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Old 07-13-2003, 12:45 PM   #1
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Cool New Almost Complete TiVo Codes List

This list was borrowed from a more recent list posted by Otto over at dbsforums.com
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The Almost Complete TiVo Codes List

Last Updated: 07-11-03 (4.0 codes section added)
Posted to this forum: 03-05-03

Warning:
Use of any of these codes may cause unknown amounts of harm to your TiVo's data (setup parameters, recorded or scheduled programs, preferences, guide data, etc.). They could conceivably cause your TiVo to act in some way that might upset TiVo Inc. and cause them to terminate your service. Who knows!? Try these codes entirely AT YOUR OWN RISK! They will void your warrenty, turn your hair white, make your friends spit at you, and cause your parents to claim they have no idea who you are anymore. But hey, if you're okay with it, so are we.

Some of these codes WILL damage your unit if you do not read this entire document for the warnings. Read everything here before going and actually doing any of this crazy stuff, okay?

Most of this information comes from the TiVo Hack FAQ and from various postings to the TiVo forums. There are no guarantees that any of these will work on any particular system now or in the future. I try to keep up with version numbers, but I'm not perfect. Okay?

Index:
1. Enabling Backdoor Mode
2. Select-Play-Select Codes
3. Clear-Enter-Clear Codes
4. Enter-Enter codes
5. Clear-Clear-Enter-Enter codes
6. Triple Thumb codes
7. AutoTest mode
8. Dialing codes
9. Sorting the Now Playing List
10. Shortcuts
11. Outdated Codes
12. 4.0 codes

1. Enabling Backdoor Mode
The Backdoor mode can be entered using the remote. This is done by doing a "Browse By Name" or "Search by Title" or wherever you can get to the Ouija screen... Currently, the only easy way to exit backdoor mode is to reboot the Tivo. After entering this code, you will see "Backdoors Enabled!" appear briefly, and it will return to Tivo Central. You can verify that backdoors are on in the System Information screen.

1.3 US and 1.5.0 or 1.51 UK systems: Enter "0V1T" and press Thumbs Up.

1.5.2 UK systems: Enter "10J0M" and press Thumbs Up.

2.0 systems: Enter "2 0 TCD" and press Thumbs Up.

2.5 US and 2.5.5 UK systems: Enter "B D 2 5" and press Thumbs Up.

2.5.2 systems (DirecTivo Only): Enter "B M U S 1" and press Thumbs Up.

3.0 systems: Enter "3 0 BC" and press Thumbs Up.

3.2 / 4.0 systems: Not known at this time. Nevertheless, not all of the codes in this list require backdoor mode to be turned on, notably, all the SPS codes as well as a few others.

If you know of any other codes, it would be appreciated if you could tell me so I can add them.

It should be noted that simply enabling backdoors turns on many new things:
- More info in System Information (including Uptime)
- More info in program detail screens
- 3.0 boxes will have View Upcoming Episodes enabled in Tivolution Magazine and Showcase entries
- And so on...

2. Select-Play-Select Codes
These codes take the format of "Select Play Select Something Select". These do not require backdoors to be enabled for them to work. The best way to do this type of code is to start playing a recorded program and do them while the recorded program is playing. They can be done from LiveTV as well, but people generally have a hard time getting them to work when trying to do that.

S-P-S-9-S - Toggles the Clock display in the bottom right corner. When you are watching LiveTV or a recording, this will show the time and where you are at in the recording. It's a toggle, so do it again to turn it off. However, when you turn it off, it doesn't disappear, you must go into a Tivo menu and return for it to go away. The Elapsed Time Indicator was removed in 3.0, to the general groan of everyone (it was very handy). They appear to have added it back to 3.2 on Series 2 boxes, but whether this becomes generally true is anybody's guess.

S-P-S-InstantReplay-S - Toggles a Status display in the bottom right corner. This displays what the Tivo is currently doing. Bit useless, really. Do it again to toggle it back off. Like the clock code, it doesn't disappear when you turn it off, you must go into a menu to make it disappear.

S-P-S-Pause-S - Toggles the fast disappear of the Play bar. Appears to have no other major effect, but who knows?

S-P-S-3-0-S (1.3, also 2.5, not 2.0 or 2.01) - Toggles 30 second skip mode. This turns the Skip to End button into a 30 second skip button. This was removed in 2.0x, but added back in 2.5.

