New Update

harveyvicky2006 · 03-19-2008, 06:11 PM

I recevied a update on my series 2 tivo today, 9.3 software, main page now has find programs movie down loads and video casts This was on my 540 series the 240 series hasn't received it yet.

garypratt · 03-19-2008, 06:53 PM

I also received this update today. Unfortunately it has stopped the TiVo that received the update from receiving transfers from my other TiVo (which is still using the old version).

I posted a question about this in the TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo forum with the title "Transfers not working".

I'm wondering whether this new update is the cause of the problem....

rainwater · 03-19-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by garypratt

I also received this update today. Unfortunately it has stopped the TiVo that received the update from receiving transfers from my other TiVo (which is still using the old version).

I posted a question about this in the TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo forum with the title "Transfers not working".

I'm wondering whether this new update is the cause of the problem....

You may want to try forcing a connection from the box that was updated.

garypratt · 03-20-2008, 01:26 AM

Thanks for the suggestion!

I had already tried forcing a connection on the newly upgraded TiVo. It connected successfully, but that didn't resolve the issue.

Per a suggestion in the other thread, I forced a restart of the TiVo which received the new upgrade and that did the trick. I should have done that before I posted my question, since it usually takes care of most problems.

pdhenry · 03-20-2008, 08:29 AM

A couple of things I noticed with 9.3 (just showed up on one of my boxes overnight):

* Is a remote TiVo NPL slightly faster to appear?
* The TiVo recorded a suggestion and then stayed on that channel when it was done instead of reverting back to its previous channel, as has normally been the case. Since the Channel was Nickelodian I know that it was only there for the suggestion.

BTW, I'm having no trouble transferring from the 9.3 box to a 9.1 box. Are both of your TiVos at least at 9.1?

fishbate · 03-20-2008, 03:40 PM

Does 9.3 fix the letterbox bug?...that is, all wide screen programs are currently letterboxed, even when I set the Tivo to 16:9 aspect ratio. I've got upgrades blocked and don't want to upgrade to 9.3 if the bugs are not fixed. Thanks

Dan203 · 03-20-2008, 03:52 PM

I got it as well. My Toshiba DVD TiVo is considerably snappier then it's ever been. (that thing is normally dog slow, now it's not half bad) Beyond that I haven't done much testing. I'll try out the letterbox thing in a few minutes and let you know if it works.

Dan

steve614 · 03-20-2008, 05:18 PM

Doesn't Tivo usually announce an ''update priority" page before rolling out the update, or is this the limited beta roll-out stage?

windracer · 03-20-2008, 05:25 PM

Usually it's at http://www.tivo.com/priority, but right now that still redirects to the 9.1/9.2a completion page.

dwit · 03-20-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan203

I got it as well. My Toshiba DVD TiVo is considerably snappier then it's ever been. (that thing is normally dog slow, now it's not half bad) Beyond that I haven't done much testing. I'll try out the letterbox thing in a few minutes and let you know if it works.

Dan

After the 9.3 update, my SDH 400 is noticeably slower when selecting a show from the now playing list until the "program menu" screen shows.

Funny because if I press the play button from the NPL, the show plays immediately. It's just when I press select from the now playing list, it seems to take a few seconds before the program menu shows.

In fact, I just compared it to my non 9.3 updated 540x. It takes the 540x a second or less to select from npl. Took the Tosh shh400 about 5 sec. The Toshiba has a 400g drive. the 540x has a 300g drive. I'll see how the 540 acts after it receives 9.3.

For the times I've had them, I have never noticed the sdh400 to be slower than the 540x. In fact, imo, it's always been a little faster. Although, I do remember after an update a year or so ago, it was extremely sluggish to change channels, but that was corrected on a subsuquent update. Might have been 2 years ago though, as I don't remember having the 540 to compare it to at the time. I've been using the 540 a little over 2 years.

mrmike · 03-20-2008, 06:13 PM

Often after updates, the database is reindexing etc. That can make the box a little sluggish for a day or so, depending on what else it's doing in the foreground. YMMV.

classicsat · 03-20-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by steve614

Doesn't Tivo usually announce an ''update priority" page before rolling out the update, or is this the limited beta roll-out stage?

The priority page is a further stage in the software release process. It will be available in 2 weeks or so.

bkdtv · 03-20-2008, 06:33 PM

As suggested above, I would wait 2-3 days before assessing the performance of any new software version.

With many new software updates, the guide data must be reindexed, and that slows performance -- sometimes dramatically so -- for up to 72 hours.

h00ligan · 03-20-2008, 10:33 PM

hmm, i wonder when this will roll out to everyone.

TromboneKenny · 03-20-2008, 10:34 PM

TiVo better not be pushing updates during March Madness. That's not cool. That's on par with rollouts before the Superbowl or World Series.

If I miss something or the picture doesn't look good, I want to blame CBS, not TiVo! (I'll blame the Illini not being there on free throws.)

HPD · 03-21-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TromboneKenny

TiVo better not be pushing updates during March Madness. That's not cool. That's on par with rollouts before the Superbowl or World Series.

If I miss something or the picture doesn't look good, I want to blame CBS, not TiVo! (I'll blame the Illini not being there on free throws.)

