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04-09-2008, 04:48 PM
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TiVo Forum Special Member
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TiVo Desktop 2.6.1 - Read This
Hey all,
There is a new version of TiVo Desktop available today for download (version 2.6.1).
It has improved recovery from interrupted transfers between the PC and DVR, but it also provides an updated Windows Certificate for TiVo Desktop. The certificate used in prior versions of TiVo Desktop is about to expire, so you'll want to get 2.6.1. Without this certificate update it will not be possible to manually transfer programs from your PC to your TiVo DVR (all other Desktop functionality should continue to work fine however).
You can download TiVo Desktop 2.6.1 here.
For customers who are using an older operating system (e.g. Windows 2000) and cannot update to Desktop 2.6.1, there is a separate certificate updater available. You'll find the link for this updater on this page. It's listed under the first 'step' on the page.
Update now so you don't lose the ability to transfer shows from your PC to your TiVo DVR. Thanks!
Cheers,
Pony
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04-09-2008, 06:00 PM
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Does this version fix the inability of Vista users to transfer non .tivo files to TiVos?
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04-09-2008, 06:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainwater
Does this version fix the inability of Vista users to transfer non .tivo files to TiVos?
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Ha! You just don't give up, do you! 
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04-09-2008, 06:22 PM
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04-09-2008, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueTurbo
Ha! You just don't give up, do you! 
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Well, it is sort of the point of TiVo Desktop Plus.
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04-09-2008, 06:41 PM
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I'm hoping that this is what
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It has improved recovery from interrupted transfers between the PC and DVR
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is about.
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04-09-2008, 06:44 PM
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Kisses
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainwater
Does this version fix the inability of Vista users to transfer non .tivo files to TiVos?
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I use Vista and have pushed non .tivo files to my THD.
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04-09-2008, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainwater
Well, it is sort of the point of TiVo Desktop Plus.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For the benefit of all you other normal TD+ 2.6.1 on Vista users out there. it works perfectly fine if you're not in the habit of transferring 1GB+ files from Vista to your TiVo.
I've had absolutely no issues using TD+ on Vista. I regularly transfer '.mp4', '.wmv', etc., videos up to several hundred MB in size, to my TiVoHD. Every transfer completes flawlessly. I can't confirm the problems 'rainwater' is having because I don't have any videos over 1GB in size to play with. 
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04-09-2008, 06:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueTurbo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For the benefit of all you other normal TD+ 2.6.1 on Vista users out there. it works perfectly fine if you're not in the habit of transferring 1GB+ files from Vista to your TiVo.
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Yes, it works just great for videos under 20 minutes or so. Considering I have very little of these it is quite useless for me. One would think that a paid feature like this would get some attention.
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04-09-2008, 06:55 PM
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Kisses
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainwater
Yes, it works just great for videos under 20 minutes or so. Considering I have very little of these it is quite useless for me. One would think that a paid feature like this would get some attention.
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again, huh? The files I used were much longer then 20 minutes.
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04-09-2008, 07:03 PM
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I'm kind of in the middle. I can get files in the range of 300MB-500MB to transfer, but they rarely transfer the full file the 1st time...and usually I have to try 4 or 5 times before it will work on Vista.
Using something like VisualHub on the Mac to transcode the videos and then using regular TD to transfer works fine.
Anyway, I'm hopeful that this has been fixed, because I bought TD plus to make transfers quicker and easier, and so far it has just made them more effort.
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04-09-2008, 09:04 PM
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Not sure why you would want to transfer 1GB+ files to your TiVo when there are other options out there that can easily stream movies and such without having to transfer anything.
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04-09-2008, 11:03 PM
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Thanks for the heads up Pony.
Now could someone explain to me why I need to first manually uninstall the existing TiVODesktop before running the update? Why can't it just take care of the uninstall as part of the update the way other software products do it?
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04-09-2008, 11:16 PM
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What if we have Desktop Plus? How do we make sure we keep PLUS?
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04-09-2008, 11:21 PM
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thanks for the announcement!
Quote:
Originally Posted by TiVoPony
Hey all,
There is a new version of TiVo Desktop available today for download (version 2.6.1).
It has improved recovery from interrupted transfers between the PC and DVR, but it also provides an updated Windows Certificate for TiVo Desktop. The certificate used in prior versions of TiVo Desktop is about to expire, so you'll want to get 2.6.1. Without this certificate update it will not be possible to manually transfer programs from your PC to your TiVo DVR (all other Desktop functionality should continue to work fine however).
You can download TiVo Desktop 2.6.1 here.
For customers who are using an older operating system (e.g. Windows 2000) and cannot update to Desktop 2.6.1, there is a separate certificate updater available. You'll find the link for this updater on this page. It's listed under the first 'step' on the page.
