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11-20-2005, 10:36 PM
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Beware of Conky!
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TiVo is coming to your iPod, PSP
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from The Startribune.com
SAN JOSE, CALIF. - TiVo Inc. is expanding its video recording service so users will be able to transfer recorded TV shows onto Apple Computer's iPods or Sony's PlayStation Portable -- the latest move to make TV available for viewing anywhere.
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11-20-2005, 10:42 PM
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How did the startribune get this scoop? Any other confirmations?
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11-20-2005, 10:44 PM
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Beware of Conky!
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Originally Posted by peteypete
How did the startribune get this scoop? Any other confirmations?
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from The LATimes.com
TiVo to Expand Portable Features
It is expected to allow users to transfer TV programs to iPods and PlayStations. The service could be available early next year.
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from Seattlepi.com
Consumers would need certain video encoding software on their computers, provided by TiVo or bought elsewhere for about $15 to $30 in stores.
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At least it's cheap, eh?
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11-20-2005, 10:49 PM
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Excellent! I may have to get one of those video ipods now. I heard somewhere that people were hacking Nanos to be able to play video. Anybody hear about that.
Maybe this development will finally make mac users happy!
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11-20-2005, 10:53 PM
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Deep In The Mattcave
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I have a video iPod, and this would make me very happy to have a onestep process for putting video from my TiVo on my iPod.
(at least I'm hoping that's what it will be)
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11-20-2005, 11:15 PM
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Beware of Conky!
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Originally Posted by mattman
I have a video iPod, and this would make me very happy to have a onestep process for putting video from my TiVo on my iPod.
(at least I'm hoping that's what it will be)
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from the latimes story
TiVo subscribers will need to purchase special software to tap the features, said Jim Denney, TiVo's vice president of product marketing. The TiVo box would need to be connected to a home network and the program would first have to be transferred to a PC.
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Download to your pc, then transfer to a ipod or a psp. Twostep process?
(gotta strap on the old ipod/psp drm before transfer to a ipod/psp)
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11-20-2005, 11:33 PM
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TiVo Forum Special Member
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'Tis true, 'tis true...
Those pesky reporters, jumping the gun again.
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11-20-2005, 11:35 PM
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I can't explain
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Originally Posted by from star tribune article
With its introduction in January of TiVoToGo, the digital video recording pioneer gave its broadband Series2 subscribers the ability to transfer recorded shows to Windows-based PCs and laptops as well as portable media players. But the service was available only to Microsoft-compatible devices. Now, by adding support for the MPEG-4 video format, TiVo hopes to capitalize on the popularity of iPods and PSPs.
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MPEG-4 ? WTF?
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maybe noting that a TiVo representative has no desire to post in the TiVo community forum can get the forum owners to wake up
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PLEASE. Seriously, life is rough enough. Let's make it easy when we can.
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11-20-2005, 11:35 PM
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TiVo Forum Special Member
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Originally Posted by jmoak
Download to your pc, then transfer to a ipod or a psp. Twostep process?
(gotta strap on the old ipod/psp drm before transfer to a ipod/psp)
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Two step? We're not in Texas, are we?
More details to come...
Pony
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11-20-2005, 11:39 PM
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Beware of Conky!
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Originally Posted by ZeoTiVo
MPEG-4 ? WTF?
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hehehe...
I saw the light bulb over your head come on from way over here!
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11-20-2005, 11:42 PM
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According to the Wall Street Journal...
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TiVo Plans to Allow Unlimited
TV-Show Downloads to iPods
By NICK WINGFIELD and BROOKS BARNES
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1132...red_stories_hs
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Getting TiVo to work with an iPod isn't as simple as downloading music and videos to Apple's device from iTunes. First, a user's TiVo records a show onto the machine's hard drive. Then, the program is transferred over a home network to a PC, where it is translated into a video format compatible with the iPod. Next, the video must be transferred to the iPod from the PC. The whole process of getting an hour-long show onto an iPod could take more than two hours from the time a TiVo device finishes recording it.
For that reason, TiVo expects its users to set their machines to download shows to their iPods overnight. TiVo says the new software it will begin testing automates the process of synchronizing a TiVo and iPod. For weeks, TiVo users have traded tips over the Internet for getting TiVo shows onto the new iPod, but the process is labor-intensive in most cases. "We're trying to make it easy," says Jim Denney, vice president of product marketing at TiVo.
Mr. Denney says the size of video files will vary depending on the recording quality users select on their TiVos, but he estimates that 2˝ hours of video in most cases will eat up about one gigabyte of storage on an iPod, or roughly one-thirtieth of the capacity of Apple's entry-level video iPod.
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11-20-2005, 11:43 PM
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I like the PSP part. Much more sturdy looking a gadget than an iPod.
Of course, series 1 owners can't make use of this...
Or can we?
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11-20-2005, 11:47 PM
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Opps....TiVo to rat you out...
Not cool...
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To help prevent piracy, TiVo says its software will insert an invisible watermark in shows that are formatted for iPods. If such programs show up on Internet file-sharing networks, entertainment companies, working with TiVo, will be able to use the watermark to identify the TiVo user from which it originated.
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11-20-2005, 11:50 PM
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I can't explain
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Originally Posted by burnsy
Not cool...
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To help prevent piracy, TiVo says its software will insert an invisible watermark in shows that are formatted for iPods. If such programs show up on Internet file-sharing networks, entertainment companies, working with TiVo, will be able to use the watermark to identify the TiVo user from which it originated.
