I'm going to hook everything up and get it ready for a cablecard installation.

I'm glad that TiVo has a 30 day policy on new activations. This sucker is going to go right back to Amazon.com if Comcast can't get its act together. I've wanted a DVR for years, but given my past experiences with Comcast, there is absolutely no way that I'm going to be in a customer service holding pattern for malfunctioning equipment. I've been seconds away from pulling the plug completely on cable service as a result of my dealings with them.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:42 AM   #5960
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I'm hoping I luck out tomorrow. I've got the TiVo wireless adapter on the way, and it should arrive tomorrow. I'm going to hook everything up and get it ready for a cablecard installation.
It is EXTREMELY Important to get the TiVo Working a long time before
the CableCard and Tech show up. DO NOT WAIT - get it working now.

The one drawback to TiVo is it is NOT READY the first time you power
it up. I have my TiVo's working a Week before any CableCard shows
up. Then the Install is 15 Minutes and all done. NO PAIN at all.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:47 AM   #5961
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Yeah, I'm waiting on the wireless adapter to show up before I rip apart my entertainment center. I don't have a home phone line, so that piece is crucial!

Amazon Prime will be delivering that to me tomorrow I love amazon prime!
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Amazon Prime will be delivering that to me tomorrow I love amazon prime!
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Old 12-28-2008, 04:30 PM   #5963
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About a week ago, my Tivo let me know that SPEED channel in HD had been added to my Comcast lineup at channel 731. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked since then. Looking at the conditional access cablecard screen. I see "Auth: NOT_SUBSCRIBED". This strikes me as odd since I can get the SPEED in SD.

So I call in to Comcast support, and get a very nice old lady. She tried her darndest to help, but could find nothing in her system saying that the SF Bay Area had SPEED in HD; especially on channel 731. At that point I wrote it off as a scheduling misunderstanding between Comcast and Tivo, and that Comcast would eventually somday be adding the channel.

The odd thing is, I was over at my cousin's house a couple of days ago, and she has the Motorola HD STB from Comcast. It also claimed SPEED HD was on 731; but also just displayed some sort of "Channel unavailable" message when I tried to watch.

Anyone know whats going on? Think I should play CSR roulette with Comcast a few more times?
I have the same thing going on. I get Speed Channel in SD on channel 408 but the HD channel 731 is black. I hope it gets sorted out before race season starts.
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Given past service quality, I'm not very optimistic about Comcast in my area. My area has only been Comcast for about 2 years now. It used to be Adelphia.

I agree 100% - Previous Adelphia Customers who are now Comcast
are usually the worse Customer Service Areas.


Part of the difficulty is Adelphia Systems were so different from Comcast
the transition is extremely difficult to get the two old systems to work
together.
Tell me about it! Comcast has gone through several iterations of slowly getting the billing to be the same and every time they manage to mess up my bill which in turns messes with my cableCARD activation. My last bill went from $130 to $180 with no change in service as they eliminated the final vestiges of Adelphia's old SilverPAK bundles but somehow managed to not remove the $49.99 base cable charge while adding the new $78.95 digital preferred with 1 pay charge (remaining costs are for Internet service). I called billing and they fixed it but in doing so they managed to disable most of the digital channels and HBO so I had to call tech support who fixed that! I can't wait to see what the bill looks like next month.

I don't have a problem with Comcast's cable or Internet service in my area but we are definitely still going through integration hell and I'll be glad when it's finally over.

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Old 12-28-2008, 11:24 PM   #5965
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Hi guys, just got a new ("pre-loved") TiVo HD for Christmas from the parents and finally got it home tonight to get a CableCARD in it. I had already completed the guided setup and stuff at my parents' house in SoCal, so I thought all I had to do was slam the CableCARD in it, call to have Comcast pair it and I'd be good to go. I had my roommate pick up an M-Card from the San Jose Comcast office that's right down the street from our place (they handed it over to her no questions asked, which I thought was a little weird, but I got my card so it's all good).

Anyway, I got home, plugged it in and it installed the Fall 2008 software update. After that finished, I slid in the CableCARD and embarked on Call #1 to Comcast. Read the Host and Data info to the CSR, she hits the card, TiVo starts downloading the channel map and she tells me I'm good to go. I get off the phone with her before I've tested all of my channels, which was my first mistake of the night. Lo and behold, I'm only getting the limited basic and broadcast HD channels--none of the other channels that I previously got with my Comcast HD box.

I wait a few minutes, then call Comcast again. CSR #2 confirm the CableCARD info, and send a few hits to the box. No dice. He schedules a tech visit, first appointment when Comcast and I are mutually available isn't until Wednesday. No way I'm sitting here with a TiVo HD that's practically useless to me until Wednesday.

So I gave up for a while, and then decided to follow the process for viewing an encrypted channel's Conditional Access screen. It was showing "Auth: MP," which according to the TiVo's support guide is another CableCARD error. Dug around this site a bit, and apparently the first CSR never sent an initialization hit to the CableCARD. Time to pick up the phone and dial 1-800-COMCAST again.

This time, I think I've gotten a decent CSR since he seems to have dealt with CableCARDs and TiVos before. I told him that I think I need an initialization hit, and he sends that command after again verifying the CableCARD serial number (first time we verified that one) and the Host/Data info. After he sent the initialization hit, BAM. All the channels came in. Then he started to tell me he's helped a lot of customers with TiVos, and how he thinks the TiVo software is "far superior" than the Comcast boxes. No duh...but at least some people within Comcast are competent enough to realize their product is mostly crap.

Bottom line: look for that "Auth: MP" message on the Conditional Access screen for an encrypted channel. If it's there, call Comcast and ask for that initialization hit. It works.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:55 PM   #5966
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Well... now Comcast is charging my area 6.95 per cable card. That puts it at a buck less than a comcast dvr itself. Anyone else find this ridiculous?
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:41 AM   #5967
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Well... now Comcast is charging my area 6.95 per cable card. That puts it at a buck less than a comcast dvr itself. Anyone else find this ridiculous?
Makes PERFECT Sense to me.

Here is the LOGIC.

They want you on their DVR instead of an independent DVR.

WHY?

Because with their DVR you can order VOD.

They makes LOTS of EXTRA money from that service which they
lose from non-Comcast DVR's. Therefore lets try to make the extra
bucks by continually jacking up the CableCard Prices until we get
them to switch.

It's the OLDEST marketing trick in the BOOK. "CONTROL THE CUSTOMER"
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:59 AM   #5968
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Well... now Comcast is charging my area 6.95 per cable card. That puts it at a buck less than a comcast dvr itself. Anyone else find this ridiculous?
That does sound outrageous. Does your rate card have a listing for CableCARD (dual CableCARD for non-Comcast HD PVRs requiring two cards) if you have a Series 3? And does this mean that you aren't getting the first one free with the primary outlet (our rate card show CableCARD - primary outlet rental charge as No Charge)?

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Old 12-29-2008, 10:22 AM   #5969
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Well... now Comcast is charging my area 6.95 per cable card. That puts it at a buck less than a comcast dvr itself. Anyone else find this ridiculous?
That sounds like the extra digital outlet charge, not the card charge itself.
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:49 AM   #5970
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That sounds like the extra digital outlet charge, not the card charge itself.
The CARD is considered the Extra Digital Outlet since without it
there is no digital channels that can be received [aka decoded]!

That is how Comcast lists the CARD Charge.
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