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Old 07-23-2007, 01:20 PM   #271
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I don’t know what TiVo’s sales projections were, of course, but if they were at all grand I think they were doomed to disappointment.
they never expected the current S3 to be mass amrket and made repeated statements to that point. The S3 did exactly what TiVo wnated it to do.

what caught them by surprise was the uptick in regular folk going HD. They assumed HD was still in the Home Theater enthisiast crowd and the market was not so big for a lower end HD unit. Best Buy could give them some hard numbers on this demographic and TiVo seems to have placed a lower end HD DVR on the front burner to catch up on lower end sales they had not identifeid earlier. Of course digital HD is digital HD so the premium S3 was not amde with many features to set it apart. the OLED and THX seem to be the extras so far from the pictures we have seen so far. OOnce people can compare the actual video output and performance that will be the real test
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:25 PM   #272
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They have the GT HD Concept as a free demo.
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Old 07-23-2007, 01:35 PM   #273
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They have the GT HD Concept as a free demo.
I remember seeing something about that, but was not sure of its availability. Is it anything more than just an HD version of GT4?

I don't mean to hijack this thread any further, but I worry about not having vibration in the controllers anymore. I think I'd miss that.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:55 PM   #274
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New information from Engadget?

New TiVo Series 3 Information

Sorry, posted the wrong link...

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Old 07-23-2007, 02:57 PM   #275
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Which was the new part? (especially as the article was Posted Jul 17th 2007)

Edit: I think you linked to the wrong article
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:08 PM   #276
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Which was the new part? (especially as the article was Posted Jul 17th 2007)

Edit: I think you linked to the wrong article
Here's the correct link
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:23 PM   #277
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Convienent timing

The timing on the announcment for the new box is a little too convienent. I and many others took advantage of the $299 lifetime transfer to a Series 2 offer, which just happens to finish today. Now, the day after that offer ends, TiVo plans to announce a cheaper HD capable unit. I'll even lay odds that in a month or two they will make a $199 transfer offer for that unit.

Oh well, as long as TiVo doesn't stop making software improvements on the Series 2 like they did on the Series 1, I should be good for a few years. Oh, wait, the Engadget article speculates that TiVo may be planning to phase out the Series 2. There goes that plan.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:23 PM   #278
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Here's the correct link
Not a very reliable source me thinks, especially:
"Oh, and big time bonus for current users: TiVoToGo is on track to finally be re-enabled on Series3 boxes, but there's a fairly huge caveat: SD shows only, HD shows will have to stay safely stowed on the box. Bummer."
More likely it's any protected digital content (SD or HD with CCI != 0x0) that cannot be transferred with everything else being fair game (SD and HD). Also no mention of MRV which for many is more important than TTG.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:31 PM   #279
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Not a very reliable source me thinks, especially:
"Oh, and big time bonus for current users: TiVoToGo is on track to finally be re-enabled on Series3 boxes, but there's a fairly huge caveat: SD shows only, HD shows will have to stay safely stowed on the box. Bummer."
More likely it's any protected digital content (SD or HD with CCI != 0x0) that cannot be transferred with everything else being fair game (SD and HD). Also no mention of MRV which for many is more important than TTG.
Engadget has been pretty good with their predictions (except that whole Apple stock fiasco). We'll know soon enough.

Edit: stolen from another thread. Pre-orders begin tomorrow. Seems legit.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:35 PM   #280
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Not a very reliable source me thinks,
I don't put much stock in engadget, but ...

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The AP story says pre-orders will be taken on tuesday on TiVo's Web site, and units will be in stores by early august.

http://hdtivo.wordpress.com/2007/07...s-happening-11/

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Old 07-23-2007, 03:37 PM   #281
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Engadget has been pretty good with their predictions (except that whole Apple stock fiasco). We'll know soon enough.
It doesn't make much sense that, for example, one could transfer shows from SD premium channels such as from SD HBO channels that has CCI=0x02 (copy once restriction), but one cannot transfer from ABC HD with CCI=0x0 (copy freely). Much more logical (and without raising Cablelabs eyebrows) is to restrict MRV/TTG to channels marked as copy freely, which encompasses many SD and HD digital channels (in addition to most analog encoded channels without macrovision) and rules out most of the premium channels (SD and HD). As you say, time will tell...
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:55 PM   #282
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I am betting when they said SD only no HD they meant analog channels only no digital. That gets messed up a lot of the time by people.
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:02 PM   #283
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I have the full spec .pdf here. I think I can release it after midnight.
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:07 PM   #284
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I have the full spec .pdf here. I think I can release it after midnight.
Midnight indiana time?
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Old 07-23-2007, 04:15 PM   #285
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:00 PM   #286
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I have the full spec .pdf here. I think I can release it after midnight.
Looks like I'll be up all night again.
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:18 PM   #287
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I have the full spec .pdf here. I think I can release it after midnight.
It's Midnight Greenwich Mean Time so release it already!
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:38 PM   #288
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I have the full spec .pdf here. I think I can release it after midnight.
OK, but will you?

I vote for "Yes, of course".
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:54 PM   #289
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I have the full spec .pdf here. I think I can release it after midnight.
Ooh, six more hours (CST). Mind dropping a teaser once an hour to build up the suspense?
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:15 PM   #290
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it seems to be here!

it wont let me post a link, but if you go to tivos website and click on buy tivo the new one is up.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:18 PM   #291
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it wont let me post a link, but if you go to tivos website and click on buy tivo the new one is up.
LOL, I was just posting the image in a new thread. And I though I was the first to notice
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:25 PM   #292
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LOL, I was just posting the image in a new thread. And I though I was the first to notice
It's up there, but it's all screwed up. They must have put it up in a hurry.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:27 PM   #293
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I think they are still loading the parts.

As soon as MRV works on this, I'm buying.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:31 PM   #294
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LOL, I was just posting the image in a new thread. And I though I was the first to notice
Confirmed. A 180-hour model (presumably the 160GB drive), with the pricing mangled by a web page scripting glitch.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:33 PM   #295
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Does this mean the 180hour Series 2 DT has been Ghosted? I noticed that when I ordered my 80 hour S2DT 8 days ago the 180 hour was out of stock... It appears that it is no longer in the lineup...

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Old 07-23-2007, 06:35 PM   #296
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Confirmed. A 180-hour model (presumably the 160GB drive), with the pricing mangled by a web page scripting glitch.
Now it's gone. It was there and I looked at it, then I clicked on the back button and refreshed, and it's no longer there.
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Yep. And the S2 DT 180 is also still gone.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:42 PM   #298
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Must have been an oops while then upload the rest of the content... I snapped some screenshots in this thread .
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:08 PM   #299
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I think they are still loading the parts.

As soon as MRV works on this, I'm buying.
Well, they really need MRV and TTG working on this box as it (and the expandable storage) are the primary advantages of going with this box over the Comcast DVR that will be running Tivo software this winter.
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:00 PM   #300
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TiVo Targets the Mainstream

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