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Old 05-09-2014, 10:33 PM   #241
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This is lame of them to insert ads.
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:29 AM   #242
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Can someone point me to instructions on how to use the quick clear code? I seem to just end up triggering and selecting the ads rather than deleting them. Thanks
The SPSPS code is one of the trickiest codes to enter. You need to find a program in the My Shows list that has a star ad when you pause. If the program you are trying to use doesn't have a star ad, the code will likely not take.
If you still have trouble, go into Showcases and see if there is a video ad there. If there is, play it and then enter the code. This is the most surefire way to enter the code and have it take.
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:38 AM   #243
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what? it [the status bar] stays on for a good 5-10 seconds if you hit play.
Nope. I thought the same thing a while back and was quickly corrected.
The Roamios do not behave the same as the earlier models in this regard.
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Old 05-10-2014, 10:38 AM   #244
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what? it stays on for a good 5-10 seconds if you hit play.
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Nope. I thought the same thing a while back and was quickly corrected.
The Roamios do not behave the same as the earlier models in this regard.
Just tried it right now on Roamio Pro and it stays up for about 3 seconds after selecting Play, which is still plenty of time to read it (I actually wish it would be shorter).
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Old 05-10-2014, 11:11 AM   #245
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The SPSPS code is one of the trickiest codes to enter. You need to find a program in the My Shows list that has a star ad when you pause. If the program you are trying to use doesn't have a star ad, the code will likely not take.
If you still have trouble, go into Showcases and see if there is a video ad there. If there is, play it and then enter the code. This is the most surefire way to enter the code and have it take.
Got it. Thanks
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:05 PM   #246
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These ads never really bothered me in the past, until lately. Every time I pause a show I see a popup for "Rosemary's Baby". I don't mind the ads for Bounty paper towels or Mother's Day flowers, which were innocuous, but I'm really starting to find the continual Rosemary's Baby ads offensive (and in poor taste, IMO).
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:52 PM   #247
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Nope. I thought the same thing a while back and was quickly corrected.
The Roamios do not behave the same as the earlier models in this regard.
Got it. I'm still on Premieres

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Just tried it right now on Roamio Pro and it stays up for about 3 seconds after selecting Play, which is still plenty of time to read it (I actually wish it would be shorter).
Thanks for checking. 3 seconds is plenty long enough to check position.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:54 PM   #248
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I think he's talking about over the long run, if you get lifetime vs perpetually paying monthly as is case with cable company, and I think he also factors in selling older units on eBay to recover some of the up front cost when upgrading to new models, etc. i.e. It CAN be cheaper over the long run, but that depends on several factors and won't apply to everyone. I always tell people that you shouldn't consider TiVo simply if your only goal is to save money, I say consider TiVo if you want a better experience than your cable company DVR can provide.
sure, but for the average user - aka my parents who didn't want to front $700 for a DVR all at once - it's the same cost a month.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:33 PM   #249
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We Find ALL TiVo Adds Unaccebtably Annoying

We lease our TiVo boxes from RCN and we pay RCN a premium for this service. Our RCN Premium Quad4 Tuning DVR did not show any adds. We upgrade to the TiVo service so we could play YouTube and NetFlix videos on our TV (It took several years for RCN to drop BluckBoster and provide NetFlix). Now that we got a new TV with an HDMI port we added ChromeCast. Since we already had and still have a NetFlix streaming account. We are going to vote with our Dollar$, we too are at the "Thin Mint Line". Since we have the option to downgrade back to a Quad4 Tuning DVR and after being with TiVo for 2+ years we are now seriously considering that either TiVo ditches ANY & ALL ADS or lose our revenue forever. Dropping the Premium TiVo service will save us money. Foolishly we thought we were paying a PREMIUM for NO ADS. The ball is in TiVo's court now and the clock is ticking...
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:00 PM   #250
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Dropping the Premium TiVo service will save us money.
Life is a compromise. And every decision contains trade-offs. I'll pay more for valet parking, but not have to walk a mile to get my car. Or pay $50/bag, and not have to schlep it on the plane. Or save money by not paying for cable, Internet, TVs or anything consumer electronic related. But forgo the pleasures they bring. Everything is a trade-off.

