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Old 07-28-2014, 12:23 AM   #1
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The Last Ship "Lockdown" (7/27/14) SPOILERS!

Well, I expect we'll see more episodes like this one as the season rolls on. More internal drama and conflict as opposed to the action/adventure bent of "El Toro."

It seems that Quincy has pissed off the Commander and lost his ice cream privileges.

I know it was corny but I did like the bit at the end with the crew members re-enlisting. It reminded me a little of that great scene in The Alamo (1960), when most of the men are ready to ride out in retreat and Col. Travis salutes their bravery and honor. Of course, they all have a change of heart, dismount and stand behind him to face their fate together.
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:43 PM   #2
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I'm not sure what Quincy thought he was doing. He must know the ship is his best hope for survival.
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:51 PM   #3
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I'm not sure what Quincy thought he was doing. He must know the ship is his best hope for survival.
It's funny...he DID have a decent plan. The ship is a prison for him, and he realizes it always will be (even when the doc needed help, he wasn't allowed out of his cell to provide it).

What's funny is until the part where we found out he was manipulating everybody else to get himself off the ship, I thought the same as you did. On a show where people routinely do stupid, senseless things to forward the plot, it didn't occur to me that there might be a method to his seeming madness.

I've also detected what may be a foolproof way to determine future plot developments. When the captain makes a difficult decision, he will turn out to be wrong. And then he will explain to everybody that he made the wrong decision, and how much he has learned from his mistake. Until the next time he has to make a difficult decision, that is.

Definitely a summer show...if this were on during the on-season where there's tons of competition, it would have been deleted from my SPs weeks ago.
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:09 PM   #4
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I don't get where the ones who wanted to leave were going to go. Wouldn't it be way more dangerous to try to establish a colony somewhere and take the risk of being overrun by sick people--or just people with more guns than you?
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:19 PM   #5
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Yeah, and those rigid inflatable boats with no protection from the sun aren't really the best choice for the open ocean. It would have made more sense to insist they be dropped off in an isolated area with natural resources and no infected.
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I don't get where the ones who wanted to leave were going to go. Wouldn't it be way more dangerous to try to establish a colony somewhere and take the risk of being overrun by sick people--or just people with more guns than you?
i was thinking an uninhabited island would limit contact, but it would come with its own challenges.
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:31 AM   #7
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I don't get where the ones who wanted to leave were going to go. Wouldn't it be way more dangerous to try to establish a colony somewhere and take the risk of being overrun by sick people--or just people with more guns than you?
I got the feeling that perhaps those crew members didn't get the full scope of what was actually happening out there. My thought was they were going to try and go home and find their loved ones. I think that's why the Captain decided to play the broadcasts from the radio room of people asking for help. So they understand that the world is a mess, and that they are the ones who could save the world. Which is why they all reenlisted.
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This was a terrible filler episode.
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This was a terrible filler episode.
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I can't think of one notable thing that happened in this one. It's basically a "we're still working on the vaccine" episode.

Can someone who is familiar with vaccines answer a simple question for me -- when I go get my flu vaccine they tell me it will be a couple of weeks before I'm protected against the flu, yet in this episode they seemed to expose the monkeys to live virus just hours after vaccinating them. Simple television suspension of disbelief, or is there a fast means to test vaccine candidates?
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Old 08-01-2014, 12:50 PM   #10
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Well, the rabies vaccine can be given after a bite so it varies by disease.
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Yes, it does depend on the virus.

[foggy memory here]
Prophylactic vaccines need time for the body to build up enough immunity (to develop antibodies that recognize the virus) to handle future exposure. How much time depends on how quick acting the virus is.

Therapeutic vaccines (after exposure) give your body's immune system a kick in the pants to build up enough antibodies on antigens that aren't trying to kill it to fight the real virus.

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Old 08-02-2014, 12:21 PM   #12
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I wonder whether the size of the body (and therefore the size of the immune system) is a factor, as well - would a small monkey build up the immunity faster than a large human?
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I recall some early vaccines (rabies?) used horses.

I think in this case they would want a species that is more susceptible to the virus than humans with a shorter incubation time, more obvious symptoms, etc., so it takes less time to test each version of the vaccine.
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