Upgrading Your Hacked HR10-250 to 6.3 - Page 7

cheer · 09-15-2006, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader

Egads! HE'S 40 years old?!?

(Bastard looks good for his age!)

He wasn't made our leader because he's a scientific genius, you know.

Tivogre · 09-15-2006, 12:22 AM

Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.....

Some good news, and some bad news...

I went ahead and deleted the hda6 file I created, and renamed the .old file back.

I proceeded to reboot and...

SUCCESSFULLY booted into 6.3.

I did get my "fakecall successful" during the boot process.

HOWEVER, my local OTA channels were not populated. No big deal... I just re-scanned.

My local guide data is blank (scheduled programming). No big deal (I assume) it will re-load.

I have no network connectivity or caller ID.

Verified version 6.3 in system information.

BAD THINGS...

My account status says "Account closed... call DIRECTV"

My DVR Service says "inactive".

I can't initiate any recordings.

Trying to press record in live TV gives me a pop-up that I need to activate DVR service.

I also can't go into any of the "Pick Program to record" options. There's a black banner message at the bottom of the screen that says "acquiring satellite info, pick programs to record will be available in about 30 minutes".... but it's been an hour already.

I hope nothing is screwed up TOO badly.

I can always re-image and zipper if need be.

rbautch · 09-15-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by klaroby

I also had 8192 records. I finally gave up and used a ptv upgrade disk to copy a new kernel to the boot partition. I rebooted and the update works fine. Like everyone else though, I lost telnet and ftp so I am not sure whether I lost my hacks or not. 30 second skip does not work. Does that mean that I lost my hacks?

Losing 30-sec skip is expected because you have a new tivoapp now (can't reuse your old patched tivoapp). Since the slicer halted before it had a chance to copy your files over to the new partition, your hacks are probably still sitting on the other partition. If you pull the drive you can mount both partitions and copy them over, especially your author file. If you try this, you might also delete any insmod commands from your author file or elsewhere to see if that brings back network access.

rrr22777 · 09-15-2006, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by klaroby

I also had 8192 records. I finally gave up and used a ptv upgrade disk to copy a new kernel to the boot partition. I rebooted and the update works fine. Like everyone else though, I lost telnet and ftp so I am not sure whether I lost my hacks or not. 30 second skip does not work. Does that mean that I lost my hacks?

I had a Instantcake and PTVNet unit on which I used Slicer. 30 second skip works fine after I did the remote codes.

jjn · 09-15-2006, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cheer

As someone who turns 41 in five days, I sincerely hope your HR10-250s (I presume you didn't mean HR20) do NOT get the update until the very last day.

My Bad

Must have had a Senior Moment.

2= HR10-250 waiting to be upgraded...

A.C. · 09-15-2006, 12:48 AM

I just tried to do a manual upgrade per the instructions in the howto that's over in the yahoo forum. I starts off good, but then hangs with the following message:

Initializing First Activation Date

I have to break out, and then reboot for things to get back to normal. The upgrade doesn't take. Anyone have an idea why it's doing this?

pdawg17 · 09-15-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rbautch

Well, it's official. Those of us with HR10-250's running painfully slow 3.1 software will finally get the upgrade to 6.3. The new release is being discussed here (thanks, Earl!). If you have a hacked HR10-250, and want to keep it hacked, here are a few options for you.

Option 1. Take the upgrade, let it overwrite your hacks, and then re-hack it at a later time. There's two things you need to do in preparation for the upgrade. The first is to edit your author file to remove the following lines:

Code:

route add -host 204.176.49.2 gw 127.0.0.1
route add -net 204.176.49.0 gw 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0

Then type the following command at the bash prompt to modify your bootpage to allow the upgrade:

Code:

bootpage -P "root=/dev/hdaX dsscon=true console=2,115200" /dev/hda

where X is your root filesystem partition (either 4 or 7). Make sure you get this right or your Tivo won’t boot. After you get the upgrade, pull the drive and hack it.

Option 2. I prefer this option because you don’t have to pull the drive out of your Tivo, you don't need a phone line connected, and it's possible you'll get the upgrade sooner than you would otherwise. It involves doing a “slice upgrade” that installs the new software without disturbing your hacks. Previously this method was a little tedious, but a new PTVupgrade product called “The Slicer” should do the job easily. I say “should” because I have not yet tried it on my HR10-250. I did try it on my dad’s standalone, and it worked very well. Just FTP it to your Tivo and run it…that simple. There’s an article on it over on the “other forum” (the playground, not DDB).