3. Clear-Enter-Clear Codes
C-E-C stands for "Clear Enter Clear". Note: the claim is that all "C-E-C something" combinations will make the same confirmation tones, but they may or may not do anything. Here are the known codes.

C-E-C Thumbs-Up - Will allow you to access the TiVo's log files on your TV screen. Page up and page down allow you to move through the log information and the right arrow you to move through the log files. Use the left arrow key to get back out to the normal TiVo menus. Thumbs up and Thumbs down will take you to the top of bottom of whatever log is on screen.

C-E-C Thumbs-Down - Will shut down the myworld program on a TiVo. The myworld program is the brain of the TiVo. Shutting it down is not advisable since the only thing you can do with the TiVo at that point is use the BASH shell if you activated one. If you do have a BASH prompt you can rerun the myworld program to get the TiVo running fully again. If not you need to power down and up the TiVo to get it fully functional again.

C-E-C-0 (2.0) - This turns off the display of "scheduled suggestions" in the ToDo List. Also makes the clock (see SPS9S) NOT have a black bar behind it.

C-E-C-1 (2.0) - This turns off the display of "scheduled suggestions" in the ToDo List. Also makes the clock (see SPS9S) have a black bar behind it.

C-E-C-2 (2.0) - This turns on the display of "scheduled suggestions" in the ToDo List. A "scheduled suggestion" is a suggestion the Tivo is planning on recording. It doesn't take effect until something changes in the ToDo List. To cancel a scheduled suggestion, see this post.

C-E-C-3 (2.0) - Appears to do the exact same thing as CEC2. I'm pretty certain there's more to this than we are aware of right now.

**2.5 note**: C-E-C 0-3 (the above 4 codes) do not appear to work in 2.5, but they do still affect the "black background" of the clock. They just don't do anything for the suggestions in the ToDo List. To put suggestions in the ToDo list, see the "thumbs thumbs" code below.

C-E-C 4 - This forces suggestions to be rebuilt (same as 'sendkey dumpState'?).

C-E-C 5 - Toggles the overshoot correction during fast forwarding on and off.

C-E-C Fast-Forward - This resets (reboots) the TiVo

C-E-C Skip-to-end - Turns on "Boat-Anchor" mode. This convinces the TiVo that it should behave as if it has no guide data. Boat Anchor mode is automatic when the unit runs out of guide data, so this is probably only for testing purposes. A bit useless, really.

C-E-C 6 - Go into the Node Navigator. The Node Navigator is a trick to let you access menus directly. This is extremely dangerous, even to play with. Please do not go into any of the numbered nodes on this screen, you can (and will) break your unit beyond repair, requiring a full restore from a backup, even just by looking at these nodes. The reason is simple: When you enter certain menus or "nodes", changes can take place. For example, if you found the node to set the zipcode (in the Guided Setup routine), and then exited without changing anything, your zipcode would be erased, and would ruin your lineup on the next daily call, causing the unit to reboot when you go to LiveTV. Several things like this can happen, so just don't even do this. If you accidently get here, press the Tivo button to exit back out, and do NOT go into any of the numbered nodes. Even if you have a clue as to what you are doing, you can do damage just by looking around, so don't.

However, there are two extremely cool things here you can adjust in 3.0 software. Thanks goes to gleffler for letting me know about them.

WARNING: Very dangerous! Have a bit of caution, 'kay? If they don't work, they'll likely break your Tivo, and you're very attached to your Tivo, aren't you? THESE ONLY WORK IN 3.0! Have a backup ready to go.

First trick: Node 1 in 3.0. This node lets you adjust the exact timing of the auto-correction jumpback. Forget the offset/delay method listed below, and get precise. Note that entering this node will stop any recording you might have going at the time. This change will stay in effect after a reboot.

Second trick: Advanced Wishlists! Go to Node 30, and turn on advanced wishlists. Now, go to the Create a Wishlist screen and scroll PAST the bottom to find "Advanced Wishlist". From here, you can create a wishlist that is any combination of actors/directors/keywords/and genres. Nice, isn't it? Be as specific as you wanna be. This will stay enabled after a reboot.

Non-3.0 Users (2.5 only?): Appearantly, you can access Advanced Wishlists as well. Just hit 0 (zero) when creating a wishlist instead of picking the type of wishlist. You do need backdoors enabled. This also will work on 3.0 boxes. There may be a node to activate this as well on 2.0 and up boxes, but why muck about with the dangerous Node Navigator if you don't have to?