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I would rather a watermark and the ability to officially move video around for my own fair use then the current DRM and no official way to do things.
A watermark only hurts those that would put the show out for illegal use beyond their own personal fair use.
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PLEASE. Seriously, life is rough enough. Let's make it easy when we can.
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11-20-2005, 11:58 PM
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I can't explain
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Originally Posted by jmoak
hehehe...
I saw the light bulb over your head come on from way over here!
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well it is just MPEG-4 outside the TiVo box for now. Be nice when we can stream/copy MPEG-4 back to the box 
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maybe noting that a TiVo representative has no desire to post in the TiVo community forum can get the forum owners to wake up
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PLEASE. Seriously, life is rough enough. Let's make it easy when we can.
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11-20-2005, 11:58 PM
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Beware of Conky!
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not to question your ratting, but...
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Originally Posted by burnsy
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If you can transfer the video to your computer, edit it to your hearts content, stick it on your harddrive and watch it anytime you want, make a dvd out of it AND transfer and watch it on quite a few portable devices (now including the most popular ones)...
What makes it "uncool"?
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11-21-2005, 12:01 AM
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Beware of Conky!
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Originally Posted by ZeoTiVo
well it is just MPEG-4 outside the TiVo box for now. Be nice when we can stream/copy MPEG-4 back to the box |
One of those articles said something about "in the background" conversion of Tivo's mpeg2 to mpeg4, why not the other way around for 'net content?
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11-21-2005, 12:03 AM
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I can already transfer video from my DirecTiVo to my video iPod with a single click. Why would I pay somebody for this?
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11-21-2005, 12:06 AM
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Beware of Conky!
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Originally Posted by Arcady
I can already transfer video from my DirecTiVo to my video iPod with a single click. Why would I pay somebody for this?
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Bless your heart, YOU don't have to!
But dem other folks, deay ain't as sharp as you be. Dis stuff here is fo dem regulr peoples. Now deay git to play jes lik de smrt fellers do!
YeeHaw!
well, not JUST like you do, but you get my drift!
Last edited by jmoak : 11-21-2005 at 12:22 AM.
Reason: WOOPS! Fregot t' add da YeeHaw!
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11-21-2005, 12:13 AM
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urban achiever
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Originally Posted by burnsy
Not cool...
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To help prevent piracy, TiVo says its software will insert an invisible watermark in shows that are formatted for iPods. If such programs show up on Internet file-sharing networks, entertainment companies, working with TiVo, will be able to use the watermark to identify the TiVo user from which it originated.
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I would rather a watermark and the ability to officially move video around for my own fair use then the current DRM and no official way to do things.
A watermark only hurts those that would put the show out for illegal use beyond their own personal fair use.
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What Zeo said. The only reason an invisible watermark is bad is if you have intentions of illegally distributing the content from your TiVo to a wide audience.
I can't think of any sceanario where legitamate fair use is impacted by an invisible watermark.
As long as you keep the files to yourself (and maybe your family and friends), an invisible watermark is not going to cause you any trouble.
Why is that so uncool? It's a hell of a lot better than draconian DRM technologies... think Sony's recent botched attempts...
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11-21-2005, 12:27 AM
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Just to clarify...
There will be a beta for this. But it's not starting today...the beta will start up sometime next month. There's no start date to share yet, and no amount of begging or bribing will get you into that beta. Of course you can still try! But it won't work.
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11-21-2005, 12:27 AM
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Ok, it would be super cool if you could just plug the ipod into the usb port of the tivo and then download using the remote control.
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11-21-2005, 12:36 AM
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Macs?
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Originally Posted by peteypete
Maybe this development will finally make mac users happy!
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Do we even know if there will be Mac support for this? Probably not, given Tivo's track record...
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11-21-2005, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeoTiVo
A watermark only hurts those that would put the show out for illegal use beyond their own personal fair use.
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Well then, hope you enjoy that RFID tag in your passport and the hidden watermark from your color printer!
I hope the police do not find criminals with your stolen iPod, track it back to you, and accuse you of a crime you did not commit, just because you decided to give up your privacy to TiVo.
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11-21-2005, 02:28 AM
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TiVo to charge for this software according to the WSJ...
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11-21-2005, 02:50 AM
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Just Me!
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I have not been one to complain about the lack of Mac HMO support but this will truly suck if folks with Macs can't take advantage of this!
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11-21-2005, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny Banyan
TiVo to charge for this software according to the WSJ...
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I was all excited until I saw this.
Then again, why would they charge for this and not Tivo Desktop?
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11-21-2005, 03:20 AM
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Why would anyone want to share a 320x240 file designed for a video iPod, when you can download HDTV-quality stuff anyway? As usual, DRM just serves to keep technology difficult to use for everyday users.
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11-21-2005, 03:42 AM
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$15 or $30 one-time fee makes this easily worth it. Jeez folks, that's a small price to pay for functionality you didn't ever expect when you bought your TiVo....Hopefully TiVoToGo will come to Mac with this, would be a reasonable time to do it. Also, I like the watermark idea, as long as they let people know about it. It can encourage people to not do illegal things with it while giving the normal folks new ways to use the content.
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11-21-2005, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by peteypete
Maybe this development will finally make mac users happy!
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yeah, no sweat.
just download the video to my PC via TiVoToGo and then transfer it to my Mac.
something wrong there, oh yeah, tivotogo doesn't even work for the mac in the first place
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