TiVo Desktop 2.6.2 is out

LoREvanescence · 07-17-2008, 07:22 AM

As of this morning, TiVo Desktop 2.6.2 is available for download at http://www.tivo.com/desktop.

I don't know what's new yet or if their if there are any changes. I'm downloading it now and will let you know if I find anything new

jkalnin · 07-17-2008, 09:00 AM

There is no sign of any changes or new features. I search everywhere with no luck. TivoPony announced it last time, so let's see if he stops by and gives us a heads up on what's new.

jkalnin · 07-17-2008, 09:04 AM

Found it:

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Tivo Desktop 2.6.2

This version has the following imporvements in Tivo Desktop:

*Improved Reliability of transfers of large recordings to the DVR.
*Reduced memory usage when transferring recordings from the DVR.

For Plus:
*Improved communications with Tivo when linking to Tivo account and handling web video content.
*Improved handling of web video content when pausing or shutting down Tivo server.

LoREvanescence · 07-17-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jkalnin

Found it:

Yeah, after playing around with it and reading the read me. It looks strictly to be a maintenance update. No new features.

I was hoping it would let us S3/THD users transfer mpeg-4 videos over to the tivo box now that mpeg-4 has apparently been enabled in 9.4. However, it still converts to mpeg-2.

I would love to put all my video transfers to tivo as mpeg-4 to reduce on file size. For example, a music video is 30 MB for a decent quality mpeg-4, but is 200 MB after transferred to tivo and converted to mpeg-2

rainwater · 07-17-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LoREvanescence

Yeah, after playing around with it and reading the read me. It looks strictly to be a maintenance update. No new features.

If it actually fixes the bug on Vista machines that prevents using TTG for large files, it is well worth a release though. This bug has existed ever since Vista was released.

LoREvanescence · 07-17-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rainwater

If it actually fixes the bug on Vista machines that prevents using TTG for large files, it is well worth a release though. This bug has existed ever since Vista was released.

I have windows vista ultimate x64 on my notebook, and have never experienced this bug you mentioned. It has always worked for me and still does so I can't confirm this release either fixes that issue or not.

TivoZorro · 07-17-2008, 10:31 AM

Under know issues it says that when it is open and transfering a recording over time it will use up more memory. One of the suggestions is to Exit the Tivo Desktop Application while transfering a recording from a DVR. If I close Tivo Desktop, won't that stop the transfer? Am a bit confused.

LoREvanescence · 07-17-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TivoZorro

Under know issues it says that when it is open and transfering a recording over time it will use up more memory. One of the suggestions is to Exit the Tivo Desktop Application while transfering a recording from a DVR. If I close Tivo Desktop, won't that stop the transfer? Am a bit confused.

It shouldn't. The TiVo Server should still be running, you should still see the little TiVo Guy on your system tray after exiting the Desktop Application. It will just transfer quietly in the background. And without having the Desktop Application open, it makes a lot of since that it will save on memory.

TivoZorro · 07-17-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LoREvanescence

It shouldn't. The TiVo Server should still be running, you should still see the little TiVo Guy on your system tray after exiting the Desktop Application. It will just transfer quietly in the background. And without having the Desktop Application open, it makes a lot of since that it will save on memory.

Thanks. I always left it open because I thought it had to be open. Learn something new every day. How do you know when the transfer is finished? Do you right click on the Tivo Guy in the system tray?

MickeS · 07-17-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jkalnin

Found it:
*Improved Reliability of transfers of large recordings to the DVR.

Maybe I can actually use it now then... will give it a shot.

jlb · 07-17-2008, 10:50 AM

Well, another way would be to go to the folder on your computer where you direct your transfers. Hit refresh a couple of times and see if the file size continues to grow.

jlb · 07-17-2008, 10:53 AM

Even though I have a new quad core computer with 4gb of ram I had resisted the temptation to load my TD+ back. My wife does a lot of ebay and I was worried that there could still be a performance impact. However, with the newest out there, I think I may give it a go. It sounds like with my current capabilities and with the newest version, it should work just fine. And I can probably load and not have to stop some of the services when not needed.

This will be critical for me if we don't upgrade/expand before the fall season starts......

Anyone that has loaded the new seen any memory leakage (i.e., growing mem usage when a transfer has already completed)?

morac · 07-17-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LoREvanescence

It shouldn't. The TiVo Server should still be running, you should still see the little TiVo Guy on your system tray after exiting the Desktop Application. It will just transfer quietly in the background. And without having the Desktop Application open, it makes a lot of since that it will save on memory.

Technically the TivoServer.exe process does not need to be running to transfer programs from the TiVo. The only process that needs to be running is TiVoTransfer.exe. TiVoServer only needs to be running to transfer to the TiVo. TiVo Desktop only needs to be run to change settings and initiates transfers from the TiVo.

TiVoNotify.exe is the app that displays the tray icon. Technically it doesn't need to run, but you won't get any notifications if you kill it.

rainwater · 07-17-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LoREvanescence

I have windows vista ultimate x64 on my notebook, and have never experienced this bug you mentioned. It has always worked for me and still does so I can't confirm this release either fixes that issue or not.

Most people are running the 32 bit version. Also, I am only referring to using GoBack with non .tivo files. If the files were larger than 1gb or so, they would always fail.

LoREvanescence · 07-17-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rainwater

Most people are running the 32 bit version. Also, I am only referring to using GoBack with non .tivo files. If the files were larger than 1gb or so, they would always fail.

hmm, yeah most people don't have it yet. But now its coming on new laptops from best buy.