C-E-C-Slow - same as 'SendKey dumpState', creates a /tmp/mwstate

4. Enter-Enter codes
E-E stands for "Enter Enter". The following codes must be entered in the "Search by Title"screen. These codes are generally used to set values on the Tivo. You enter the code, and the prompt will appear, along with the red recording light coming on. You then enter the value. You then enter the code again to set the value in, and the recording light will go off. It doesn't actually stop recording if you happen to be recording something, however. Entering invalid values (non-numeric) will cause your Tivo to reboot, so be careful.

E-E-1 - Gives you Speed1: prompt. Turns the record LED on (indicating the backdoor is open and can be changed?). Enter a number for how fast you want the first scan speed to run at, and then press E-E-1 again. The record LED will go out.

The last two digits of the number must be 00 for an integer multiple speed. The digits to the left of the 00 indicate how many times normal playing speed the scan is running. 300 (which is 3x) is the default Speed1 scan speed, but you can't see that, you can only enter a number. A value of "1" is super slow motion (.01x speed) Unit will revert back to default speed when rebooted.

Does not appear to work in 2.0, although the prompt is still there.

E-E-2 - Gives you Speed2: prompt. Default is 2000. See Speed1 above. Does not appear to work in 2.0, although the prompt is still there.

E-E-3 - Gives you Speed3: prompt. Default is 6000. See Speed1 above. Does not appear to work in 2.0, although the prompt is still there.

E-E-4 - Gives you Rate1: prompt. Function unknown.

E-E-5 - Gives you Rate2: prompt. Function unknown.

E-E-6 - Gives you Rate3: prompt. Function unknown.

E-E-7 - Gives you Inter: prompt. Function unknown. Same as TIVO_INTERSTITIAL_INTERVAL environment variable (?). Interstitials were removed a long time ago, so this is probably useless.

E-E-8 - Gives you Open: prompt. Function unknown. Same as TIVO_LONGOPEN_INTERVAL environment variable. (?)

E-E-9 - Gives you Int.disabled, or int.enabled prompt. Toggles "interstitials". Intersititials were little TiVo guy animations that occurred between each menu screen. Most of them were deleted as being too annoying, but the initial boot one remains. Setting the TIVO_DISABLE_INTERSTITIALS environment variable to 1 disables it. Toggling "Int." from the remote causes the animation to play every time you hit the TiVo button. (Reported, may not work for everyone).

E-E-Tivo - If in Debug mode (see C-C-E-E 2 below), lets you set the TiVo's clock. Warning: setting this value may cause all of your Guide data to get "expired". If you want to play with this, keep in mind that TiVo may get mad at you for downloading several copies of your Guide data over the course of a couple of days. The best way to fix a messed up clock without reloading all the Guide data is to do the "Make a Test Call" option. The format of the time entry you use is the same as the format for the settime command. (?)

E-E-Rewind - Lets you set the "Offset:". Defaults to 2000.

E-E-FastForward - Lets you set the "Delay:". Defaults to 957.

The Offset and Delay control the overshoot correction. When you set them, go to any recorded program, play it, pause it, and press FF to do a frame advance. This makes the new values you put in take effect. For 1.3 like correction, use Offset of 1000 and Delay of 750.

5. Clear Clear Enter Enter codes
C-C-E-E stands for "Clear Clear Enter Enter". The following codes must be entered in the "System Information" screen.

C-C-E-E 2 - Turns on or off "Special Mode: DEBUG" (Note: you have to leave the "System Information" screen and re-enter it to see this flag turned on.) Starts sending debugging output to the /var/log/tvdebuglog file. This setting will STAY ON after a reboot. Not advised to leave this on for long periods of time.

C-C-E-E 3 - Seems to initiate a call. (a special one?)

C-C-E-E 7 [works even without Backdoors enabled] - Causes a message to be written to /var/log/tven saying: SetupDebugContext:OnNumber[94]: USER PROBLEM LOGSTAMP .

I'm guessing that Customer Support tells customers who are having problems to do CCEE7 around the time that the problem occurs, and then when they upload the logs, they can help locate what was going on when the problem happened.

C-C-E-E 8 - Takes you to the "Channels You Watch" page with NONE OF THE CHANNELS SELECTED! I guess this might be a quick way to clear your channel list. Fortunately you can just back out of it without losing your current channel list. I didn't try going forward from that screen... AVS Forum member "android" warns that this doesn't work ... and that it just hangs his machine..