Update now so you don't lose the ability to transfer shows from your PC to your TiVo DVR. Thanks!
Cheers,
Pony
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thanks for the announcement!
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04-10-2008, 12:21 AM
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I've had no problems at all transferring multi GB video files from my Vista PC to any TiVo I've had.
I just now had to reinstall Tivo desktop and was surprised to see the .1 added to the 2.6. I came here to see how recently this new version became available.
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04-10-2008, 12:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scandia101
I've had no problems at all transferring multi GB video files from my Vista PC to any TiVo I've had.
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And these files are not .tivo files?
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04-10-2008, 02:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainwater
And these files are not .tivo files?
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.avi and .mpeg
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04-10-2008, 02:48 AM
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Well, I began using Tivo Desktop 2.5 and 2.6 and none of them have worked for me except on about 20 percent of my recordings. This thread got my hopes up, so I downloaded 2.6.1 and just tried to transfer a recording to my PC. That recording has never transferred successfully, always stopping at about 69 percent.
The same thing just happened with 2.6.1.
I am using a series 3 Tivo and I am still on software version 9.2a.
Will this ever work correctly? My patience is wearing thin. Has anyone else been able to get recordings that previously would not transfer to transfer with 2.6.1?
I realize I only tried one program but this in not encouraging.
Last edited by PT30 : 04-10-2008 at 02:58 AM.
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04-10-2008, 05:09 AM
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I currently have Desktop Plus on 2.5.1. Can someone please tell me how I can get Desktop Plus without an additional payment if I upgrade to 2.6.1?
Thanks!
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04-10-2008, 06:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by berfy
I currently have Desktop Plus on 2.5.1. Can someone please tell me how I can get Desktop Plus without an additional payment if I upgrade to 2.6.1?
Thanks!
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When you purchased it did they give you a registration code to plug into the software? I would think that would work on the new software. I am just guessing since I did not purchase it.
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04-10-2008, 06:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cmshep222
What if we have Desktop Plus? How do we make sure we keep PLUS?
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Uninstalling TiVo Desktop shouldn't get rid of your Plus license key. I think that is stored in the registry. I just uninstalled and upgraded to 2.6.1 from 2.5 last night and never had to enter in a key again.
Of course it is probably always a good idea to have the key handy in case...but if things go well you won't need it.
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04-10-2008, 07:13 AM
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Crazy TiVo Fan
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I too am having problems transferring large files from Vista to my TiVo S3 & TiVoHD. It's annoying. Does anyone have a copy of desktop 2.5?
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04-10-2008, 10:28 AM
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No time to hack
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.mkv file support for Desktop Plus?
Pony,
Can we get .mkv file support for Desktop Plus? This format is becoming more and more popular.
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04-10-2008, 03:20 PM
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TiVo CSE & G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by etz
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Now could someone explain to me why I need to first manually uninstall the existing TiVODesktop before running the update? Why can't it just take care of the uninstall as part of the update the way other software products do it?
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When we launched 2.5, we had a great deal of confusing reports of installation issues, many of which where actually uninstall issues of the prior version on Vista.
TiVo Desktop 2.4 and earlier do not uninstall cleanly on Vista. We've got a whole article about how use the TiVo Desktop Cleaner utility to uninstall TiVo Desktop 2.4..
We changed to having you uninstall the prior version manual in 2.5.1 so that customers, and in turn support, would clearly understand if the issue was related to installation or uninstallation.
Since migration to Vista is still in full swing, we kept this separation in TiVo Desktop 2.6 and 2.6.1. This may be a pain, but it really helps on the occasions when there is a problem during either the uninstall or the install.
Going forward, we anticipate going back to the desired behavior of doing it all at once.
Hope that helps.
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04-10-2008, 06:41 PM
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Can I use Cert update to keep TD 2.3?
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04-10-2008, 08:30 PM
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TiVo CSE & G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDTiVo
Can I use Cert update to keep TD 2.3?
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Yes.
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04-11-2008, 12:09 AM
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thanks for the explanation of the uninstall/reinstall behavior.
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04-11-2008, 12:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueTurbo
Ha! You just don't give up, do you! 
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man you really exemplify the phrase FAN BOI
jesus man, you don't own the company.
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04-11-2008, 12:29 AM
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500m?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrueTurbo
For the benefit of all you other normal TD+ 2.6.1 on Vista users out there. it works perfectly fine if you're not in the habit of transferring 1GB+ files from Vista to your TiVo.
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Well, I certainly don't use Vista (or even XP unless I have to), but I'm having a hard time figuring out why I would want to transfer any video files smaller than 1GB to my TiVos. Most of my videos are in the 10GB - 30GB range. With the exception of one very brief slideshow I authored myself, I don't have any videos smaller than 1GB. Even the old videos transferred from my ancient Series I TiVo usually run from 32 - 5G.
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