I have had Tivo for almost nine years. There has never been an update that caused me to miss a show or have a bad picture. Your issues were not software related.

pdhenry · 03-21-2008, 08:57 AM

I noticed something new this morning. With 9.3 you can begin viewing Unbox content before it has completed downloading (there appears to be some sort of check that enough has been downloaded relative to your bandwidth to allow it to finish wihtout interruption). While the S3/HD platforms had this in 9.2, it's new on S2s.

And it appears that the suggestions channel bug I mentioned yesterday was a one-time issue.

TivoZorro · 03-21-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TromboneKenny

TiVo better not be pushing updates during March Madness. That's not cool. That's on par with rollouts before the Superbowl or World Series.

If I miss something or the picture doesn't look good, I want to blame CBS, not TiVo! (I'll blame the Illini not being there on free throws.)

Actually I'd prefer to get the update as soon as possible. The sooner I can get the MRV problem fixed (if they fixed it) the better. Of course, since I want it, none of my boxes have gotten it. I'll probably be last on the list. Going away on a job on Monday and won't be back till Friday so I kind of wanted to get it installed and started working before I left. But I don't want to miss a show either due to something in the software.

MickeS · 03-21-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pdhenry

I noticed something new this morning. With 9.3 you can begin viewing Unbox content before it has completed downloading (there appears to be some sort of check that enough has been downloaded relative to your bandwidth to allow it to finish wihtout interruption). While the S3/HD platforms had this in 9.2, it's new on S2s.

And it appears that the suggestions channel bug I mentioned yesterday was a one-time issue.

Do you know if widescreen videos transferred from the PC will now display correctly on a Series 2 connected to a widescreen TV? In 9.2, they display with black bars on top and bottom, even if the video is a 16:9 aspect ratio (which should fill the screen).
EDIT: oops, just saw that fishbate asked about that same thing a few posts up. Hopefully someone knows.

Dan203, did you try it out?

Dan203 · 03-21-2008, 01:53 PM

Looks like they went the opposite direction in this release. I just tried a 16:9 video and it played full screen regardless of the TV and display settings on the TiVo. I don't get why this is so hard for them to get right. If the TV is set to 16:9 play it full screen. If it's set to 4:3 then play it letterboxed or cropped as selected by the user. At least it's better then the original release which played a weird double image when trying to play 16:9 content and the only way to fix it was to change the MPEG header to trick it into thinking it was 4:3

Dan

MickeS · 03-21-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan203

Looks like they went the opposite direction in this release. I just tried a 16:9 video and it played full screen regardless of the TV and display settings on the TiVo. I don't get why this is so hard for them to get right. If the TV is set to 16:9 play it full screen. If it's set to 4:3 then play it letterboxed or cropped as selected by the user. At least it's better then the original release which played a weird double image when trying to play 16:9 content and the only way to fix it was to change the MPEG header to trick it into thinking it was 4:3

Dan

Well at least this way it works for me.

Thanks for testing it.

The funny thing is that it WAS working perfectly on my TiVo Series 2 before 9.1(?). On a 4:3 TV it displayed 16:9 videos in letterbox, on a 16:9 TV it displayed it fullscreen. I don't know how they managed to screw it up.

larkor · 03-22-2008, 03:19 PM

Has anybody run "repeat guided setup" to see if dtv converter boxes are supported?

BlackBetty · 03-22-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pdhenry

I noticed something new this morning. With 9.3 you can begin viewing Unbox content before it has completed downloading.

vasilemj · 03-23-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fishbate

I've got upgrades blocked and don't want to upgrade to 9.3 if the bugs are not fixed. Thanks

fishbate, what do you mean that you have the ability to block upgrades? How do you accomplish this?

Da Goon · 03-23-2008, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vasilemj

fishbate, what do you mean that you have the ability to block upgrades? How do you accomplish this?

You pull your drive, boot with a linux disk and use the "bootpage" utility to write a boot parameter (upgradesoftware=false) to your tivo drive. fishbate's box is most likely hacked.

This isn't really a good idea to do on a standalone box, since it won't stop your tivo from downloading the new software, and it will reboot every night at 2am in a vain attempt to install it. Also, you will eventually stop getting guide data if you're running an old software version, since tivo will be sending you encryption keys meant for the new software, which aren't necessarily compatible with the old.

timstack8969 · 03-23-2008, 12:44 PM

I still have 9.1 on Single Tuner series 2 TIVO.

sparklygurl2007 · 03-23-2008, 12:49 PM

My TiVo is still sitting at 7.2

BlackBetty · 03-24-2008, 04:28 PM

I'm surprised there isn't a priority list up by now.

petew · 03-24-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by timstack8969

I still have 9.1 on Single Tuner series 2 TIVO.

9.1 is the current release for all but the S3 and TivoHD

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Originally Posted by sparklygurl2007

My TiVo is still sitting at 7.2

Is that deliberate? Unless updates are disabled you should be upgraded to 9.1 by now.

richsadams · 03-24-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBetty

I'm surprised there isn't a priority list up by now.

It's only been about a week or so since v9.3x has been out hasn't it? IIRC historically it's been at least two weeks before the priority page becomes available...I think I remember almost four weeks on one upgrade.