C-C-E-E 0 [works even without Backdoors enabled] - It allows you to enter your own "Dial-in configuration code"! It does not appear to let you directly change the TFA value.

TFA stands for Toll Free Authorization.
Possible values:
0=[Access] denied ["you probably didn't ask, but you used a local, so QED"]
1=No decision [made yet] (you got time)
2=Oh you requested (we'll get back to ya)
3=Yeah, I guess so
4=Researched and you are out of luck
5=You had your chance but did nothing

The Dial In Access code (the 000 part) can be changed via some special key sequences.... Anyway, when Tivo CS gets a really unusual problem that needs files downloaded to the unit, they can tell the customer to change the access code and it'll then download certain types of files.. These may be predefined debugging type things or may be files the guy just then put on the server.

Best case scenario: Your daily call fails. Worst case scenario: Your Tivo breaks by downloading and running some weird debug thing and is unrepairable without a whole drive backup.

6. Triple Thumb codes (new to 2.5 and up)
New codes, it seems like. There's only a few of these, and they are still being found. Consider them experimental.

- Thumbs Down, Thumbs Down, Thumbs Up, Instant Replay -
:: If done in the ToDo List, it will turn on "Scheduled Suggestions" (See above).
:: If done in the Now Playing List, it will display the "hidden" recordings, like the Teleworld Paid Program. These recordings are those in reserved space.

- Thumbs Down, Thumbs Up, Thumbs Down, Instant Replay
:: If done in Now Playing, it will take you to a new menu called "Clips on Disk". This menu has the same content as the hidden recordings, but broken up into clips like they are in the Showcases. If you don't have any clips for whatever reason (haven't gotten any yet, your cable operator pre-empts the clips program, etc), this will reboot the machine.

- Thumbs Down, Thumbs Up, Thumbs Down, Record
:: Do it from the Tivo Central main menu to get the "MenuItem Back Door". It shows the current date in both the number of days since Jan. 1st, 1970 (an internal date format) and also in the normal style. If there is a menu item at the bottom (ad) then it will show the expiration date.
:: Do it from the Showcases screen to show all the hidden showcases, if there are any. It's a toggle. Do it again to remove them. Hidden showcases are simply the latest showcases that haven't had anything added to them, and have thus expired.

- Thumbs Down, Thumbs Up, Thumbs Down, Clear (3.0)
:: Do it in Tivo Central to change all the fonts to italic.

- Thumbs Down, Thumbs Up, Thumbs Down, Enter
:: Dumps debug messages in /var/log/tvlog

7. AutoTest mode (3.0)
Go into Now Playing, view a description and hit 1,2,3 followed by Channel Down (the logs will now report "***** Auto_test mode unlocked! ***** ").

Hit 4 to start the auto test (it presses random keys to simulate someone using the Tivo.. quite annoying in fact)
Hit 5 to change the test
Hit 7 or 8 to change the delay between simulated keys
Hit 4 again to stop .. might have to reboot to avoid triggering it next time you hit 4

8. Dialing codes
Want to change the way your Tivo calls home? Read on. All these codes are inserted into the dialing prefix space in the Phone Setup stuff.

,#034 - This will limit the speed of the modem to v.34 (28.8k) which may improve your connections if you have poor lines. If you have a lot of failed calls, this might help. Makes the call take about twice as long, in theory.

,#019 - Same concept as above, but slower. If the above won't work, try this. But beware that it will seriously slow down the connection and make the call that much longer. Like 4 times longer than normal, approximately.

,#2xx - 3.0 only - Use PPP over Serial for the daily call.
xx stands for the port speed. The first two digits of the port speed are what you put in here. So:
96 = 9600
38 = 38,400
57 = 57,600
11 = 115,200
And so on..
The ,#2xx code will make the unit try to connect to a computer attached to the serial port using PPP. For more info, search the Underground forums.

,#3xx - 3.0 only - Use PPP over serial for the daily call. This is the same as with ,#2xx, but in this mode, it does a "modem emulation". That is, it will send AT type commands over the serial port as if a modem was there. Some third party PPP servers support exactly this kind of mode. Also, this can allow you to connect an external modem to the serial port and having it really dial and complete a call using that modem. Some sites sell preconfigured external modems for this purpose, and it has even been done on TechTV. Search around.