So... does the benefit of having a TiVo as your DVR outweigh the cost? If it doesn't, drop it.
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:59 AM   #251
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Any Ads on the Tivos are not going away. They have been there for many years so I see no reason why they would go away. At least they are unobtrusive. They have never been in my face or prevented me from doing anything on my TiVos. And I have also received coupons for products that my GF has used. And also if you consider the Discover Bar as advertising. Then I have found shows over the years from the Discovery bar that I would have otherwise not encountered.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:16 PM   #252
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unless you use the QCC, the ads are right in your face every time you pause.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:37 PM   #253
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And even with QCC (SPSPS) set which I use, the "keep or delete" prompt is affected by a second or two populating some stupid commercial as part of the dialog before it becomes functional, which I hardly consider unobtrusive.
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:18 AM   #254
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unless you use the QCC, the ads are right in your face every time you pause.
The entire screen could be an ad and over 95% of the time it wouldn't matter in my use. Since when I pause it is because I am doing something else and not looking at the tv.
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The entire screen could be an ad and over 95% of the time it wouldn't matter in my use. Since when I pause it is because I am doing something else and not looking at the tv.
I'm still looking at the screen when I pause, even for a brief moment. So yeah, the ad "matters." That's why they put it there.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:01 PM   #256
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Clearly everyone makes different use of their TVs. I pause for two main reasons. First is because I'm actively stopping my viewing for some period of time. Second is because I want to review some information on the screen more closely (sports scores, fine print, etc). I do the second tens to 100s of times per day. Sorta silly that Tivo made such a pretty thin bar at the bottom to then junk it up with the pause ads. Aesthetically the new thinner pause ads are not nearly as ugly as the old ones, but it is still jarring to so randomly have these appear.

From a premium product perspective, I find them offensive. They remind me of the free apps on my phone, and I hate ads on my phone apps, so I pay for ad-free version. Pretty sure I'd gladly pay for an ad-free version of tivo.

I realize they are not going away, and are actually becoming more prevalent. Since they're here to stay, I at least am happier that they are advertising TV shows, because that seems more germain to a dvr than offering me $1 off Bounty and Charmin for the 10,000 time.
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I don't see how they are more prevalent, how so? You are welcome to be offended, but it is what it is. Nothing new here, as described a million times in this thread.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:38 PM   #258
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The entire screen could be an ad and over 95% of the time it wouldn't matter in my use. Since when I pause it is because I am doing something else and not looking at the tv.
Half the time I pause, it's because I want to look at a still frame of the picture.
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I don't see how they are more prevalent, how so? You are welcome to be offended, but it is what it is. Nothing new here, as described a million times in this thread.
When they displayed offering coupons or product discounts, they were showing up maybe on 5 to 10% of the programs I was watching. For the 2 week period prior to mothers day, they were on 100% of every program I tuned to. Lately since they've begun ads for tv shows, I'd say they're on 30 to 40% of the programs I watch, which I consider more prevalent than the previous 5 to 10%. (and I wonder if the networks are going to intervene when the tivo shows an ad for a Showtime show on an HBO channel. I've seen many instances of ads for competing networks this past month)

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When they displayed offering coupons or product discounts, they were showing up maybe on 5 to 10% of the programs I was watching. For the 2 week period prior to mothers day, they were on 100% of every program I tuned to. Lately since they've begun ads for tv shows, I'd say they're on 30 to 40% of the programs I watch, which I consider more prevalent than the previous 5 to 10%. (and I wonder if the networks are going to intervene when the tivo shows an ad for a Showtime show on an HBO channel. I've seen many instances of ads for competing networks this past month)
I see, your context is very small. The frequency over time is similar to that which I have seen on a Premiere and a THD over 3 and 5 years previously.
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I see, your context is very small. The frequency over time is similar to that which I have seen on a Premiere and a THD over 3 and 5 years previously.
So tivo bounces from 5 to 10% up to 30 to 40% back to 5 to 10% and at holidays up to 100%? Guess I'll just have to deal with it as long as I keep their service.
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Half the time I pause, it's because I want to look at a still frame of the picture.
Less than 5% of the time for me. And even if an ad is is the way. I just need to hit down on the D-Pad and it will be gone for the rest of the recording.
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I much prefer a few pop-up ads here and there (that are easy to ignore / clear) than the alternative of a higher cost to the service.
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the "keep or delete" prompt is affected by a second or two populating some stupid commercial before it becomes functional
To avoid the ad, I've gotten into the habit of pressing Replay a few times when the "keep or delete" dialog pops up then Pause-Left-Clear to delete the program. This has become such a routine part of my "muscle memory" that the ads don't bother me -- because I don't see them!
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I much prefer a few pop-up ads here and there (that are easy to ignore / clear) than the alternative of a higher cost to the service.
And I'm saddened that it's presented as an either-or choice that we essentially have no say in. TiVo *could* choose to make less money and protect the overall user experience, in order to earn a better reputation for having a superior product, which could (ostensibly) eventually increase their number of subscribers...

But obviously that ship has sailed. Seems to me like TiVo's grasping at straws and doing whatever they can to make an easy buck any way they can slice it.
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They should lower the fees if they decide to show ads!!
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I doubt TiVo cares and I doubt they're even reading here. Yet we vent and commiserate because it makes us feel better. Don't like it? No ones forcing you to read it.
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Sure, especially Tivo. If they cared what we think they would've never started them in the first place, or they would've offered a higher-priced set of plans that were ad-free. Along with the ability to get rid of the worthless Discovery Bar, natch.
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Indeed. One of TiVo's biggest blunders ever was introducing a Discovery Bar that relied on an internet connection for refreshed ad content. And with a intermittent or broken internet connection, the DVR's entire UI was slow and/or non-functional. WTF were they thinking? Usually when people's internet goes down at home, the first distraction they turn to is the TV.
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