To monitor your system for the arrival of 6.3 slices, see here.

Please post your experiences with upgrading your hacked HR10-250 here.

Do you also need to remove fakecall? When I try to force a call it says "failed while negotiating"...

W2DHS · 09-15-2006, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rbautch

Do you get an error? How do you know it's not using it?

Slicer reported "sed not found" or "sed not present." I can't recall the exact message.

W2DHS · 09-15-2006, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Vader

What about those who ran the earlier version of The Slicer but added the Installsw file? Were they ultimately successful, and were their hacks still present?

I was successful in that I got the upgrade to work, but I lost my networking. I'm not sure what happened since I am pretty sure I had a static IP assigned. No new IPs show up on my network.

Slicer reported it had copied my hacks OK but I cannot check until I get back into the box.

agzela · 09-15-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by W2DHS

I was successful in that I got the upgrade to work, but I lost my networking. I'm not sure what happened since I am pretty sure I had a static IP assigned. No new IPs show up on my network.

Slicer reported it had copied my hacks OK but I cannot check until I get back into the box.

Check out the release notes(1.1) on the slicer support page, specifically #3 "Now detecting if you have backported drivers in place, and copying them over if they’re there. Also copying usb.map"

I suspect that since you originally used slicer 1.0 and then used the installsw.itcl provided by rbautch the #3 process is what you are missing..Use a serial cable and try copying the backported drivers and usb stuff.

rbautch · 09-15-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pdawg17

Do you also need to remove fakecall? When I try to force a call it says "failed while negotiating"...

No, but make sure you reboot after you remove the loopback routes from your author file.

Mikey_C · 09-15-2006, 10:48 AM

Well it looks like I have screwed up my HR10-250. I downloaded the slicer program and it ran with no errors except for something about not finding usb.map. The box rebooted and everything looked good, but no networking. So I pulled out my trusty serial cable and connected and checked and everything seemed to be in place as it was before (hacks directory, tivowebplus, etc.). So I'm assuming the usb.map thing might have something to do with the network not working...which is ok for now (i'll figure that part out soon enough).

What is really a problem is that I cannot schedule any recordings. The box things my DirecTV account is shut down and though I can watch live TV and watch whats already recorded, I get a "Service Message #81" whenever I try to schedule a recording. So I pick up the phone and call DirecTV support explain it to the "support" person, and she immediately transfer to me "advanced support". We go through the motions (unplug the box, wait a minute, plug back in, yada yada), and still nothing. He tries resetting everything on his end and still nothing. He says the box needs to make a call, so I plug the phone in, make the call, call is successful and still nothing. He then says he will get back to me because he needs to do some more research. I am waiting for his call back.

Did I royally screw this up? Am I looking at re-imaging with a 3.x Instant Cake and waiting for the upgrade to download again..and then pull my drives and re-hack this...or is there something I can do to fix this on my end? (I could just get the HR20 and suffer through that

) Thanks in advance.

Brillian1080p · 09-15-2006, 11:06 AM

Basic troubleshooting techniques will tell you that it's possible this problem could exist with both unhacked and hacked units. Yes the USB problem is with a hacked unit, but the other problems could be the upgrade itself.

Too many variables. You suggested removing one variable by imaging back to 3.xx. Pain in the rear but one way to go.

Mikey_C · 09-15-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillian1080p

Basic troubleshooting techniques will tell you that it's possible this problem could exist with both unhacked and hacked units. Yes the USB problem is with a hacked unit, but the other problems could be the upgrade itself.

Too many variables. You suggested removing one variable by imaging back to 3.xx. Pain in the rear but one way to go.

Has anyone got a "System Message #81" with a non-hacked unit?

pdawg17 · 09-15-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rbautch

No, but make sure you reboot after you remove the loopback routes from your author file.

I did because I also entered the command listed in option 1 as well...I rebooted after that...looking at my tclient log, it looks like I had "succeeded" calls until I made the changes to the author file (although I don't know how fakecall works - does to make the tive think the call succeeded?)...have other people done option one and had it call in fine?