,#401 - 3.0 only - This sets up the Tivo to use ethernet for the daily calls. On Series 1 boxes, this means TivoNet or TurboNet. On Series 2, this means a USB->Ethernet dongle. Not all dongles will work, do a search for more info.

9. Sorting the Now Playing List (3.0)
In Now Playing, Enter:
(S)low (0)Zero (R)ecord (T)humbsUp

Press enter to switch sorting options.

short cut keys are
1 for normal
2 for experation date
3 for alphabetical

10. Shortcuts
Backdoor mode not required, listed here for completeness.

TiVo 0 - Plays the TiVo guy boot movie
TiVo 1 - Goes to the Now Playing list. (in 2.5, goes to the Season Pass Manager)
TiVo 2 - Goes to the To Do list.
TiVo 3 - Goes to Wishlists (in 2.x+)
TiVo 4 - Goes to the "Browse By Name" screen.
TiVo 5 - Goes to the "Browse By Channel" screen in 1.3, and to "LiveTV" in 2.0. No, nobody knows why they changed it. They changed it back to "Browse by Channel" for 2.5 though.
TiVo 6 - Goes to the "Browse By Time" screen.
TiVo 7 - Goes to the "Record Time/Channel" screen (manual record).
TiVo 8 - Goes to the "TiVo's Suggestions" screen.
TiVo 9 - Goes to the "Network Showcases" screen.
TiVo TiVo - Goes to the Now Playing List (in 2.x+)
TiVo Slow (4.0 only) - Goes to "Messages and Setup"

11. Outdated Codes

Teach Tivo (2.0 only)
To activate Teach Tivo, turn on Backdoors, then go to the suggestions list. Special codes here:

1,2, or 3 - Goes directly to different sections in Teach Tivo.
4 - Turns on the "Teach Tivo" menu item in the suggestions list. This won't be immediately visible until the list rebuilds or you change the list in some way (thumb down a program and move the cursor will do it).

DirecTivo trick (2.0 only?)
When it's "Acquiring Satellite Data", you can press thumbs up to get a couple of lines of status messages at the bottom of the screen. I'm not sure what most of them mean, but TX: shows the transponder it's looking at. This can be done whenever it's acquiring, as far as I can tell. No backdoor code required.

12. 4.0 Codes
While the backdoor code for 4.0 has not been found, it's possible to enable the codes if you want to take the drive out and change the hash in MFS (ResourceItem 176 of the second ResourceGroup). I recommend searching around on how to do this if you don't know how. Frankly, if you don't know how, you probably shouldn't even try, as you can break things really badly if you're not careful.

But, if you do it, and thus get the backdoors working, here's some 4.0 only codes:

Disk Usage Space
Go to Pick Programs to Record and press ZERO-THUMBSUP. You'll get a screen detailing disk space used, in both megabytes, percentages, and hours in Basic mode. However, the math used on the screen is some of that "new math" appearantly, as the numbers simply don't add up. Take the numbers with a grain of salt, in other words.

Home Media Option Info
Go to Now Playing and press ZERO-THUMBSDOWN. You'll get a screen that tells you about the Home Media Options activated on your machine. It also shows the various boxes on your network, and you can select them to get different additional info about them.

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Old 07-13-2003, 01:22 PM   #2
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e-e code problem

I have a HDR112 with 3.0 software upgraded to 145hrs. I want to change the scan speeds, especially speed1. I follow the below listed instructions and everythging looks as if it went right, however, the scan speeds don't change when I go to use them. Can someone please help me figure this out.

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4. Enter-Enter codes
E-E stands for "Enter Enter". The following codes must be entered in the "Search by Title"screen. These codes are generally used to set values on the Tivo. You enter the code, and the prompt will appear, along with the red recording light coming on. You then enter the value. You then enter the code again to set the value in, and the recording light will go off. It doesn't actually stop recording if you happen to be recording something, however. Entering invalid values (non-numeric) will cause your Tivo to reboot, so be careful.

E-E-1 - Gives you Speed1: prompt. Turns the record LED on (indicating the backdoor is open and can be changed?). Enter a number for how fast you want the first scan speed to run at, and then press E-E-1 again. The record LED will go out.

The last two digits of the number must be 00 for an integer multiple speed. The digits to the left of the 00 indicate how many times normal playing speed the scan is running. 300 (which is 3x) is the default Speed1 scan speed, but you can't see that, you can only enter a number. A value of "1" is super slow motion (.01x speed) Unit will revert back to default speed when rebooted.