And I have been able to transfer none .tivo files that are around 2.0 GB before and that is with the TiVoToComeBack transfer. Might be TiVo Desktop works differently on the x64 version.

angel35 · 07-17-2008, 11:59 AM

How do you go to priority list ???

rainwater · 07-17-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by angel35

How do you go to priority list ???

Huh? You just download it with the link above.

jlb · 07-17-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by morac

Technically the TivoServer.exe process does not need to be running to transfer programs from the TiVo. The only process that needs to be running is TiVoTransfer.exe. TiVoServer only needs to be running to transfer to the TiVo. TiVo Desktop only needs to be run to change settings and initiates transfers from the TiVo.

TiVoNotify.exe is the app that displays the tray icon. Technically it doesn't need to run, but you won't get any notifications if you kill it.

I am trying to remember.....which of the processes were the one(s) that were the offending memory leakage programs? Was it TiVo Transfer?

Anyways, I guess to my point above, I guess it is time to reload onto my new computer. Clearly, I have the horsepower. We'll see.

jlb · 07-17-2008, 01:15 PM

Ok......remind me how I download if I already have a plus key......Do I download the "free" and it recognizes that I have a key and automatically upgrades?

rainwater · 07-17-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jlb

Ok......remind me how I download if I already have a plus key......Do I download the "free" and it recognizes that I have a key and automatically upgrades?

Yes, it always keeps the key in the registry so it should upgrade fine. If it doesn't, if you go to enter your key after you upgrade, it will find it automatically and switch to the plus version.

windracer · 07-17-2008, 01:25 PM

Maybe I'll finally be able to link TD to my account on Vista now!

jlb · 07-17-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rainwater

Yes, it always keeps the key in the registry so it should upgrade fine. If it doesn't, if you go to enter your key after you upgrade, it will find it automatically and switch to the plus version.

Thanks!

morac · 07-17-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jlb

I am trying to remember.....which of the processes were the one(s) that were the offending memory leakage programs? Was it TiVo Transfer?.

The two processes I 've heard that have leaks are:
TiVoServer.exe - when serving files to TiVo
TiVoTransfer.exe - when transferring shows from TiVo (I've seen this leak myself).

The release notes seem to imply they've fixed (or reduced) the leak in TiVoTransfer.exe in 2.6.2. We'll see.

yunlin12 · 07-17-2008, 03:44 PM

Looking forward to try it out. I have problem transferring HD shows back from the PC to the Tivo. Also HD Photos hasn't worked right since moving to java 6. Hope that got fixed as well.

yunlin12 · 07-17-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rainwater

Most people are running the 32 bit version. Also, I am only referring to using GoBack with non .tivo files. If the files were larger than 1gb or so, they would always fail.

I have a Vista Home Premium 32 bit machine, and I've used it to transfer LotR moveis recorded from TNTHD, edited and saved as MPEG2 using VideoReDo, back to Tivo S3, using TivoDesktop 2.6.1, and all 3 movies worked. After editing out the commercials they are still well over 20GB in size each. I've also done the same with Star Wars trilogy from HBOHD. I also edited out the extra stuff at the beginning and end, and saved as MPEG2 before I TTGB them to the S3.

What I have problem with is in most of the Firefly episodes that I saved from UHD. All but one failed. Some fail in the middle of a segment (not close to the commercial edit cut points). The transfer would always fail at the same location. that looks to be a software issue, and not a network issue. I hope this is fixed as well. For now I can only watch them through Tiversity media server + PS3.

steve614 · 07-17-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TivoZorro

Thanks. I always left it open because I thought it had to be open. Learn something new every day. How do you know when the transfer is finished? Do you right click on the Tivo Guy in the system tray?

I thought you had to leave TD open as well, until I unintentionally closed it once.
I just glance at my router's lights to watch for when transfers are done.

yunlin12 · 07-18-2008, 12:36 PM

Still no joy here with 2.6.2. Photos 2.0 still not running with java 6. And my firefly episodes still won't transfer back to my S3 or HD. Wonder if I need to wait for 9.4 on the Tivo's too.

jkalnin · 07-18-2008, 02:03 PM

I noticed my Photos 2.0 wasn't working last night. Then I looked at some photos using the old version and it occurred to me that they actually look better on my HDTV using the old app vs Photos 2.0 - weird.

bacevedo · 07-18-2008, 03:53 PM

Does the music streaming work ok for everyone?

When I play music (mostly AAC files - .m4a), it works fine until I skip a track. With all versions of Tivo Desktop (including this one) the music will not move to the next song on its own. After a couple of skip tracks, the music hangs up completely, even on mp3 files. Just wondering if others have this issue, because I haven't seen it reported anywhere else.

I have a new thread on it here.

Thanks,
Bryan

LoREvanescence · 07-18-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bacevedo

Does the music streaming work ok for everyone?

When I play music (mostly AAC files - .m4a), it works fine until I skip a track. With all versions of Tivo Desktop (including this one) the music will not move to the next song on its own. After a couple of skip tracks, the music hangs up completely, even on mp3 files. Just wondering if others have this issue, because I haven't seen it reported anywhere else.

I have a new thread on it here.

Thanks,
Bryan

I don't think tivo desktop supports AAC/ .m4a yet. When ever I have a folder of those files it tells me there is nothing in the folder that is playable.

I believe it only supports .mp3 for now. With that being said, I have had no problems streaming any mp3's, no skips, it doesn't stop. I have played a few full cd's since upgrading to 2.6.2