Edit: Reading through other posts, it looks like a lot of people are having trouble forcing a call and getting a "failed while negotiating" message...so it may have nothing to do with being a hacked unit or a mistake in the author file...

samhammer · 09-15-2006, 11:23 AM

I lost networking on my HR10 a month or so ago. I did not do anything about it because of the rumors of 6.x cominig out.

Last night my box took the update. I can now see and ping the box from the network, however neither telenet or ftp will connect. Should I just hook up the disk to the pc and redo the author file making sure the telenet an ftp files are there to load and pointing to the correct place?

Sam

cheer · 09-15-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by samhammer

I lost networking on my HR10 a month or so ago. I did not do anything about it because of the rumors of 6.x cominig out.

Last night my box took the update. I can now see and ping the box from the network, however neither telenet or ftp will connect. Should I just hook up the disk to the pc and redo the author file making sure the telenet an ftp files are there to load and pointing to the correct place?

Sam

Odds are your box is essentially unhacked now. You'll need to replace the kernel, set up a new .author file, etc. etc.

bxs122 · 09-15-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rbautch

I like the slice method because theoretically, you won't have to pull the drive. I'm going to hold off quite awhile on releasing a Zipper for 6.3 until things have settled down, and we know more about which hacks work and which don't. If you're not the adventurous type, you might choose option 1 and just live with an unhacked tivo for a few months.

I purchase the Slicer and also have the latest version but having read this thread I am reluctant to use it.

If I go with option 1 and revert back to an unhacked version can I later run the current zipper?

bxs122 · 09-15-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rrr22777

OK no problems with the Slicer except networking. Complete process takes about 30 minutes.

What problem did you run into with your networking? Did you lose networking capabilities? If so what USB network interface component are you using?

If networking is a common problem then it seems to me the latest 6.3 reverts back to USB 1.1 vs. the USB 2.0 we had via zipper.

rrr22777 · 09-15-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bxs122

What problem did you run into with your networking? Did you lose networking capabilities? If so what USB network interface component are you using?

If networking is a common problem then it seems to me the latest 6.3 reverts back to USB 1.1 vs. the USB 2.0 we had via zipper.

Lost all networking. The light on the USB 1.1 does not even light up.

rrr22777 · 09-15-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bxs122

I purchase the Slicer and also have the latest version but having read this thread I am reluctant to use it (so much for the twenty bucks)

If I go with option 1 and revert back to an unhacked version can I later run the current zipper?

Best bet right now is wait till everything is worked out or buy a serial cable to you can get back into the box if you loose networking.

rrr22777 · 09-15-2006, 11:51 AM

Anyone know how to use the serial cable?

bxs122 · 09-15-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rrr22777

Anyone know how to use the serial cable?

I think I saw something online showing how to build one.
I also somewhere someone was selling them.

It would have been nice if it were a generic DB9.

I purchased an IOGear USB to Serial for communicating with my D11, I wonder if that would work on the HR10-250.

rrr22777 · 09-15-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bxs122

I think I saw something online showing how to build one.
I also somewhere someone was selling them.

It would have been nice if it were a generic DB9.

I purchased an IOGear USB to Serial for communicating with my D11, I wonder if that would work on the HR10-250.

Yes I have seen a log of places online selling them but I cant seem to find instructions on how to use it.

rbautch · 09-15-2006, 12:41 PM

Cheer discovered that using ifconfig in your author file to set up networking (like we did before with 3.1.5) does not work at all with 6.3. This is the why adapters are not lighting up after the reboot. The alternative is to run a tcl script that sets up networking in MFS. The catch is that you have to have access to the tivo to run it, so you'll either need a serial cable, or need to have your author file run it automatically. Fortunately, the Zipper was written to do the latter, and I have volunteered that code to PTVupgrade to include in the next Slicer release. Not sure if they'll be able to fold it in, or if it needs be run separately. For those of you who have already done the upgrade and lost networking, here are three options:

1. Pull the drive, boot to a Linux boot CD, mount your NEW root filesystem (if you don't know it type bootpage -p), and copy lghahn's netconfig script to it. Add a line to your author file to run the script with the appropriate arguments for ipadress, subnetmask, defaultgw, and dns-server. Also remove any network setup and driver loading commands from your author file or anywhere else (backup the original author file first). These start with "ifconfig" or "insmod". It's probably easier to create a new author file on your PC and then copy it do the drive.