Does not appear to work in 2.0, although the prompt is still there.
E-E-2 - Gives you Speed2: prompt. Default is 2000. See Speed1 above. Does not appear to work in 2.0, although the prompt is still there.

E-E-3 - Gives you Speed3: prompt. Default is 6000. See Speed1 above. Does not appear to work in 2.0, although the prompt is still there.
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Re: New Almost Complete TiVo Codes List

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This list was borrowed from a more recent list posted by Otto over at dbsforums.com
Are you going to incorporate the updates from the old thread? For example, I posted a method to (reliably) delete scheduled suggestions, which the Codes List indicates is problematical.
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I don't have time to read that entire thread looking for updates. However if you want to PM me your updates I'll add them to this list.

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I have a HDR112 with 3.0 software upgraded to 145hrs. I want to change the scan speeds, especially speed1. I follow the below listed instructions and everythging looks as if it went right, however, the scan speeds don't change when I go to use them. Can someone please help me figure this out.
"Does not appear to work in 2.0, although the prompt is still there."

That was posted after 2.0 was released. The speed prompts have not worked properly in any version since.

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Question Enabling Backdoor Mode for Directivo 3.1

Hi,

I have a Hughes Directivo that's running software version 3.1.0-01-1-031.
How do I enable backdoor mode, i.e. what's the code that must be entered? I tried B M U S 1, 3 0 BC, 3 1 BC and they don't work.

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I don't have time to read that entire thread looking for updates. However if you want to PM me your updates I'll add them to this list.
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Why not just a post a link to Otto's post at dbsforums, since I would assume he is going to keep that updated. It would be more updated, and save you the effort.
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Ok... I'm a little confused... the chart indicates that C-E-C-Thumbs Up will allows oyu to access the Tivo Logs on a SA v4.0.x Tivo2.

However, I'm not able to get it to work..

Anyone have any thoughts on what screen I should be in to get this to work?

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C-E-C codes require backdoors be enabled. It is the S-P-S codes that do not.
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OK, how do you enable the back door on a
TIVO2 80hr unit? I would like to know, also.
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Old 07-28-2003, 08:54 PM   #13
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I'd really like to know why some of the documenation indicates the certain codes (C-E-C) work on the Tivo SA v4?

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This has been answered several times

I don't have the time/energy to search for it for you now, but it's been described in this forum several times how to change the backdoor code for TiVos running 3.1/3.2/4.0 by taking out the drive and modifying the disk directly.

Search for it and you can find a description for free, (or you could always pay someone to describe it for you again in extreme detail if you really wanted).. It's all there..
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I'd really like to know why some of the documenation indicates the certain codes (C-E-C) work on the Tivo SA v4?
I see only one C-E-C so listed. Where do you see more? And I see nothing saying backdoors aren't required for C-E-C codes.

It is possible to know what codes work with backdoors enabled in 4.0 without knowing the backdoor enabling code (by changing the code to a known code as jkeegan cited).
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(or you could always pay someone to describe it for you again in extreme detail if you really wanted).. It's all there..
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I see only one C-E-C so listed. Where do you see more? And I see nothing saying backdoors aren't required for C-E-C codes.

It is possible to know what codes work with backdoors enabled in 4.0 without knowing the backdoor enabling code (by changing the code to a known code as jkeegan cited).
Listen,

You seem to assume that everyone knows WHAT to search for. It was not readily apperant that I'd have to hack the hard drive to enable the sole C-E-C code for a Tivo2 sa v4.

When you search you get plenty of information on the Tivo back door codes from PRIOR sa versions. ...not sa v4.

So... thanks for the information. (I'll be nice and not complete the rest of what I'm thinking.)
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Why? It's been a month. Get over it.
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Why? It's been a month. Get over it.
Missed the original post...

I'll get over when I get over it.

It's somewhat annoying when someone gives you a hard time when searching just doesn't always help. You have to know something about what you are looking for....
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Gerhard,

I agree with you. When trying to figure out whether I wanted DirecTiVo or not, I searched online for a couple of weeks, then I asked specific questions, then I did more searching. Then asked more questions.

Usually a question from a newbie results in partial answers, since not everyone wants to answer the same questions that newbies ask over and over again, and believe me, many of those aren't covered in FAQs, either.