2. Connect a serial cable, and edit the author file as described above. If you hacked your tivo with the Zipper, you can use the network.tcl script in the /enhancements directory instead of netconfig.tcl, so you won't have to transfer anything over the serial cable. I wrote network.tcl mainly for wireless/WEP configuration, but if will work for a wired connection if you add a line in your author file like this:

Code:

tivosh /enhancements/network.tcl 192.168.1.105 192.168.1.1

where the arguments are ipaddress and defaultgw.

3. Reimage the drive with 3.1.5, take the upgrade again, and wait for the next Slicer release (v.1.2), which is supposed to fix the networking issue.

4. It's possible that using a killhdinitrd 7.2.2 kernel (on the PTVupgrade lba48 boot disc) could eliminate the need to set network settings in MFS, and it easier than the first two options. Pull the drive and mount it in your PC. Copy the kernel from your CD to your tivo or to /var if you have enough room. Gunzip it with

Code:

gunzip -d -v vmlinux.px.gz

then install it with

Code:

dd if=vmlinux.px of=/dev/hdaX bs=1024 count=2048

where X is your new kernel partion. It wouldn't hurt to copy it to both 3 and 6 if you don't know.

bxs122 · 09-15-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rrr22777

Yes I have seen a log of places online selling them but I cant seem to find instructions on how to use it.

I have not done this with the HR10 but my first guess would be to connect the tivo and PC then open HyperTerminal and select direct to COMn where n is the COM port you are using on the PC side. You should see something.

cheer · 09-15-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bxs122

I think I saw something online showing how to build one.
I also somewhere someone was selling them.

Yep. You can build one, or you can order one from 9th Tee. (Scroll down; you'll see it.)

cheer · 09-15-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rbautch

Cheer discovered that using ifconfig in your author file to set up networking (like we did before with 3.1.5) does not work at all with 6.3. This is the why adapters are not lighting up after the reboot.

Just a correction: my adapter was lighting up just fine. Not lighting suggests a driver problem, not the ifconfig problem.

bxs122 · 09-15-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rbautch

1. Pull the drive, boot to a Linux boot CD, mount your NEW root filesystem (if you don't know it type bootpage -p), and copy lghahn's netconfig script to it. Add a line to your author file to run the script with the appropriate arguments for ipadress, subnetmask, defaultgw, and dns-server. Also remove any network setup and driver loading commands from your author file or anywhere else. These start with "ifconfig" or "insmod". It's probably easier to create a new author file on your PC and then copy it do the drive.

Thank you so much for doing the leg-work needed to solve this.

I am just in the process of learning the linux/tivo side of the world so please be patient with my questions (I come from an MCE background):

1. running bootpage -p will list? and then to mount I use mount /dev/hdc /name
2. lghahn's netconfig script, is there a location to download this.
could I instead copy the current network.tcl before I run The Slicer?
3. author file - is this the rc.init.author? where is it located?

thanx

tivoupgrade · 09-15-2006, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rbautch

Cheer discovered that using ifconfig in your author file to set up networking (like we did before with 3.1.5) does not work at all with 6.3. This is the why adapters are not lighting up after the reboot. The alternative is to run a tcl script that sets up networking in MFS. The catch is that you have to have access to the tivo to run it, so you'll either need a serial cable, or need to have your author file run it automatically. Fortunately, the Zipper was written to do the latter, and I have volunteered that code to PTVupgrade to include in the next Slicer release. Not sure if they'll be able to fold it in, or if it needs be run separately. For those of you who have already done the upgrade and lost networking, here are three options:

3. Reimage the drive with 3.1.5, take the upgrade again, and wait for the next Slicer release.

If you haven't already done the upgrade, the next slicer may be the one that gets it right on the first try.

For those who purchased The Slicer (as of this post's timestamp), mangled their systems and who choose option 3, we will provide a free copy of InstantCake (3.1.5f) to make things easier. We'll also provide a free update to The Slicer, once we've confirmed that it all works. (please PM me with your order number and a valid email address)

Much appreciation to the bleeding edge folks who've helped things along here.