As far as searching, I've spent the last hour looking for an answer to finding out how much hard drive space is left on an HDVR2. It could have been answered in 30 seconds (and may still) by probably anybody that has been a member for over a couple of months and reads everything here, but instead I get an oblique reply that doesn't help except bump up the message count of the poster. On the other hand, I didn't really ask how to, merely mentioned it, so I expected to find it myself anyway.

These forums are great, but they can eat up hours and hours of time just learning the what everyone considers the basics. But what is basic to one may not be the same basics to another.
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It seems I was not understood.

It is not that it is generally known by veterans what codes work with backdoors and what don't, it is that because of methods that get around the need to know the correct backdoor that we know some codes work on 4.0 with backdoors enabled. There's a hack to change the backdoor code on 4.0 to a known string. Those who have applied this hack have determined what codes work with backdoors enabled in 4.0.

So, the backdoor code for 4.0 is unknown, but if it were known, we know what it would enable.

The rest was that you, Gerhard, were reading into the code list information that wasn't there. Particularly that "certain codes" (note the plural) of the C-E-C group were marked as working on 4.0 when only one such code was so marked on the page you yourself cited.
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Now that is a very good explanation. Thank you for the illumination!
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Old 09-04-2003, 01:06 PM   #24
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It's just a thought, but considering the amount of 4.0 backdoor-related traffic it might be beneficial to explicitly list codes known to fork for 4.0+ units.

The current list of codes is poorly organized in that respect.
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Exclamation Is the clock code information accurate?

This information from the E-E-Tivo Code (setting clock) may no longer be accurate:

"The best way to fix a messed up clock without reloading all the Guide data is to do the "Make a Test Call" option."

Robert S wrote in this thread "I believe that test calls do not set the clock, although they used to."

Can anyone verify that the "Make Test Call" option actually sets the clock? If not, then the code may actually be more useful than the list suggests since E-E-Tivo does let you adjust the clock "without reloading Guide data". Also, an alternative that could be substituted into the codes list is to use the "Make Daily Call Now" option which does download guide data as well as set the clock.

For further details, see this thread (same thread link as one above):

Does "Make Test Call" actually adjust the clock?
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How do you figure these backdoor codes out? Do you reverse engineer it or is there a leak at the TiVo factory?
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Old 09-19-2003, 05:02 PM   #27
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I just got my TiVo today, after my old UltimateTV broke (I only paid $30 for the UTV, so I saved a bunch on a replacement of a TiVo ).

I think the software version is 3.1. Is there any way to turn on the backdoor thing for it? Also, I tried a bunch of those other things (CEC, EE, etc.) and I couldn't get them to work either.
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It seems I was not understood.

It is not that it is generally known by veterans what codes work with backdoors and what don't, it is that because of methods that get around the need to know the correct backdoor that we know some codes work on 4.0 with backdoors enabled. There's a hack to change the backdoor code on 4.0 to a known string. Those who have applied this hack have determined what codes work with backdoors enabled in 4.0.

So, the backdoor code for 4.0 is unknown, but if it were known, we know what it would enable.

The rest was that you, Gerhard, were reading into the code list information that wasn't there. Particularly that "certain codes" (note the plural) of the C-E-C group were marked as working on 4.0 when only one such code was so marked on the page you yourself cited.
Thank you sir! That makes perfect sense.

Certainly a clear and well formualted answer.

I'm starting to think that Tivo wants to prevent back door codes from being found for the v4.x as it includes now the multimedia features.

They would have a vested interest in prevent them from being turned on... Unless they are tightly controlling the software...
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Theoretically, there might not be a backdoor code for the unsolved versions. It may have been that once the versions left testing they changed the hash to either something that doesn't backsolve to anything useful, or is such a long string that it becomes virtually impossible to read. (Afterall, if we've got to brute force hack a key out of our TiVos, wouldn't it be more valuable to hack the key by which they scrable the video?)

So, it may just be that the only way into backdoor mode now is to hack into your TiVo to the point that you can replace the hash that backdoors are compared about to one that you know the matching key to. Maybe TiVo is trying to get us to put more research into USB-networking capablities for them?
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I'm starting to think that Tivo wants to prevent back door codes from being found for the v4.x as it includes now the multimedia features.

They would have a vested interest in prevent them from being turned on... Unless they are tightly controlling the software...
If that were the case, I wish they would at least toss in a semi-backdoors mode to let us do some of the tricks from previous versions. I miss seeing what suggestions it plans to record, the more detailed Status screen, etc.
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